gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-5736
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1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT
Let $F_1$ and $F_2$ be forests each of whose connected components is a star. Write \[ F_1=\bigcup_{i=1}^s K_{1,n_i},\qquad F_2=\bigcup_{j=1}^t K_{1,m_j}, \] where the unions are disjoint unions of components (vertex-disjoint), and assume the sequences are nonincreasing: \[ n_1\ge n_2\ge \cdots \ge n_s,\qquad m_1\ge m_2\ge \cdots \ge m_t. \] (Here $K_{1,r}$ denotes the star with $r$ leaves, i.e. $r$ edges.)
Define the size Ramsey number $\hat R(F_1,F_2)$ to be the least $M$ such that there exists a graph $H$ with $|E(H)|=M$ satisfying: every red/blue colouring of $E(H)$ contains either a red copy of $F_1$ or a blue copy of $F_2$.
The problem statement claims: \[ \hat{R}(F_1,F_2)=\sum_{k=2}^{s+2} \max\{n_i+m_j-1: i+j=k\}. \] There is an apparent misstatement: the upper limit $s+2$ does not involve $t$ and cannot be correct for general $t$. A minimal correction consistent with the usual "diagonal" indexing is \[ \hat{R}(F_1,F_2)\stackrel{?}{=}\sum_{k=2}^{s+t} \ell_k,\qquad \ell_k:= \max\{n_i+m_j-1: 1\le i\le s,\ 1\le j\le t,\ i+j=k\}. \] In what follows, we (a) prove the exact base case $s=t=1$, and (b) prove a coarse general upper bound of the correct qualitative form. We do not complete a proof of the full claimed formula.
2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
The problem statement notes that Burr--Erdős--Faudree--Rousseau--Schelp proved the formula when all $n_i$ are equal and all $m_j$ are equal. We do not assume any further external results.
3) ATTACK PLAN
- First, settle the base case of a single star versus a single star by exact computation of $\hat R(K_{1,a},K_{1,b})$. - Second, build a general explicit Ramsey host graph for $(F_1,F_2)$ as a disjoint union of stars large enough to guarantee either $s$ red stars or $t$ blue stars by a pigeonhole principle. - The full diagonal-sum formula likely requires a refined induction/majorization argument on the sequences $(n_i)$ and $(m_j)$; we do not complete that here.
4) WORK
PHASE 1 — FAST REALITY CHECK
- $s=t=1$, $a=b=1$: $K_{1,1}$ is an edge, so $\hat R(K_{1,1},K_{1,1})=1$. - $s=t=1$, $a=b=2$: the formula below predicts $\hat R(K_{1,2},K_{1,2})=3$; indeed $K_{1,3}$ forces at least two edges of one colour at its centre.
Lemma 561.1 (Exact size Ramsey number for a star versus a star). For all integers $a,b\ge 1$, \[ \hat{R}(K_{1,a},K_{1,b})=a+b-1. \]
Proof. (Upper bound.) Let $H$ be the star $K_{1,a+b-1}$ with centre $c$. Consider any red/blue colouring of its $a+b-1$ edges. Let $r$ be the number of red edges incident to $c$ and $b'$ the number of blue edges; then $r+b'=a+b-1$. If $r\ge a$, then the red edges at $c$ contain a red copy of $K_{1,a}$. Otherwise $r\le a-1$, so $b'=a+b-1-r\ge a+b-1-(a-1)=b$, and the blue edges at $c$ contain a blue copy of $K_{1,b}$. Thus every colouring of $H$ yields a red $K_{1,a}$ or a blue $K_{1,b}$, so $\hat{R}(K_{1,a},K_{1,b})\le a+b-1$.
(Lower bound.) Let $H$ be any graph with at most $a+b-2$ edges. We will produce a red/blue colouring of $E(H)$ with no red $K_{1,a}$ and no blue $K_{1,b}$.
Fix an arbitrary order of the edges of $H$ and colour them one by one. During the process we maintain the invariants \[ \deg_{\text{red}}(v)\le a-1\quad\text{and}\quad \deg_{\text{blue}}(v)\le b-1\qquad\text{for every vertex }v. \] When an uncoloured edge $uv$ is to be coloured, we do the following:
- If $\deg_{\text{red}}(u)\le a-2$ and $\deg_{\text{red}}(v)\le a-2$, colour $uv$ red.
- Otherwise, colour $uv$ blue.
We claim that this never violates the blue-degree invariant, so the algorithm always finishes. Indeed, the only way colouring $uv$ blue could violate an invariant is if one endpoint already has blue degree $b-1$. So suppose that when we reach an uncoloured edge $uv$:
(i) we cannot colour it red (so at least one endpoint, say $u$, already has $\deg_{\text{red}}(u)=a-1$), and
(ii) colouring it blue would violate the blue constraint (so at least one endpoint, say $v$, already has $\deg_{\text{blue}}(v)=b-1$).
If $u=v$, then at this moment the vertex $u$ is already incident to at least $(a-1)+(b-1)=a+b-2$ coloured edges (namely its red edges plus its blue edges), and it is also incident to the still-uncoloured edge $uv$. Hence $\deg_H(u)\ge a+b-1$, which forces $|E(H)|\ge \deg_H(u)\ge a+b-1$, contradicting $|E(H)|\le a+b-2$.
