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Contents
  1. Erdős Problem #50 --- Round 3
  2. 1) ROUND-3 OBJECTIVE
  3. 2) ROUND-2 FOUNDATION USED
  4. 3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND-3)
  5. 4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND-3)
  6. 5) WORK (ROUND-3)
  7. 5.1. General compression lemma
  8. 5.2. Clean corollary for subsets containing the largest prime block
  9. 5.3. Immediate consequences
  10. 5.4. How this sharpens the Round-2 record-holder
  11. 5.5. The corrected obstruction problem
  12. 6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION
  13. 7) FINAL
  14. 8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE (MANDATORY)
  15. 9) REFERENCES

Erdős Problem #50 --- Round 3

1) ROUND-3 OBJECTIVE

Path (C): obstruction/correction. A preliminary correction is necessary: Round 2 carried the wrong problem number. The totient-minimal-preimage question under discussion is Erdős Problem #50, not #51; the mathematical content of Round 2 is unchanged, but the numbering is corrected here. Round 2 left one precise gap: it controlled the size of $n_a/a$ but did not control when a candidate $n$ is actually the minimal preimage of $a=\varphi(n)$. The most promising Round 3 direction is therefore to attack minimality directly.

The new goal is to prove a rigorous obstruction theorem showing that a large class of natural constructions can never yield minimal inverse totients. Concretely, if some subproduct of the prime-power totient blocks of $n$ is one less than a suitable prime, then those blocks can be compressed to a smaller integer with the same totient, so $n$ was not minimal.

2) ROUND-2 FOUNDATION USED

We use the following previously established items.
  • (R2--Foundation 1, imported from Round 1) If \[ n=\prod_{i=1}^r p_i^{\alpha_i}, \] then \[ \varphi(n)=\prod_{i=1}^r p_i^{\alpha_i-1}(p_i-1). \] In particular, \[ \frac{n}{\varphi(n)}=\prod_{p\mid n}\frac{p}{p-1}. \]
  • (R2--Foundation 2) The main unresolved issue after Round 2 was the minimality gap: even if $n/\varphi(n)$ is large, Round 2 did not provide a mechanism to exclude the possibility that some smaller $m<n$ has $\varphi(m)=\varphi(n)$.
  • (R2--Computation) Up to $n_a\le 10^8$, the record ratio came from \[ n_a=3\cdot 5\cdot 17\cdot 47\cdot 347, \qquad a=\varphi(n_a)=2037248, \qquad \frac{n_a}{a}\approx 2.0413788601. \] This will be used only as an illustration of the new obstruction.

3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND-3)

The new ingredient is a local prime-compression principle.

Write a candidate preimage in prime-power blocks \[ n=\prod_{i=1}^r p_i^{\alpha_i}, \qquad t_i:=\varphi\!\left(p_i^{\alpha_i}\right)=p_i^{\alpha_i-1}(p_i-1). \] Then $\varphi(n)=\prod_i t_i$. If, for some subset of blocks, the product of the corresponding $t_i$'s is of the form $q-1$ with $q$ prime and with $q$ not already forced into the complementary part, then those blocks can be replaced by the single prime $q$.

This produces a smaller integer with the same totient. Hence minimal inverse totients must avoid an entire family of such "Euclid compressions."

The strongest clean consequence is an anti-Euclid condition at the largest prime block: every subset containing the largest prime-power block gives a product $\prod t_i$ whose successor is composite, except for the tautological singleton corresponding to a largest prime to the first power.

4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND-3)

The exact Round 2 gap was: how can one certify that a high-ratio solution is not minimal?

The Round 3 plan is:

  1. prove a general compression lemma for prime-power block decompositions;
  2. derive from it a clean corollary for every subset containing the largest prime-power block;
  3. formulate the resulting obstruction as a necessary condition for any future construction toward Erdős #50;
  4. verify that the Round 2 record-holder satisfies the obstruction.

