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Contents
  1. Erdős Problem #696
  2. FORMAL RESTATEMENT
  3. QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
  4. ATTACK PLAN
  5. WORK
  6. VERIFICATION
  7. FINAL

Erdős Problem #696

FORMAL RESTATEMENT

Let $n\in\mathbb{N}$ with $n\ge 1$.
  • Define $h(n)$ to be the maximum integer $\ell\ge 0$ for which there exist distinct primes \[p_1<p_2<\cdots<p_\ell\] such that $p_i\mid n$ for all $i$ and $p_{i+1}\equiv 1\pmod{p_i}$ for all $1\le i<\ell$. (If $n=1$, then $h(1)=0$.)
  • Define $H(n)$ to be the maximum integer $u\ge 1$ for which there exist integers \[1\le d_1<d_2<\cdots<d_u\] such that $d_i\mid n$ for all $i$ and $d_{i+1}\equiv 1\pmod{d_i}$ for all $1\le i<u$. (Note $1\mid n$, so $H(n)\ge 1$ always.)
Tasks:
  1. Give meaningful upper/lower bounds ("estimates") for $h(n)$ and $H(n)$ in terms of $n$ and standard arithmetic functions.
  2. Decide whether $H(n)/h(n)\to\infty$ for almost all $n$ (natural density $1$).

QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK

The problem statement in the source file says Erdős wrote that $h(n)\to\infty$ for almost all $n$ and believed the normal order is $\log_* n$ (iterated logarithm). The ErdosProblems forum threads summarize this context.(For example, the ErdosProblems discussion page for #696 and the related #695 thread.) I did not find (in a quick search) any claim that the full "$H(n)/h(n)\to\infty$ a.a.s." statement has been resolved as of late 2025.

ATTACK PLAN

  • Upper bounds: any chain forces rapid growth of the terms, and the terms must all divide $n$, yielding bounds in terms of $\log n$, $\omega(n)$ (distinct primes), and $\tau(n)$ (divisor count).
  • Lower bounds / constructions: if $\operatorname{lcm}(1,2,\dots,m)\mid n$ then the explicit chain $1,2,\dots,m$ gives $H(n)\ge m$.
  • "Almost all" questions: relate $H(n)$ to the largest $m$ with $\operatorname{lcm}(1,\dots,m)\mid n$, and relate $h(n)$ to prime factors in "Pratt-tree"-type congruence chains. I only pursue rigorous elementary bounds here.

WORK

Lemma 696.1 (basic monotonicity and trivial bounds). For all $n\ge 1$, \[0\le h(n)\le H(n),\qquad h(n)\le \omega(n),\qquad H(n)\le \tau(n),\] where $\omega(n)$ is the number of distinct prime factors of $n$ and $\tau(n)$ is the number of positive divisors of $n$.

Proof. A prime chain as in the definition of $h(n)$ is in particular a divisor chain (all primes are divisors), so $h(n)\le H(n)$. In such a chain the primes are distinct and divide $n$, so its length is at most the number of distinct prime divisors: $h(n)\le\omega(n)$. Finally, a divisor chain uses distinct positive divisors of $n$, hence has length at most $\tau(n)$. $\square$

Lemma 696.2 (a uniform upper bound on $h(n)$ from forced growth). Let $\ell\ge 2$ and let $p_1<p_2<\cdots<p_\ell$ be primes with $p_{i+1}\equiv 1\pmod{p_i}$ for all $i<\ell$. Then

  1. $p_2\ge 3$ and for every $i\ge 2$ one has $p_{i+1}\ge 2p_i+1>2p_i$.
  2. Consequently, for every $i\ge 2$ we have $p_i\ge 3\cdot 2^{i-2}$.
  3. Consequently, the product of the primes satisfies \[\prod_{i=1}^{\ell} p_i\ \ge\ 2\cdot 3^{\ell-1}\cdot 2^{(\ell-1)(\ell-2)/2}. \] In particular, if all these primes divide $n$ (hence their product divides $n$) then \[h(n)\le 3+\sqrt{2\log_2 n}. \]

    Proof. $1$ Since $p_1$ is prime, either $p_1=2$ or $p_1\ge 3$. In either case $p_2>p_1$ and $p_2\equiv 1\pmod{p_1}$, so $p_2\ge 3$. Now fix $i\ge 2$. Then $p_i\ge 3$ is odd. Writing $p_{i+1}=1+k p_i$ for some integer $k\ge 1$, the parity of $p_{i+1}$ is the parity of $1+k$ because $p_i$ is odd. For $p_{i+1}$ to be an odd prime, we must have $k$ even, hence $k\ge 2$. Therefore $p_{i+1}=1+k p_i\ge 1+2p_i$.

