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Erdős Problem 919 --- collection record
PROVENANCE AND STATUS
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Original attribution:gpt_pro_5.2. Original file: attacks/erdos/gpt_pro_5.2/919.tex.1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT
Let $\omega_2$ denote the first ordinal of cardinality $\aleph_2$. Let $\omega_2^2$ denote the ordinal product $\omega_2\cdot\omega_2$, which is order-isomorphic to $\omega_2\times\omega_2$ with the lexicographic order. A subset X of this well-ordered set has “lesser type” than $\omega_2^2$ if its induced order type is an ordinal <$\omega_2^2$.
Ambiguity: the problem statement speaks of “subgraph whose vertices have a lesser type”. We interpret this as: for every subset X$\subseteq$ $\omega_2^2$ with order type <$\omega_2^2$, the induced subgraph G[X] has $\chi(G[X])\le\aleph_0$.
Question (A): Does there exist a graph G with vertex set $\omega_2^2$ and $\chi(G)$=$\aleph_2$ such that for every X$\subseteq$ $\omega_2^2$ with order type <$\omega_2^2$ we have $\chi(G[X])\le$ $\aleph_0$?
Question (B): Same but requiring $\chi(G)$=$\aleph_1$.
2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
The problem statement records: - Babai: if G is a graph on a well-ordered vertex set with $\chi(G)\ge$ $\aleph_0$ then there is a subgraph on vertices of order type $\omega$ with chromatic number $\aleph_0$. - Erdős–Hajnal constructed a graph on $\omega_1^2$ with chromatic number $\aleph_1$ such that every strictly smaller subgraph has chromatic number $\le\aleph_0$, using the product-order comparability graph: vertices $\alpha,\beta$ and edges when ($\alpha_1$<$\alpha_2$ and $\beta_1$<$\beta_2$) (symmetrized). - A similar construction yields a graph on $\omega_2^2$ with chromatic number $\aleph_2$ such that every smaller subgraph has chromatic number $\le$ $\aleph_1$.
I do not use or assert any additional external results beyond what is stated in the problem file.
3) ATTACK PLAN
Proof-track (existence): - Try to strengthen the Erdős–Hajnal product-order construction to force countable chromatic number on all vertex sets of order type <$\omega_2^2$ (not just $\le\aleph_1$). - Attempt to build G by recursion along the well-order, ensuring each initial segment (hence each smaller-type set) stays countably colorable, while the whole graph becomes $\aleph_2$-chromatic.
Disproof-track (nonexistence): - Attempt to prove that if $\chi(G)$=$\aleph_2$ on $\omega_2^2$, then some smaller-type subset must already witness uncountable chromatic number, perhaps via a reflection/pressing-down argument on the lex order.
Best path here: I cannot complete either track. I therefore prove concrete properties of the Erdős–Hajnal comparability graph (since it is the natural candidate) and isolate the gap to reach $\le\aleph_0$ on all smaller types.
4) WORK
Definition (Erdős–Hajnal product-order graph). Fix an infinite cardinal $\kappa$ and consider vertex set V=$\kappa\times\kappa$. Define an undirected graph $H_\kappa$ on V by putting an edge between distinct vertices $\alpha_1,\beta_1$ and $\alpha_2,\beta_2$ iff either ($\alpha_1$<$\alpha_2$ and $\beta_1$<$\beta_2$) or ($\alpha_2$<$\alpha_1$ and $\beta_2$<$\beta_1$). Equivalently, there is an edge iff the two vertices are comparable in the strict product order on $\kappa\times\kappa$.
Lemma 919.1 (chromatic number of $H_\kappa$ equals $\kappa$). For every infinite cardinal $\kappa$, $\chi$$H_\kappa$=$\kappa$.
Proof. Upper bound: Color each vertex $\alpha,\beta$ by its first coordinate $\alpha$. If two vertices share the same first coordinate $\alpha$, then neither can have $\alpha_1$<$\alpha_2$, so they are not adjacent. Hence each color class is independent and this is a proper coloring using $\kappa$ colors. Thus $\chi$$H_\kappa$$\le$ $\kappa$.
