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  1. Subgraph of large average degree and large girth.
  2. Definitions and mathematical statement
  3. Short English statement
  4. Research attempt: alteration with a controlled maximum degree
  5. Scope, context, and attack.
  6. 1. Small girth requirements.
  7. 2. An explicit bound for graphs with bounded degree ratio.
  8. Verification and obstruction to removing the hypothesis.
  9. Final status
  10. Sources

Subgraph of large average degree and large girth.

Definitions and mathematical statement

For a nonempty finite simple graph $G=(V,E)$, its average degree is $\overline d(G)=2|E|/|V|$. Its girth is the minimum length of a simple cycle; set the girth to $+\infty$ when the graph is a forest. A subgraph may be obtained by deleting vertices and edges, so it need not be induced or spanning.

The conjecture has the following quantifier order: \[ \forall g,k\in\mathbb Z_{\geq1}\quad \exists d=d(g,k)\in\mathbb Z_{\geq1}\quad \forall G\quad \overline d(G)\geq d\Longrightarrow \exists H\subseteq G: \overline d(H)\geq k,\quad\operatorname{girth}(H)>g. \] Here $G$ and the selected $H$ are nonempty finite simple graphs. The threshold is independent of the order and maximum degree of $G$. The conclusion means that $H$ contains no cycle with at most $g$ edges while retaining the prescribed average degree.

No regularity assumption is imposed on $G$. In particular, its large average degree may coexist with widely varying vertex degrees. One may discard edges of short cycles and choose a smaller vertex set, but both resulting conditions must hold in the same subgraph. The statement demands an existence threshold for each pair $(g,k)$; it does not prescribe a numerical formula or a polynomial bound for $d(g,k)$. A counterexample would fix some pair $(g,k)$ and produce graphs of unbounded average degree with no suitable subgraph.

Short English statement

Does sufficiently large average degree force a subgraph with any prescribed average degree and no short cycles?

Research attempt: alteration with a controlled maximum degree

Scope, context, and attack.
GPT-6 Astra Ultra, 1 October 2026. The threshold must depend only on $g,k$, not on the size or maximum degree of the input. The primary paper [S3] identifies this as Thomassen's conjecture and develops the $C_4$-free case. The elementary sampling argument already outlined in [S3] is recovered below with explicit constants. It proves an arbitrary-girth statement under the additional hypothesis that maximum degree is at most $K$ times average degree, for a fixed $K$. It is not a new resolution of the unrestricted conjecture. The strategy is independent edge sampling followed by deleting one edge from each surviving short cycle.
1. Small girth requirements.
For $g\le2$, simplicity already excludes cycles of length at most $g$, so $H=G$ works when the average degree is at least $k$. For $g=3$, a random bipartition places each edge across the partition with probability $1/2$. Some bipartite spanning subgraph therefore retains at least half the edges, has average degree at least $\overline d(G)/2$, and has no triangle. Thus $d(3,k)=2k$ is sufficient. This argument controls triangles without any maximum-degree assumption. The difficulty begins when one must eliminate even short cycles as well.
2. An explicit bound for graphs with bounded degree ratio.
Let $n=|V(G)|$, $d=\overline d(G)$, and $\Delta=\Delta(G)$, and assume $d\ge1$ and $\Delta\le Kd$, where $K\ge1$ is fixed. Fix $g\ge3$ and retain each edge independently with probability \[ p=\tfrac12\Delta^{-1+1/g}. \] There are at most $n\Delta^{\ell-1}/(2\ell)$ simple $\ell$-cycles: choose a starting vertex and the next $\ell-1$ vertices of an oriented walk, then require its last vertex to be adjacent to the first; each actual cycle is counted $2\ell$ times. If $Z$ counts surviving cycles of lengths $3,\ldots,g$, linearity of expectation gives \[ \mathbb E Z\le n\sum_{\ell=3}^g \frac{2^{-\ell}}{2\ell}\Delta^{\ell/g-1} \le \frac n6\sum_{\ell=3}^{\infty}2^{-\ell}=\frac n{24}. \] The expected number $M$ of sampled edges satisfies \[ \mathbb E M=\frac{npd}{2} \ge\frac{n\Delta^{1/g}}{4K}. \] Choose an outcome with $M-Z\ge\mathbb E(M-Z)$. List its short cycles and remove one edge from each cycle still present when it is processed. At most $Z$ edges are removed. Edge deletion creates no new cycle, so the resulting spanning subgraph $H$ has girth greater than $g$ and \[ \overline d(H)\ge\frac{\Delta^{1/g}}{2K}-\frac1{12}. \] In particular, $d\ge(2K(k+1))^g$ suffices, since $\Delta\ge d$. Isolated vertices may be retained in this calculation; deleting them can only increase average degree. For regular graphs this gives the explicit sufficient threshold $(2(k+1))^g$.
Verification and obstruction to removing the hypothesis.
The cycle count is an upper bound even when most walks are not cycles; independence is used only for the probability $p^\ell$ that all edges of one fixed cycle survive. No independence between different cycle events is asserted. Choosing an outcome by the expectation of $M-Z$ also avoids incorrectly optimizing the two quantities separately.

The bound contains $K$ essentially in this proof. In $K_{t,t^2}$, $\Delta=t^2$ and $d=2t^2/(t+1)$, so $\Delta/d=(t+1)/2$ is unbounded. These graphs are not counterexamples to the conjecture; they show that high average degree alone does not meet the extra input condition. A reduction extracting a sufficiently dense subgraph with a degree ratio bounded solely in terms of the desired parameters would close this particular gap, but no such reduction is established here.

Final status

UNRESOLVED. The triangle-free case and a quantitative bounded-degree-ratio case are proved. The unrestricted irregular case remains beyond this attempt. Completion estimate: no defensible global percentage.

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