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Contents
  1. Torsion Conjecture for Abelian Varieties of Dimension at Least Two
  2. Definitions and mathematical statement
  3. Short English statement
  4. Research attempt
  5. Current frontier.
  6. Attack route.
  7. Attempt: a multi-place divisibility certificate.
  8. A small-prime escape construction.
  9. Two transfers with different costs.
  10. Stress test.
  11. Outcome.
  12. Sources

Torsion Conjecture for Abelian Varieties of Dimension at Least Two

Definitions and mathematical statement

For an abelian variety $A/K$, its rational torsion subgroup is \[ A(K)_{\rm tors}=\{P\in A(K):mP=0\text{ for some integer }m\ge1\}. \] For each fixed number field $K$ and dimension $g\ge2$, the conjecture asks for a finite $B(g,K)$ with $\#A(K)_{\rm tors}\le B(g,K)$ for every $g$-dimensional $A/K$. The bound cannot depend on height, endomorphism ring, polarization, or reduction type. It need not be effective, and uniformity over all fields of a fixed degree is not appended.

Formulation and concept references: [S1].

Short English statement

Is rational torsion uniformly bounded across all abelian varieties of a fixed dimension over a fixed number field?

Research attempt

Current frontier.
The number-field and function-field claims of the supplied 2026 manuscript must be separated. Its Theorem 1.3 concerns characteristic-zero function fields with a trace condition; Theorem 1.8 retains reduction/height quantities, and Theorem 1.9 assumes its generalized Szpiro Conjecture 1.7 for the number-field conclusion in the semistable case. None is an unconditional proof for all $A/K$. These are the manuscript's stated results, not an independent verification of its proofs. [S1] A 2026 geometric approach to $\ell$-primary torsion concerns fibres of an abelian scheme over a curve, not all primes and all varieties at once. [E2]
Attack route.
Combine several good reductions while retaining prime-primary information. Uniformly small good places would yield a bound without height estimates. We derive an exact certificate and then disprove that proposed place-selection lemma. Two alternatives are to pass to a principally polarized variety or through an isogeny; their costs are different and must be tracked.
Attempt: a multi-place divisibility certificate.
Let $T=A(K)_{\rm tors}$ and let $V$ be a finite set of good places with at least two distinct residue characteristics. Write $p_v=\operatorname{char}k_v$, $q_v=\#k_v$ and $a_v=\#A(k_v)$. Then \begin{equation}\label{wsref-0-33-30-30-30-36-37-34-38-3a-63-65-72-74-69-66-69-63-61-74-65} |T|\mid D_V:=\prod_{\ell\ {\rm prime}} \ell^{\min_{v\in V,\ p_v\ne\ell}v_\ell(a_v)}. \end{equation} Each minimum is nonempty, and only finitely many exponents are nonzero. At a good place the reduction kernel is a formal group with additive residue-field successive quotients, so it has no prime-to-$p_v$ torsion. Thus $T[\ell^\infty]$ injects into $A(k_v)$ if $\ell\ne p_v$; taking valuations proves the formula. The local and finite-field ingredients are reviewed in Clark--Xarles, Sections 3.1--3.2. [E1]

For two places of characteristics $p\ne q$, with point counts $a,b$, \begin{equation}\label{wsref-0-33-30-30-30-36-37-34-38-3a-74-77-6f} D_{v,w}=\gcd(a,b)\, p^{\max(0,v_p(b)-v_p(a))}\, q^{\max(0,v_q(a)-v_q(b))}. \end{equation} In particular \[ |T|\le ab\le\left((1+\sqrt{q_v})(1+\sqrt{q_w})\right)^{2g}. \] The last step is the Weil point bound at good reduction, not a bound on a bad special fibre. [E1] The residue-characteristic corrections in (30006748:two) cannot simply be dropped by taking a greatest common divisor. For $E:y^2=x(x-1)(x-2)$ and $A=E^g$, the companion program computes odd-prime point counts, applies the certificate, and checks divisibility by $4^g$ from the visible rational two-torsion subgroup. It is an exact finite certificate computation, not an assertion of exact torsion for every input.

A small-prime escape construction.
The proposed uniform lemma "two good places of different characteristics have norm at most $Q(g,K)$" fails already over ${\mathbb{Q}}$. Given $B\ge3$, take \[ t=2\prod_{\substack{3\le p\le B\\p\ {\rm prime}}}p, \qquad E_t:y^2=x(x-1)(x-t). \] Its invariants are \[ c_4=16(t^2-t+1),\qquad \Delta=16t^2(t-1)^2. \] For every odd $p\le B$, $v_p(c_4)=0$ and $v_p(\Delta)>0$. The nonintegral $j=c_4^3/\Delta$ excludes good reduction. The integral equation is minimal there since a nonminimal scaling would require $v_p(c_4)\ge4$; its reduction is nodal. Thus $E_t^g$ has bad reduction at every such prime, also evident from its nontrivial direct-sum inertia action. Even if $2$ were good, it would not supply two different small residue characteristics. No large rational torsion is asserted for these examples.

There is a local obstruction to weakening good reduction to semistability. For a Tate curve over ${\mathbb{Q}}_p$ with parameter $q=p^m$, uniformization gives $E_q({\mathbb{Q}}_p)={\mathbb{Q}}_p^\times/q^{{\mathbb{Z}}}$. The point represented by $p$ has order exactly $m$, because $p^r\in p^{m{\mathbb{Z}}}$ precisely when $m\mid r$. Arbitrary semistable curves over a fixed local field therefore have no uniform torsion bound. The split-multiplicative distinction is essential in the local results. [E1] These are local points, not rational points over a fixed number field, and do not contradict the catalogue target.

Two transfers with different costs.
Zarhin's construction $Z(A)=(A\times A^\vee)^4$ has dimension $8g$ and a principal polarization over $K$; the line-bundle construction is in the source's Appendix B. [S1] Since $A$ embeds as a factor over $K$, a uniform bound for principally polarized varieties in dimension $8g$ would imply the target in dimension $g$, without a degree-of-polarization loss. That change of dimension is allowed by the quantifiers.

In contrast, for a $K$-isogeny $\varphi:A\to B$ of degree $d$, \[ |A(K)_{\rm tors}|\le d\,|B(K)_{\rm tors}|. \] The kernel has at most $d$ rational points and the image of torsion is torsion. Decomposition up to isogeny into elliptic factors is therefore not a uniform argument unless the isogeny degree is controlled. The factor embedding in Zarhin's construction avoids this particular loss.

Stress test.
The certificate handles all primary parts; it does not assume injectivity on the residue-characteristic primary subgroup. Taking more places gives curve-dependent improvements but no uniform theorem without a uniform selection mechanism. The Legendre and Tate examples disprove two specific local shortcuts, not the global assertion. Bounds for each fixed $\ell$ would still require a uniform exclusion of sufficiently large torsion primes before they could bound the whole torsion group. No such exclusion has been obtained.
Outcome.
Outcome: Exploratory approach with unresolved gap. The attempt proves an exact finite-reduction certificate and explains a polarization-independent transfer, together with explicit failures of two local strategies. These elementary deductions are not claimed to be new in the literature. A genuinely global uniform constraint remains necessary when all small places have bad reduction; the conjectural height/reduction estimates in the source are not proved here.

Sources