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Contents
  1. Problem #653
  2. 1. ROUND-3 OBJECTIVE
  3. 2. Round-2 FOUNDATION USED
  4. 3. NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND 3)
  5. 4. ATTACK PLAN (ROUND 3)
  6. 5. WORK (ROUND 3)
  7. Lemma 1 (distance multiplicity on a circle).
  8. Theorem 2 (exact line/circle bound).
  9. Theorem 3 (stability with outliers).
  10. Corollary 4 (obstruction to asymptotic extremality).
  11. 6. ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION
  12. 7. FINAL
  13. 8. COMPLETION ESTIMATE
  14. 9. REFERENCES
  15. References

Problem #653

1. ROUND-3 OBJECTIVE

Path (C): obstruction / correction at the level of strategy.

I build strictly on the Round-2 progress, whose main new theorem was the exact collinear formula \[ g_{\mathrm{line}}(n)=\left\lceil\frac{n}{2}\right\rceil. \] The most promising next step is to show that this is not merely a one-line phenomenon: the same $\lceil n/2\rceil$ barrier persists for points on a single circle, and more generally for any configuration with all but $t$ points on one line or one circle. This would rule out an entire family of "one-dimensional" or "almost one-dimensional" constructions.

Throughout, for a finite set $X\subset \mathbf{R}^2$, I write \[ R_X(x):=\left|\{ |x-y|:y\in X\setminus\{x\}\}\right|, \qquad V(X):=\left|\{R_X(x):x\in X\}\right|. \] Thus $g(n)=\max_{|X|=n}V(X)$.

2. Round-2 FOUNDATION USED

I use the following Round-2 results as fixed input.

  • The exact collinear theorem: if $X$ is any $n$-point set contained in a line, then \[ V(X)\le \left\lceil\frac{n}{2}\right\rceil, \] and equality is attained by an arithmetic progression.
  • The explicit line construction $X=\{0,1,\dots,n-1\}$, for which the attained values are exactly \[ \left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil,\left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil+1,\dots,n-1. \]
  • The global status and bounds recorded on the Erdős Problems page: the problem remains open, with known bounds $g(n)>\tfrac38 n$, $g(n)>\tfrac{7}{10}n$, and $g(n)<n-cn^{2/3}$ for some absolute $c>0$ [EP653].

3. NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND 3)

There are two genuinely new ingredients in this round.

(i) Exact circular analogue. If all $n$ points lie on a common circle, then again \[ V(X)\le \left\lceil\frac{n}{2}\right\rceil, \] and this is sharp.

(ii) Stability with outliers. If $X$ has $m$ points on one line or one circle and $t=n-m$ arbitrary outliers, then \[ V(X)\le 2t+\left\lceil\frac{m}{2}\right\rceil. \] Equivalently, if at least $n-t$ points lie on a common line or circle, then \[ V(X)\le 2t+\left\lceil\frac{n-t}{2}\right\rceil. \] In particular, if $t=o(n)$, then \[ V(X)\le \frac{n}{2}+o(n), \] so any eventual construction with $V(X)=(1-o(1))n$ must be genuinely non-concentrated: it cannot place $n-o(n)$ points on a single line or circle.

A sharper corollary is that if $V(X)=(1-o(1))n$, then no line or circle can contain more than $(\tfrac23+o(1))n$ points.

4. ATTACK PLAN (ROUND 3)

The exact gap left after Round 2 was this: the collinear theorem ruled out only a single line. It did not say anything about other natural one-dimensional supports (especially circles), nor about "almost collinear" or "almost cyclic" constructions with a small number of outliers.

The plan is therefore:

  1. prove that for points on a common circle, every fixed point sees each distance with multiplicity at most $2$, giving the same $\lceil n/2\rceil$ upper bound as in the line case;
  2. show that a short-arc circular arithmetic progression attains $\lceil n/2\rceil$, making the circular bound sharp;
  3. add $t$ arbitrary outliers and observe that each outlier can create at most one new distance from any prescribed point on the line/circle support, yielding the stability inequality \[ V(X)\le 2t+\left\lceil\frac{m}{2}\right\rceil. \]

This overcomes the Round-2 obstacle by ruling out an entire class of strategies, not just a single exact model.

