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  1. Problem 766 (Round 2)
  2. 1) ROUND-2 OBJECTIVE
  3. 2) Round-1 FOUNDATION USED
  4. 3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND-2)
  5. 4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND-2)
  6. 5) WORK (ROUND-2)
  7. Lemma 5.1.
  8. Lemma 5.2.
  9. Theorem 5.3 (asymptotic bipartite reduction).
  10. Corollary 5.4.
  11. Theorem 5.5 (endpoint $l=\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$).
  12. What remains open after Round 2.
  13. 6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION
  14. 7) FINAL
  15. 8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE (MANDATORY)
  16. 9) REFERENCES
  17. 10) OUTPUT FORMAT

Problem 766 (Round 2)

1) ROUND-2 OBJECTIVE

I pursue (C) obstruction/correction. The exact function $f(n;k,l)$ is still open, but Round 1 left its most important heuristic unproved: that the minimiser should be bipartite. The best Round-2 step is therefore to turn this heuristic into a theorem, thereby reducing the problem asymptotically to a finite family of bipartite graphs and solving the endpoint case $l=\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$ exactly for large $n$.

2) Round-1 FOUNDATION USED

I use the following Round-1 facts.
  • For $a:=\min\{t: l\le t(k-t)\}$ one has \[ f(n;k,l)\le \mathrm{ex}(n;K_{a,k-a})=O\left(n^{2-1/a}\right). \]
  • Since $l\le \lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$, there exists at least one bipartite graph on $k$ vertices and $l$ edges.
Round 1 stated that one expects the minimiser to be bipartite; Round 2 proves that this is correct for all sufficiently large $n$.

3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND-2)

The new tool is the Erdős--Stone--Simonovits theorem. It implies that every fixed non-bipartite graph $H$ has \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;H)=\Theta(n^2). \] But Round 1 already supplied a bipartite $k$-vertex $l$-edge graph $B$ with \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;B)=O\left(n^{2-1/a}\right)=o(n^2). \] Therefore, for fixed $(k,l)$ in the range $k<l\le \lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$, every asymptotic minimiser for $f(n;k,l)$ must be bipartite.

This immediately yields an exact endpoint identification when $l=\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$: among bipartite graphs on $k$ vertices, the only graph with that many edges is the balanced complete bipartite graph $K_{\lfloor k/2\rfloor,\lceil k/2\rceil}$.

4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND-2)

The exact Round-1 gap was:
"The minimiser should be bipartite" was only heuristic.
I close that gap in three steps.
  1. Use Erdős--Stone--Simonovits to show every non-bipartite candidate has quadratic extremal number.
  2. Use the Round-1 Kővári--Sós--Turán upper bound to produce one bipartite candidate with subquadratic extremal number.
  3. Because there are only finitely many $k$-vertex $l$-edge graphs, conclude that for sufficiently large $n$ the minimum is attained inside the bipartite subfamily.
Then I treat the endpoint $l=\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$ by a direct uniqueness argument.

5) WORK (ROUND-2)

For fixed integers $k,l$ with $k<l\le \lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$, let \[ \mathcal G_{k,l}:=\{G: |V(G)|=k,\ |E(G)|=l\} \] and let $\mathcal B_{k,l}\subseteq \mathcal G_{k,l}$ be the bipartite members.
Lemma 5.1.
For every fixed non-bipartite graph $H$, \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;H)=\left(1-\frac{1}{\chi(H)-1}+o(1)\right)\frac{n^2}{2}. \] In particular, if $\chi(H)\ge 3$, then \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;H)=\Theta(n^2). \]

Justification. This is the Erdős--Stone--Simonovits theorem.

Lemma 5.2.
There exists $B\in \mathcal B_{k,l}$ such that \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;B)=o(n^2). \]

Proof. By the assumption $l\le \lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$, there exists a bipartite graph on $k$ vertices with $l$ edges. More concretely, by the Round-1 construction there is some $a\in\{1,\dots,\lfloor k/2\rfloor\}$ with $l\le a(k-a)$ and a graph $B\subseteq K_{a,k-a}$ having $k$ vertices and $l$ edges. Then \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;B)\le \mathrm{ex}(n;K_{a,k-a})=O\left(n^{2-1/a}\right)=o(n^2) \] by the Kővári--Sós--Turán theorem. $\square$

Theorem 5.3 (asymptotic bipartite reduction).
For every fixed $k,l$ with $k<l\le \lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$, there exists $N=N(k,l)$ such that for all $n\ge N$, \[ f(n;k,l)=\min\{\mathrm{ex}(n;B): B\in \mathcal B_{k,l}\}. \] In words: for sufficiently large $n$, the minimisation defining $f(n;k,l)$ may be restricted to bipartite graphs.