If $u\neq v$, then the set of edges contributing to $\deg_{\text{red}}(u)=a-1$ are all incident to $u$, and the set contributing to $\deg_{\text{blue}}(v)=b-1$ are all incident to $v$. These two edge-sets are disjoint (an edge cannot be incident to both $u$ and $v$ unless it is the edge $uv$ itself, which is still uncoloured). Therefore $H$ contains at least $(a-1)+(b-1)=a+b-2$ already-coloured edges plus the additional edge $uv$, so $|E(H)|\ge a+b-1$, again contradicting $|E(H)|\le a+b-2$.
Thus case (i)+(ii) cannot occur, and the greedy procedure always succeeds. At the end we have $\deg_{\text{red}}(v)\le a-1$ and $\deg_{\text{blue}}(v)\le b-1$ for all $v$, so there is no red $K_{1,a}$ and no blue $K_{1,b}$.
This shows that no graph with at most $a+b-2$ edges is Ramsey for $(K_{1,a},K_{1,b})$, i.e. $\hat{R}(K_{1,a},K_{1,b})\ge a+b-1$. Combining with the upper bound gives equality. $\square$
Remark. The lower-bound colouring argument above used only the inequality $\deg_H(x)\le |E(H)|$; it is therefore valid for all graphs $H$ on at most $a+b-2$ edges.
Lemma 561.2 (A coarse general upper bound for star forests). Let $F_1=\bigcup_{i=1}^s K_{1,n_i}$ and $F_2=\bigcup_{j=1}^t K_{1,m_j}$. Set $N:=\max_i n_i$ and $M:=\max_j m_j$. Then \[ \hat{R}(F_1,F_2)\le (s+t-1)(N+M-1). \]
Proof. Construct a host graph $H$ as the disjoint union of $s+t-1$ stars, each isomorphic to $K_{1,N+M-1}$. Then \[ |E(H)|=(s+t-1)(N+M-1). \]
Consider any red/blue colouring of $E(H)$. Each component star has $N+M-1$ edges, so by Lemma 561.1 applied within each component star, each component contains either a red $K_{1,N}$ or a blue $K_{1,M}$.
If at least $s$ components contain a red $K_{1,N}$, then choosing any $s$ of these components yields $s$ vertex-disjoint red stars each of size $N$. Since $N\ge n_i$ for every $i$, each such red $K_{1,N}$ contains a red copy of $K_{1,n_i}$ as a substar. Thus we can realize a red copy of $F_1$ (possibly after shrinking each red star to the required size).
Otherwise, fewer than $s$ components contain a red $K_{1,N}$, so at least \[ (s+t-1)-(s-1)=t \] components contain a blue $K_{1,M}$. Choosing any $t$ of them yields $t$ vertex-disjoint blue stars of size $M$, and since $M\ge m_j$ for all $j$, these contain a blue copy of $F_2$.
Thus every colouring of $H$ yields a red $F_1$ or a blue $F_2$, so $\hat{R}(F_1,F_2)\le |E(H)|$. $\square$
5) VERIFICATION
- Ambiguity: the formula in the problem statement uses $\sum_{k=2}^{s+2}$, which cannot depend on $t$; the corrected plausible upper limit is $s+t$. The solutions above explicitly separate this issue.
- Lemma 561.1: upper bound is a direct pigeonhole on the star centre. For the lower bound, the greedy colouring maintains degree constraints and cannot get stuck because that would force at least $a+b-1$ edges, contradicting $|E(H)|\le a+b-2$.
- Lemma 561.2: components are vertex-disjoint, so assembling disjoint stars is immediate; shrinking a $K_{1,N}$ to $K_{1,n_i}$ is valid because the star subgraph is obtained by selecting $n_i$ incident edges.
6) FINAL
UNRESOLVED
(i) Strongest proved partial result: - Exact evaluation for the base case $\hat{R}(K_{1,a},K_{1,b})=a+b-1$ (Lemma 561.1). - A general explicit upper bound $\hat{R}(F_1,F_2)\le (s+t-1)(N+M-1)$ for arbitrary star forests (Lemma 561.2).
(ii) First gap (crisp): Prove (or disprove) the full diagonal-max formula \[ \hat{R}(F_1,F_2)=\sum_{k=2}^{s+t} \max\{n_i+m_j-1:\ i+j=k\}, \] and reconcile it with the apparent typo $\sum_{k=2}^{s+2}$ in the literal statement.
(iii) Top 3 next moves: 1. Attempt an inductive proof on $s+t$ for star-forest Ramsey graphs restricted to being star forests, using Lemma 561.1 as the base and a "split off one star" recursion. 2. Prove a matching lower bound for the RHS by showing any graph with fewer than $\sum \ell_k$ edges admits a 2-colouring avoiding both $F_1$ and $F_2$; this likely needs a degree-sequence majorization argument tailored to $(n_i)$ and $(m_j)$. 3. Compute small nontrivial instances (e.g. $(s,t)=(2,2)$ with small $(n_1,n_2,m_1,m_2)$) by exhaustive search over host graphs to test the formula and identify extremal host graph shapes.
(iv) Minimal counterexample structure: A minimal counterexample to the claimed equality would likely have small $(s,t)$ (e.g. $(2,2)$) and moderately unbalanced star sizes, with a host graph that is not itself a star forest (perhaps with shared leaves allowing re-use across components) beating the diagonal-sum edge count. Conversely, if the formula is true, a minimal extremal host graph should be a star forest with component sizes exactly $\ell_k$ edges admitting a 2-colouring avoiding both. Extremal cases likely occur when the maxima $\ell_k$ are achieved by different $(i,j)$ pairs along different diagonals, forcing nontrivial assignment issues.