5. WORK (ROUND 3)

Lemma 1 (distance multiplicity on a circle).
Let $Y\subset \mathbf{R}^2$ be a finite set of $m$ points on a common circle $C$, and fix $x\in Y$. Then every distance from $x$ to points of $Y\setminus\{x\}$ is realised by at most two points of $Y\setminus\{x\}$. Consequently, \[ \left\lceil\frac{m-1}{2}\right\rceil \le R_Y(x)\le m-1. \]

Proof. Let the circle have centre $O$ and radius $r$. Apply a rigid motion so that $O=(0,0)$ and $x=(r,0)$. Any point $y\in C$ has the form \[ y=(r\cos\theta,r\sin\theta) \] for some $\theta\in [0,2\pi)$. Then \[ |x-y|^2=(r-r\cos\theta)^2+(r\sin\theta)^2=2r^2(1-\cos\theta). \] Thus the distance $|x-y|$ depends only on $\cos\theta$. If two points $y,z\in C$ satisfy $|x-y|=|x-z|$, then their angles $\theta,\phi$ satisfy $\cos\theta=\cos\phi$, hence $\phi\equiv \pm \theta\pmod{2\pi}$. Therefore either $y=z$ or $z$ is the reflection of $y$ across the diameter $Ox$.

So for each fixed distance from $x$, there are at most two points of $C$ at that distance from $x$. Since there are $m-1$ points in $Y\setminus\{x\}$, the number of distinct distances from $x$ to $Y\setminus\{x\}$ is at least $\lceil (m-1)/2\rceil$, and trivially at most $m-1$. $\square$

Theorem 2 (exact line/circle bound).
Let $g_{\mathrm{lc}}(n)$ denote the maximum possible value of $V(X)$ over all $n$-point sets $X\subset \mathbf{R}^2$ contained in a single line or a single circle. Then \[ g_{\mathrm{lc}}(n)=\left\lceil\frac{n}{2}\right\rceil. \] In particular, the exact same extremal value holds in the circular class: \[ g_{\mathrm{circle}}(n)=\left\lceil\frac{n}{2}\right\rceil. \]

Proof. The line case was proved in Round 2, so only the circle case is new.

Let $Y$ be any $n$-point set on a common circle. By Lemma 1, for every $y\in Y$, \[ \left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil \le R_Y(y)\le n-1. \] Hence every value $R_Y(y)$ lies in the integer interval \[ \left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil,\left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil+1,\dots,n-1, \] which contains exactly \[ (n-1)-\left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil+1=\left\lceil\frac{n}{2}\right\rceil \] integers. Therefore \[ V(Y)\le \left\lceil\frac{n}{2}\right\rceil. \]

To see that this is sharp, choose a circle of radius $1$ and pick points \[ y_i=(\cos(i\delta),\sin(i\delta)),\qquad i=0,1,\dots,n-1, \] where $\delta>0$ is so small that \[ (n-1)\delta<\pi. \] Then for each fixed $i$, the distance between $y_i$ and $y_j$ is \[ |y_i-y_j|=2\sin\!\left(\frac{|i-j|\delta}{2}\right). \] Because $0\le |i-j|\delta<\pi$, the function $u\mapsto 2\sin(u/2)$ is strictly increasing on the relevant interval, so equal distances from $y_i$ correspond exactly to equal values of $|i-j|$. Hence \[ R_Y(y_i)=\max\{i,n-1-i\}. \] As $i$ runs from $0$ to $n-1$, these values are precisely \[ \left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil,\left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil+1,\dots,n-1, \] so \[ V(Y)=\left\lceil\frac{n}{2}\right\rceil. \] This proves the circle case, and therefore the combined line/circle statement. $\square$

Theorem 3 (stability with outliers).
Let $X\subset \mathbf{R}^2$ be a finite set with $|X|=n$. Suppose that $Y\subset X$ has $|Y|=m$ and is contained in a single line or a single circle. Write $Z:=X\setminus Y$, so $|Z|=t=n-m$. Then \[ V(X)\le 2t+\left\lceil\frac{m}{2}\right\rceil. \] Equivalently, if at least $n-t$ points of $X$ lie on one line or circle, then \[ V(X)\le 2t+\left\lceil\frac{n-t}{2}\right\rceil. \]

Proof. Fix $y\in Y$. Let \[ S_Y(y):=\{ |y-y'|:y'\in Y\setminus\{y\}\} \] and \[ S_Z(y):=\{ |y-z|:z\in Z\}. \] Then \[ R_X(y)=|S_Y(y)\cup S_Z(y)|. \] By Theorem 2, the line/circle support gives \[ \left\lceil\frac{m-1}{2}\right\rceil \le |S_Y(y)|\le m-1. \] Since $|S_Z(y)|\le t$, adding the outliers can create at most $t$ new distances. Therefore \[ \left\lceil\frac{m-1}{2}\right\rceil \le R_X(y)\le m-1+t=n-1. \] So every value $R_X(y)$ with $y\in Y$ lies in the integer interval \[ \left\lceil\frac{m-1}{2}\right\rceil,\left\lceil\frac{m-1}{2}\right\rceil+1,\dots,n-1, \] which contains exactly \[ (n-1)-\left\lceil\frac{m-1}{2}\right\rceil+1 = n-\left\lceil\frac{m-1}{2}\right\rceil = t+\left\lceil\frac{m}{2}\right\rceil \] integers. Hence the points of $Y$ contribute at most \[ t+\left\lceil\frac{m}{2}\right\rceil \] distinct values to $V(X)$.