This overcomes the earlier obstacle because it gives a direct contradiction to minimality, not merely a bound on $n/\varphi(n)$.

5) WORK (ROUND-3)

5.1. General compression lemma

Proposition (Local prime compression): Let \[ n=\prod_{i=1}^r p_i^{\alpha_i} \] with distinct primes $p_i$ and exponents $\alpha_i\ge 1$, and define \[ t_i:=\varphi\!\left(p_i^{\alpha_i}\right)=p_i^{\alpha_i-1}(p_i-1). \] Fix a nonempty subset $I\subseteq\{1,\dots,r\}$ and put \[ T_I:=\prod_{i\in I} t_i, \qquad M_I:=\prod_{i\in I} p_i^{\alpha_i}. \] Assume that
  1. $q:=T_I+1$ is prime,
  2. $q\nmid \prod_{j\notin I} p_j^{\alpha_j}$,
  3. either $|I|\ge 2$, or $I=\{i\}$ with $\alpha_i\ge 2$.
Then $n$ is not the smallest positive integer $m$ satisfying $\varphi(m)=\varphi(n)$.
Proof: Define \[ n':=q\prod_{j\notin I} p_j^{\alpha_j}. \] By assumption $2$, $q$ is coprime to $\prod_{j\notin I} p_j^{\alpha_j}$, so the multiplicativity of $\varphi$ gives \[ \varphi(n')=\varphi(q)\prod_{j\notin I} \varphi\!\left(p_j^{\alpha_j}\right) =(q-1)\prod_{j\notin I} t_j =T_I\prod_{j\notin I} t_j =\prod_{i=1}^r t_i =\varphi(n). \] So $n'$ is another preimage of the same totient value.

It remains to show that $n'<n$, equivalently $q<M_I$.

Case 1: $I=\{i\}$ and $\alpha_i\ge 2$. Then \[ q=t_i+1=p_i^{\alpha_i-1}(p_i-1)+1 =p_i^{\alpha_i}-p_i^{\alpha_i-1}+1 <p_i^{\alpha_i}=M_I. \] Thus $n'<n$.

Case 2: $|I|\ge 2$. For each $i\in I$, \[ t_i=\varphi\!\left(p_i^{\alpha_i}\right)\le p_i^{\alpha_i}-1, \] with equality only when $\alpha_i=1$. Hence \[ T_I\le \prod_{i\in I}\left(p_i^{\alpha_i}-1\right). \] Therefore \[ q=T_I+1\le \prod_{i\in I}\left(p_i^{\alpha_i}-1\right)+1. \] Since $|I|\ge 2$ and every $p_i^{\alpha_i}\ge 2$, we have the elementary strict inequality \[ \prod_{i\in I}(x_i-1)+1<\prod_{i\in I}x_i \qquad (x_i\ge 2,\ |I|\ge 2), \] obtained by expanding the right-hand side and observing that the omitted positive terms make the difference strictly positive. Applying this with $x_i=p_i^{\alpha_i}$ yields \[ q<\prod_{i\in I} p_i^{\alpha_i}=M_I. \] So again $n'<n$.

Thus in all cases $n'$ is a smaller integer with the same totient as $n$, so $n$ cannot be minimal. ∎

5.2. Clean corollary for subsets containing the largest prime block

The previous proposition has a technical coprimality hypothesis $q\nmid \prod_{j\notin I}p_j^{\alpha_j}$. The next corollary removes that issue by forcing $I$ to contain the largest prime-power block.
Theorem (Largest-block anti-Euclid obstruction): Let \[ n_a=\prod_{i=1}^r p_i^{\alpha_i} \qquad (p_1<\cdots <p_r) \] be the minimal preimage of a totient value $a$, and put \[ t_i:=p_i^{\alpha_i-1}(p_i-1). \] Let $I\subseteq\{1,\dots,r\}$ be any subset with $r\in I$. If $I\neq \{r\}$ or $\alpha_r\ge 2$, then \[ 1+\prod_{i\in I} t_i \] is composite. Equivalently: the only subset containing the largest prime-power block whose $t$-product can have prime successor is the tautological singleton $I=\{r\}$ when $\alpha_r=1$, where the successor is just $p_r$ itself.
Proof: Suppose, toward a contradiction, that for some such subset $I$ the number \[ q:=1+\prod_{i\in I}t_i \] is prime. We verify the hypotheses of the local compression proposition.