Lower bound: Consider the diagonal set D:={$\alpha,\alpha$:$\alpha$<$\kappa$}. If $\alpha,\alpha$ and $\alpha',\alpha'$ are distinct, then either $\alpha$<$\alpha$' and also $\alpha$<$\alpha$', hence they are adjacent. So D induces a clique of size $\kappa$. Any proper coloring of a clique of size $\kappa$ uses at least $\kappa$ colors, hence $\chi$$H_\kappa$$\ge$ $\kappa$. Combining bounds gives $\chi$$H_\kappa$=$\kappa$. $\square$
Lemma 919.2 (countable-coordinate-bounded subgraphs are countably colorable). Let $\kappa$ be any cardinal and let S$\subseteq$ $\kappa\times\kappa$. If there exists a countable ordinal $\gamma$<$\omega_1$ such that S$\subseteq$ $\gamma\times\kappa$, then $\chi$$H_\kappa[S]$$\le$ $\aleph_0$. Similarly, if S$\subseteq$ $\kappa\times\gamma$ for some countable $\gamma$, then $\chi$$H_\kappa[S]$$\le$ $\aleph_0$.
Proof. Assume S$\subseteq$ $\gamma\times\kappa$ with $\gamma$ countable. Define c:S$\to\gamma$ by c$\alpha,\beta$=$\alpha$. As in Lemma 919.1, vertices with the same first coordinate are non-adjacent, so each fiber c^{-1}$\alpha$ is independent. Since $\gamma$ is countable, this gives a proper coloring using at most $\aleph_0$ colors. The second statement (bounding the second coordinate) is proved by coloring with the second coordinate. $\square$
FAST REALITY CHECK. A finite analogue of $H_\kappa$ on [m]$\times$[m] (m finite) has chromatic number exactly m: - The diagonal gives a clique of size m, so $\chi\ge$ m. - Coloring by the first coordinate uses m colors, so $\chi\le$ m. This matches Lemma 919.1 in the finite case.
5) VERIFICATION
- Lemma 919.1: Verified that “color by first coordinate” is valid because adjacency requires strict inequality in the first coordinate. - Lemma 919.2: Verified that the number of colors used is |$\gamma$|$\le\aleph_0$ and each color class is independent. - The lemmas do not address the key “lesser type” condition; they only show countable chromaticity for a restricted family of smaller-type sets (those bounded by a countable ordinal in one coordinate).
6) FINAL
UNRESOLVED (i) Strongest proved partial result: The natural candidate graph $H_{\omega_2}$ (product-order comparability graph on $\omega_2\times\omega_2$) has $\chi$$H_{\omega_2}$=$\aleph_2$ (Lemma 919.1). Moreover, any induced subgraph whose vertices lie in $\gamma\times\omega_2$ or $\omega_2\times\gamma$ for some countable $\gamma$ is countably colorable (Lemma 919.2). (ii) First gap (crisp): Show (or refute) that there exists a graph on $\omega_2^2$ with chromatic number $\aleph_2$ for which every subset of vertices of order type <$\omega_2^2$ induces a countably colorable subgraph. (iii) Top 3 next moves: 1. Analyze the Erdős–Hajnal construction more deeply: characterize which order types <$\omega_2^2$ already force uncountable chromatic number in $H_{\omega_2}$. This becomes a concrete test case for (A). 2. Attempt to build a graph by recursion along the lex order on $\omega_2^2$, explicitly maintaining countable colorings on all initial segments while diagonalizing against all $\aleph_0$-colorings globally. 3. Try to prove a reflection lemma: if $\chi(G)$=$\aleph_2$ on $\omega_2^2$ then there exists X of order type <$\omega_2^2$ with $\chi(G[X])\ge\aleph_1$. Identifying the first nontrivial case (e.g. order type $\omega_2\cdot\omega$) would already be progress. (iv) Minimal counterexample structure: A positive example for (A) would be a graph that is globally $\aleph_2$-chromatic on the well-order $\omega_2^2$ but whose chromatic number “collapses” to countable on every proper initial-type subset. Any disproof must show that some smaller-type subset necessarily inherits uncountable chromaticity.
COMPLETION ESTIMATE
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