The remaining points are the $t$ points of $Z$, which contribute at most $t$ additional values. Therefore \[ V(X)\le \left(t+\left\lceil\frac{m}{2}\right\rceil\right)+t =2t+\left\lceil\frac{m}{2}\right\rceil. \] This proves the claim. $\square$

Corollary 4 (obstruction to asymptotic extremality).
If $X\subset \mathbf{R}^2$ has $|X|=n$ and some line or circle contains $m$ points of $X$, then \[ V(X)\le 2n-\frac{3m}{2}+\frac12. \] In particular, if $V(X)\ge (1-\eta)n$, then \[ m\le \frac{2+2\eta}{3}n+\frac13. \] Hence any family with \[ V(X_n)=(1-o(1))n \] must satisfy the structural condition that no line or circle contains more than $(\tfrac23+o(1))n$ points.

Proof. Apply Theorem 3 with $t=n-m$: \[ V(X)\le 2(n-m)+\left\lceil\frac{m}{2}\right\rceil \le 2n-2m+\frac{m}{2}+\frac12 =2n-\frac{3m}{2}+\frac12. \] Now if also $V(X)\ge (1-\eta)n$, then \[ (1-\eta)n\le 2n-\frac{3m}{2}+\frac12, \] so \[ \frac{3m}{2}\le (1+\eta)n+\frac12, \qquad\text{hence}\qquad m\le \frac{2+2\eta}{3}n+\frac13. \] The asymptotic statement follows immediately. $\square$

6. ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION

I now try to break the new arguments.

  • Circle multiplicity lemma. Could one distance from a fixed point on a circle be realised by three or more points? No: the squared distance is $2r^2(1-\cos\theta)$, and a fixed value of $\cos\theta$ gives only the two possibilities $\theta$ and $-\theta$ modulo $2\pi$, except for the antipodal case where there is only one point.

  • Sharpness construction on a circle. The choice $(n-1)\delta<\pi$ is essential. It ensures that the chord-length function is strictly increasing in $|i-j|\delta$, so no accidental equalities occur beyond the obvious symmetry $|i-j|=|i-k|$.

  • Stability theorem. I only used the interval containment \[ \left\lceil\frac{m-1}{2}\right\rceil\le R_X(y)\le n-1 \quad (y\in Y), \] not any exact formula. So accidental coincidences between distances to $Y$ and distances to outliers in $Z$ can only decrease $R_X(y)$, never increase it beyond the interval bound.

  • Quantifiers. The obstruction is uniform in $n,m,t$: it does not assume that $t$ is fixed or small. The asymptotic corollary is obtained only afterwards by substituting $t=n-m$.

  • Interaction with Round 2. Theorem 2 does not reprove the line case from scratch; it imports the Round-2 collinear theorem and adds only the genuinely new circle case.

No inconsistency with the Round-2 writeup was found.

7. FINAL

UNRESOLVED (BUT STRICTLY ADVANCED)

The full planar problem remains open. However, Round 3 makes a substantive advance beyond Round 2:

  • it proves the exact same extremal value $\lceil n/2\rceil$ for point sets on a single circle as for point sets on a single line;
  • it proves the stability bound \[ V(X)\le 2t+\left\lceil\frac{n-t}{2}\right\rceil \] whenever all but $t$ points lie on one line or one circle;
  • consequently, any putative family with $V(X)=(1-o(1))n$ must avoid placing more than $(\tfrac23+o(1))n$ points on any single line or circle.

This rules out the entire "near-line / near-circle" strategy class.

8. COMPLETION ESTIMATE

COMPLETION: 55%

9. REFERENCES

References

  • [EP653] T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #653, Erdős Problems website, accessed 2026-03-07.
  • [EF97] P. Erdős and P. Fishburn, Distinct distances in finite planar sets, Discrete Mathematics 175 $1997$, 97--132.
  • [CsI97] Gy. Csizmadia and D. Ismailescu, Maximum number of different distance counts, in Intuitive Geometry (Budapest, 1995), Bolyai Society Mathematical Studies 6 $1997$, 301--309.