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Contents
  1. Problem 629 (Round 2)
  2. 1) ROUND-2 OBJECTIVE
  3. 2) Round-1 FOUNDATION USED
  4. 3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND 2)
  5. 4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND 2)
  6. 5) WORK (ROUND 2)
  7. Claim 629.1 (complete bipartite reduction).
  8. Definition 629.2 (splitter and unsplittable pair).
  9. Claim 629.3 (exact reformulation).
  10. Corollary 629.4 (Round-1 bounds recovered and conceptually sharpened).
  11. Corollary 629.5 (the exact obstruction left open).
  12. 6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION
  13. 7) FINAL
  14. 8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE
  15. 9) REFERENCES

Problem 629 (Round 2)

1) ROUND-2 OBJECTIVE

Path C: isolate the exact combinatorial obstruction by replacing the original graph-theoretic minimization problem with an equivalent signed set-system parameter.

Round 1 already proved the coarse but important estimate \[ m(k)\le n(k)\le 2m(k). \] The exact gap that remains is therefore: what additional flexibility is gained by allowing different list-families on the two sides of the bipartition? The most promising Round-2 move is to identify a parameter that measures precisely this asymmetry.

2) Round-1 FOUNDATION USED

I use the following Round-1 facts.

  • The inequalities \[ m(k)\le n(k)\le 2m(k), \] where $m(k)$ is the minimum size of a family of $k$-sets without property B.
  • The exponential-scale consequence $n(k)=2^{k+o(k)}$.

3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND 2)

The new insight is that $n(k)$ is exactly the minimum size of an unsplittable signed pair of $k$-uniform set-families.

More precisely, one must consider two multisets of $k$-sets, \[ \mathcal A=(A_1,\dots,A_a),\qquad \mathcal B=(B_1,\dots,B_b), \] and ask for a subset $S$ of the ground set that simultaneously

  • meets every $A_i$, and
  • contains none of the $B_j$.

If no such $S$ exists, then $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$ is an exact witness for non-$k$-choosability of a complete bipartite graph, and conversely every non-$k$-choosable bipartite graph produces such a witness.

4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND 2)

The exact gap after Round 1 is that the parameter $m(k)$ only captures the symmetric obstruction $\mathcal A=\mathcal B$. To understand whether $n(k)$ is closer to $m(k)$ or to $2m(k)$, one must understand how much a genuinely asymmetric pair $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$ can save.

So the plan is:

  1. prove that in defining $n(k)$, it suffices to consider complete bipartite graphs;
  2. encode list assignments on $K_{a,b}$ as pairs of multisets of $k$-sets;
  3. prove the exact signed-family reformulation $n(k)=\sigma(k)$;
  4. recover the Round-1 bounds as immediate corollaries, thereby identifying the exact missing parameter.

5) WORK (ROUND 2)

Claim 629.1 (complete bipartite reduction).
In the definition of $n(k)$, it is enough to minimize over complete bipartite graphs. Equivalently, \[ n(k)=\min\{a+b: K_{a,b}\ \text{is not $k$-choosable}\}. \]

Proof. Let $G$ be a bipartite graph with bipartition $X\cup Y$, and suppose $G$ is not $k$-choosable. Then there exists a $k$-list assignment $L$ on $G$ that admits no proper $L$-coloring. Now consider the complete bipartite graph $K_{|X|,|Y|}$ on the same bipartition, with the same list assignment $L$. If $K_{|X|,|Y|}$ had a proper $L$-coloring, then that coloring would also be proper for the subgraph $G$, contradiction. So $K_{|X|,|Y|}$ is not $k$-choosable. Therefore the minimum defining $n(k)$ can be attained among complete bipartite graphs. $\square$

Definition 629.2 (splitter and unsplittable pair).
Let $k\ge 1$. A signed $k$-pair is a pair \[ (\mathcal A,\mathcal B), \] where $\mathcal A=(A_1,\dots,A_a)$ and $\mathcal B=(B_1,\dots,B_b)$ are multisets of $k$-subsets of some finite ground set $U$.

A subset $S\subseteq U$ is called a splitter for $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$ if \[ S\cap A_i\neq \emptyset \quad\text{for all }i, \qquad B_j\nsubseteq S \quad\text{for all }j. \] Equivalently: $S$ meets every $A_i$ and contains none of the $B_j$.

A signed $k$-pair is unsplittable if it has no splitter.