    $2$ From $1$, $p_2\ge 3$ and $p_{i+1}>2p_i$ for all $i\ge 2$. By induction, for $i\ge 2$, $p_i>2^{i-2}p_2\ge 3\cdot 2^{i-2}$.

    $3$ Multiply the bound in $2$ for $i=2,3,\dots,\ell$ and include $p_1\ge 2$: \[ \prod_{i=1}^{\ell}p_i\ge 2\cdot \prod_{i=2}^{\ell}\left(3\cdot 2^{i-2}\right) =2\cdot 3^{\ell-1}\cdot 2^{\sum_{i=2}^{\ell}(i-2)} =2\cdot 3^{\ell-1}\cdot 2^{(\ell-1)(\ell-2)/2}. \] If the chain primes all divide $n$, then the left-hand side divides $n$, so taking $\log_2$ and discarding the nonnegative $(\ell-1)\log_2 3$ term gives $\tfrac{(\ell-1)(\ell-2)}{2}\le \log_2 n$, hence $\ell\le 3+\sqrt{2\log_2 n}$. $\square$

    Lemma 696.3 (explicit lower bound for $H(n)$ via $\operatorname{lcm}(1,\dots,m)$). Let $m\ge 1$ and $n\ge 1$ be integers. If $\operatorname{lcm}(1,2,\dots,m)\mid n$, then $H(n)\ge m$.

    Proof. If $\operatorname{lcm}(1,\dots,m)\mid n$, then every integer $d\in\{1,2,\dots,m\}$ divides $n$. Consider the divisor chain \[d_1=1<d_2=2<\cdots<d_m=m. \] For each $1\le t<m$ we have $d_{t+1}=t+1\equiv 1\pmod{t}$ because $(t+1)-1=t$ is divisible by $t$. Hence this is a valid chain in the definition of $H(n)$ of length $m$, proving $H(n)\ge m$. $\square$

    FAST REALITY CHECK (computation). I brute-forced $h(n)$ and $H(n)$ for $2\le n\le 200$ by dynamic programming over prime divisors (for $h$) and over all divisors (for $H$). Results:

    • For every $2\le n\le 200$, one has $H(n)>h(n)$.
    • The maximum values observed on $2\le n\le 200$ were $\max h(n)=3$ (e.g. $n=42$ has chain $2,3,7$) and $\max H(n)=6$ (e.g. $n=60$ has chain $1,2,3,4,5,6$).
    • The largest observed ratio was $H(n)/h(n)=3$ (e.g. $n=180$ has $h(180)=2$ and $H(180)=6$).

    VERIFICATION

    • Lemma 696.2: the key parity step uses only that $p_i$ is odd for $i\ge 2$; checked separately that $p_2\ge 3$ always.
    • Lemma 696.3: checked that the congruence $t+1\equiv 1\pmod t$ holds for all $t\ge 1$ and that each $t\mid n$ follows from the $\operatorname{lcm}$ hypothesis.
    • Edge cases: $n=1$ gives $h(1)=0$ and $H(1)=1$ (only divisor is $1$), consistent with definitions.

    FINAL

    UNRESOLVED.
    1. (i) Strongest proved partial results here:
      • Uniform upper bound $h(n)\le 3+\sqrt{2\log_2 n}$ (Lemma 696.2).
      • Construction: if $\operatorname{lcm}(1,\dots,m)\mid n$ then $H(n)\ge m$ (Lemma 696.3), giving along the subsequence $n=\operatorname{lcm}(1,\dots,m)$ that $H(n)\ge m$ while $h(n)\ll \sqrt{\log n}$.
    2. (ii) First gap: prove any nontrivial normal-order lower bound for $H(n)$ or $h(n)$ beyond these elementary inequalities, strong enough to decide whether $H(n)/h(n)\to\infty$ for almost all $n$.
    3. (iii) Top 3 next moves:
      1. Relate $H(n)$ to $m(n):=\max\{m: \operatorname{lcm}(1,\dots,m)\mid n\}$ and estimate the normal order of $m(n)$.
      2. For $h(n)$, study the directed graph on prime divisors of $n$ with edges $p\to q$ if $q\equiv 1\pmod p$; attempt to show typical $n$ has a long directed path (e.g. of length $\gg \log_* n$).
      3. Computationally sample $h(n),H(n)$ for large random $n$ (say up to $10^{12}$) and track empirical growth rates and correlations with small prime power divisibility.
    4. (iv) Minimal counterexample structure (to $H(n)/h(n)\to\infty$ a.a.s.): one would need a positive-density set of $n$ with unusually small divisor-consecutive structure (small $m(n)$), but still with $h(n)$ not too small; i.e. integers missing long runs $1,2,\dots,m\mid n$ while still containing relatively long prime congruence chains.