First, $q$ does not divide the complementary factor $\prod_{j\notin I}p_j^{\alpha_j}$. Indeed, all prime divisors in the complement are among $p_1,\dots,p_{r-1}$, hence are $<p_r$. On the other hand, \[ q=1+\prod_{i\in I} t_i \ge 1+t_r. \] If $\alpha_r\ge 2$, then \[ 1+t_r=1+p_r^{\alpha_r-1}(p_r-1)>p_r. \] If $\alpha_r=1$, then $t_r=p_r-1$, so $q\ge p_r$, with equality only if every additional factor in the product equals $1$; this still causes no problem because $p_r\notin\{p_j:j\notin I\}$ when $r\in I$. Thus in every case $q$ is not a prime factor of the complement.

Second, the hypothesis "either $|I|\ge 2$ or the relevant exponent is at least $2$" is exactly the present assumption that $I\neq \{r\}$ or $\alpha_r\ge 2$.

Therefore Proposition 5.1 applies and shows that $n_a$ is not minimal, a contradiction. Hence $q$ must be composite. ∎

5.3. Immediate consequences

Corollary (Largest prime power cannot compress): If $p_r^{\alpha_r}\parallel n_a$ with $\alpha_r\ge 2$, then \[ \varphi\!\left(p_r^{\alpha_r}\right)+1 =p_r^{\alpha_r-1}(p_r-1)+1 \] is composite.
Proof: Take $I=\{r\}$ in Theorem 5.2. ∎
Corollary (Largest prime with one additional block): Assume $n_a$ is squarefree and write \[ n_a=p_1\cdots p_r \qquad (p_1<\cdots <p_r). \] Then for every $j<r$, \[ (p_j-1)(p_r-1)+1 \] is composite. More generally, for every nonempty subset $J\subseteq\{1,\dots,r-1\}$, \[ 1+(p_r-1)\prod_{j\in J}(p_j-1) \] is composite.
Proof: Apply Theorem 5.2 with $I=J\cup\{r\}$ and note that $t_i=p_i-1$ in the squarefree case. ∎
Corollary (Fixed-base obstruction): Fix an odd integer \[ m=\prod_{j=1}^s r_j^{\beta_j} \] with distinct prime bases $r_j$, and let \[ u_J:=\prod_{j\in J}\varphi\!\left(r_j^{\beta_j}\right) \qquad (\emptyset\neq J\subseteq\{1,\dots,s\}). \] Let $q$ be a prime exceeding every prime divisor of $m$. If $n=mq$ is the minimal preimage of $\varphi(n)$, then for every nonempty $J$, \[ u_J(q-1)+1 \] is composite.
Proof: Write the prime-power blocks of $m$ together with the final block $q$. Since the $q$-block is the largest prime block and appears to the first power, apply Theorem 5.2 to subsets consisting of that block together with the blocks indexed by $J$. The corresponding product of $t$-values is exactly $u_J(q-1)$. ∎

5.4. How this sharpens the Round-2 record-holder

Round 2 found the record-holder up to $10^8$: \[ n_a=3\cdot 5\cdot 17\cdot 47\cdot 347, \qquad a=\varphi(n_a)=2037248. \] Here the largest prime block is $347$, and the smaller $t$-values are \[ 2,\ 4,\ 16,\ 46. \] Thus Theorem 5.2 forces the compositeness of \[ 1+346u \] for every nonempty subset-product \[ u\in\{2,4,8,16,32,46,64,92,128,184,368,736,1472,2944,5888\}. \] A direct factorization check gives, for example, \[ 693=3^2\cdot 7\cdot 11, \qquad 15917=11\cdot 1447, \qquad 2037249=3^2\cdot 41\cdot 5521, \] and similarly for the remaining $12$ values.