Define \[ \sigma(k):=\min\{|\mathcal A|+|\mathcal B|:(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)\ \text{is an unsplittable signed $k$-pair}\}. \]

Claim 629.3 (exact reformulation).
For every $k\ge 1$, \[ n(k)=\sigma(k). \]

Proof. First prove $n(k)\le \sigma(k)$. Let $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$ be an unsplittable signed $k$-pair with $|\mathcal A|=a$ and $|\mathcal B|=b$. Construct the complete bipartite graph $K_{a,b}$ with left side \[ X=\{x_1,\dots,x_a\} \] and right side \[ Y=\{y_1,\dots,y_b\}. \] Assign lists \[ L(x_i):=A_i,\qquad L(y_j):=B_j. \]

Suppose, for contradiction, that there is a proper $L$-coloring $c$. Let \[ S:=\{c(x_i):1\le i\le a\} \] be the set of colors used on the left side. Since $c(x_i)\in A_i$, the set $S$ meets every $A_i$. Also every $y_j$ is adjacent to every $x_i$, so $c(y_j)\notin S$. As $c(y_j)\in B_j$, it follows that $B_j\nsubseteq S$ for every $j$. Hence $S$ is a splitter for $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$, contradicting unsplittability. Therefore $K_{a,b}$ is not $k$-choosable, so $n(k)\le a+b=\sigma(k)$.

Now prove $\sigma(k)\le n(k)$. Let $G$ be a bipartite graph on $n(k)$ vertices that is not $k$-choosable, and by Claim 629.1 assume $G=K_{a,b}$ with bipartition $X\cup Y$, where $a+b=n(k)$. Take a bad $k$-list assignment $L$ on $G$. Write \[ X=\{x_1,\dots,x_a\},\qquad Y=\{y_1,\dots,y_b\}, \] and form the signed $k$-pair \[ \mathcal A:=(L(x_1),\dots,L(x_a)),\qquad \mathcal B:=(L(y_1),\dots,L(y_b)). \] If $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$ had a splitter $S\subseteq U$, then we could color every $x_i$ by any color in $L(x_i)\cap S$, and every $y_j$ by any color in $L(y_j)\setminus S$. This would be a proper $L$-coloring of $K_{a,b}$, because colors on the left lie in $S$ and colors on the right lie outside $S$. This contradicts the choice of $L$. Hence $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$ is unsplittable, and \[ \sigma(k)\le |\mathcal A|+|\mathcal B|=a+b=n(k). \]

Combining the two inequalities gives $n(k)=\sigma(k)$. $\square$

Corollary 629.4 (Round-1 bounds recovered and conceptually sharpened).
For every $k\ge 1$, \[ m(k)\le n(k)\le 2m(k). \]

Proof. Let $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$ be an unsplittable signed $k$-pair. Let $\mathcal F$ be the family of distinct sets appearing in $\mathcal A\cup\mathcal B$, with labels forgotten. If $\mathcal F$ had property B, there would exist $S\subseteq U$ meeting every member of $\mathcal F$ and containing none of them. In particular, $S$ would meet every $A_i$ and contain no $B_j$, making $S$ a splitter for $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$, contradiction. So $\mathcal F$ has no property B, and therefore \[ |\mathcal A|+|\mathcal B|\ge |\mathcal F|\ge m(k). \] Taking the minimum over unsplittable pairs and using Claim 629.3 gives $n(k)\ge m(k)$.

For the upper bound, choose a family $\mathcal F$ of $m(k)$ distinct $k$-sets with no property B. Take the signed pair $(\mathcal F,\mathcal F)$. If $S$ met every member of $\mathcal F$ and contained none of them, then $\mathcal F$ would have property B, impossible. Thus $(\mathcal F,\mathcal F)$ is unsplittable. Hence \[ n(k)=\sigma(k)\le |\mathcal F|+|\mathcal F|=2m(k). \] $\square$

Corollary 629.5 (the exact obstruction left open).
Determining $n(k)$ is equivalent to determining the minimum size of an unsplittable signed $k$-pair. Equivalently, the remaining open question is:
How much smaller can the best asymmetric signed obstruction $(\mathcal A,\mathcal B)$ be than the symmetric property-B obstruction $(\mathcal F,\mathcal F)$?

In particular, any proof that $n(k)<2m(k)$ must exploit a genuinely asymmetric pair.

6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION

I checked the new reformulation against the main possible gaps.

  • Do duplicate lists matter? Yes, they can matter for the vertex count, so $\mathcal A$ and $\mathcal B$ were defined as multisets (or ordered lists), not just ordinary families.

  • Is completion to $K_{a,b}$ legitimate? Yes. A proper coloring of $K_{a,b}$ would automatically be a proper coloring of any spanning bipartite subgraph with the same bipartition, so non-choosability is preserved when we add cross-edges.

  • Could the lower bound $m(k)\le n(k)$ fail because labels are forgotten? No. If the unlabeled union family had property B, the same witness subset would split the signed pair. Forgetting labels only makes the obstruction weaker, so this step is safe.

7) FINAL

UNRESOLVED (BUT STRICTLY ADVANCED).

The strict advance over Round 1 is an exact structural reformulation: \[ n(k)=\sigma(k), \] where $\sigma(k)$ is the minimum size of an unsplittable signed $k$-pair. Thus the open problem is no longer merely "compare $n(k)$ with $m(k)$", but rather "quantify the savings available from asymmetric signed obstructions over the symmetric property-B construction".

8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE

COMPLETION: 62%

9) REFERENCES

  • [Bloom629 ] T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #629, accessed 2026-03-08.