Proof. By definition, \[ f(n;k,l)=\min\{\mathrm{ex}(n;G): G\in \mathcal G_{k,l}\}. \] Let \[ M_B(n):=\min\{\mathrm{ex}(n;B): B\in \mathcal B_{k,l}\}. \] Clearly $f(n;k,l)\le M_B(n)$.

Now fix any non-bipartite graph $H\in \mathcal G_{k,l}\setminus \mathcal B_{k,l}$. By Lemma 5.1, \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;H)=\Theta(n^2). \] By Lemma 5.2, there exists some bipartite $B\in \mathcal B_{k,l}$ with \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;B)=o(n^2). \] Hence for each fixed non-bipartite $H$ there exists $N_H$ such that \[ \mathrm{ex}(n;B)<\mathrm{ex}(n;H)\qquad\text{for all }n\ge N_H. \] Since $\mathcal G_{k,l}\setminus \mathcal B_{k,l}$ is finite, taking \[ N:=\max_H N_H \] over all non-bipartite $H\in \mathcal G_{k,l}\setminus \mathcal B_{k,l}$ shows that for every $n\ge N$, every non-bipartite candidate has larger extremal number than some bipartite candidate. Therefore the minimum is attained within $\mathcal B_{k,l}$, i.e. \[ f(n;k,l)=M_B(n)=\min\{\mathrm{ex}(n;B): B\in \mathcal B_{k,l}\}. \] $\square$

Corollary 5.4.
For fixed $k,l$ in the stated range, \[ f(n;k,l)=o(n^2). \]

Proof. Immediate from Theorem 5.3 and Lemma 5.2. $\square$

Theorem 5.5 (endpoint $l=\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$).
For fixed $k$ and sufficiently large $n$, \[ f\left(n;k,\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor\right)=\mathrm{ex}\left(n;K_{\lfloor k/2\rfloor,\lceil k/2\rceil}\right). \]

Proof. By Theorem 5.3, for sufficiently large $n$ the minimum may be taken over bipartite graphs with $k$ vertices and $\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$ edges. But by Mantel's theorem, a bipartite graph on $k$ vertices has at most $\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$ edges, with equality only for the balanced complete bipartite graph \[ K_{\lfloor k/2\rfloor,\lceil k/2\rceil}. \] Therefore the bipartite family $\mathcal B_{k,\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor}$ consists of this single graph, and the displayed identity follows. $\square$

What remains open after Round 2.
The strict monotonicity question is now sharply reduced: for fixed $k$ and large $n$, it is entirely a question about comparing extremal numbers of finitely many bipartite graphs on $k$ vertices. In particular, no non-bipartite graph can be asymptotically extremal in the minimisation problem.

6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION

  • Does Theorem 5.3 hold for all $n$? No. The argument is asymptotic, since it compares $\Theta(n^2)$ with $o(n^2)$. So the conclusion is correctly stated only for sufficiently large $n$.
  • Could a non-bipartite graph have smaller extremal number than a bipartite one for small $n$? Yes, in principle. That is why the theorem includes the threshold $N(k,l)$.
  • Why is finiteness important? Because the set of $k$-vertex $l$-edge graphs is finite, one can take the maximum of the finitely many thresholds $N_H$.
  • Is the endpoint uniqueness claim correct? Yes. Among all bipartite graphs on $k$ vertices, the maximum possible number of edges is $\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$, attained uniquely by the balanced complete bipartite graph.
  • Did Round 2 solve monotonicity? No. It only localises the monotonicity problem to the finite bipartite family, which is a strict structural advance but not a full solution.

7) FINAL

UNRESOLVED (BUT STRICTLY ADVANCED). Round 2 proves the key structural correction that Round 1 only conjectured: for every fixed $k,l$ with $k<l\le \lfloor k^2/4\rfloor$, the minimiser in the definition of $f(n;k,l)$ is asymptotically bipartite. Moreover, \[ f\left(n;k,\lfloor k^2/4\rfloor\right)=\mathrm{ex}\left(n;K_{\lfloor k/2\rfloor,\lceil k/2\rceil}\right) \] for all sufficiently large $n$. This reduces the remaining difficulty to a finite comparison problem inside the bipartite regime.

8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE (MANDATORY)

COMPLETION: 35%

9) REFERENCES

  • Erdős Problem #766, statement and historical note (official problem page).
  • Erdős--Stone--Simonovits theorem.
  • Kővári--Sós--Turán theorem.
  • Mantel's theorem.

10) OUTPUT FORMAT

Here the Erdős problem number is $x=766$.