So the Round 2 record-holder already exhibits the new Round 3 obstruction in a strong form: all $15$ nontrivial largest-block Euclid successors are composite.

5.5. The corrected obstruction problem

Theorem 5.2 isolates a precise barrier that any future proof of Erdős #50 must overcome.
Corrected obstruction statement. Any infinite family of minimal inverse totients \[ n_\nu=\prod_{i=1}^{r_\nu} p_{\nu,i}^{\alpha_{\nu,i}} \] can witness $n_{a_\nu}/a_\nu\to\infty$ only if, for every $\nu$ and every subset containing the largest prime-power block, the successor \[ 1+\prod_{i\in I} \varphi\!\left(p_{\nu,i}^{\alpha_{\nu,i}}\right) \] is composite, except for the tautological singleton largest-prime block.

This is a genuine obstruction: it rules out any construction strategy in which these Euclid-type successors are allowed to be prime infinitely often.

6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION

  • Why the unrestricted statement is false. A too-optimistic claim would say that for every nontrivial subset $I$, the successor $1+\prod_{i\in I}t_i$ must be composite. This is false because the new prime can coincide with a prime already present in the complementary part. For example, \[ n=3\cdot 7\cdot 13 \] has \[ (3-1)(7-1)+1=13, \] which is prime, yet this does not by itself yield a coprime replacement because $13$ already occurs outside the chosen subset. This is exactly why Proposition 5.1 includes the coprimality hypothesis, and why Theorem 5.2 is stated only for subsets containing the largest prime block.

  • Boundary case $I=\{r\}$ with $\alpha_r=1$. Then \[ 1+t_r=1+(p_r-1)=p_r \] is prime, but replacing the largest prime block by itself changes nothing. This tautological case is explicitly excluded from Theorem 5.2.

  • Strict inequality $q<M_I$. This was checked separately in the proof of Proposition 5.1. For singleton subsets this requires $\alpha_i\ge 2$; otherwise $q=p_i$ and no decrease occurs. For subsets of size at least $2$, the inequality \[ \prod (x_i-1)+1<\prod x_i \] for $x_i\ge 2$ is strict and leaves no hidden equality case.

  • Interaction with Round 2 computation. The theorem does not assert that the Round 2 record-holder is minimal; that was already known computationally from Round 2. What Round 3 adds is a structural explanation of why certain obvious compressions are impossible: all $15$ relevant largest-block Euclid successors are indeed composite.

7) FINAL

UNRESOLVED (BUT STRICTLY ADVANCED).

Round 3 resolves the main logical weakness left after Round 2 by proving a new minimality obstruction:

  • the general local prime-compression lemma (Proposition 5.1), and
  • the largest-block anti-Euclid obstruction (Theorem 5.2).
These results rule out an entire class of natural construction strategies. In particular, any attempt to prove Erdős #50 by exhibiting explicit high-ratio families must now solve a sharply formulated compositeness problem for all Euclid-type successors attached to the largest prime-power block.

This is strictly stronger than Round 2: it does not merely bound or search for $n_a/a$, but gives a concrete criterion showing when a candidate preimage cannot be minimal.

8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE (MANDATORY)

COMPLETION: 48%

9) REFERENCES

  • T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #50, https://www.erdosproblems.com/50, accessed 2026-03-07.
  • J. B. Rosser and L. Schoenfeld, "Approximate formulas for some functions of prime numbers", Illinois J. Math. 6 $1962$, Theorem 15.
  • E. W. Weisstein, "Totient Function", MathWorld.