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  1. Erdős problem #334

Erdős problem #334

1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT.

Smoothness. For an integer $m\ge 1$ and a real $y\ge 2$, write $P^+(m)$ for the largest prime divisor of $m$ (with the convention $P^+(1)=1$). We say that $m$ is $y$--smooth if $P^+(m)\le y$.

Target function. We seek the smallest possible function $f:\mathbb{N}\to[2,\infty)$ such that for every integer $n\ge 2$ there exist integers $a,b\ge 1$ with \[ n=a+b,\qquad P^+(a)\le f(n),\quad P^+(b)\le f(n). \] The question asks for the best asymptotic growth of such an $f(n)$.

What "best" can mean. Pointwise, the optimal value is the minimum smoothness threshold that works for each fixed $n$. Asymptotically, one can ask for the smallest order of growth of $f(n)$ as $n\to\infty$ that guarantees a decomposition for every $n$.

2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK. The problem statement itself is the only allowed source of prior results. It does not assert a theorem-level bound, but it does ask whether $f(n)$ can be as small as $n^\varepsilon$ for each fixed $\varepsilon>0$, or whether $f(n)$ must be substantially larger.

3) ATTACK PLAN.

  • Reduce the problem to an explicit pointwise extremal function $g(n)$.
  • Prove unconditional elementary bounds on $g(n)$.
  • Run a small computation of $g(n)$ for sanity.
  • Identify the first genuine analytic gap: controlling $g(n)$ asymptotically requires nontrivial information about representations of $n$ as a sum of smooth numbers.

4) WORK.

Lemma 334.1 (pointwise optimal threshold). Define \[ g(n) := \min_{1\le a\le n-1}\; \max\left(P^+(a),\,P^+(n-a)\right)\qquad (n\ge 2). \] Then:

  1. (a) For each $n\ge 2$, the value $g(n)$ is the smallest real number $y$ for which $n$ admits a decomposition $n=a+b$ with both $a$ and $b$ $y$--smooth.
  2. (b) A function $f$ satisfies the problem requirement for all $n$ if and only if $f(n)\ge g(n)$ for all $n\ge 2$.

Proof. (a) If $n=a+b$ with both $a$ and $b$ $y$--smooth, then $P^+(a)\le y$ and $P^+(b)\le y$, hence $\max(P^+(a),P^+(b))\le y$. Minimizing over all $a$ shows $g(n)\le y$. Conversely, by definition of $g(n)$ there exists some $a$ such that $\max(P^+(a),P^+(n-a))=g(n)$; then $a$ and $n-a$ are $g(n)$--smooth and sum to $n$.

(b) If $f$ works, then for each $n$ there exists $a$ with $\max(P^+(a),P^+(n-a))\le f(n)$, hence $g(n)\le f(n)$ by the defining minimum. Conversely if $f(n)\ge g(n)$, pick $a$ attaining the minimum in $g(n)$, and the corresponding $a,n-a$ are $f(n)$--smooth. $\square$

Lemma 334.2 (elementary universal upper bounds). For all $n\ge 2$, \[ g(n)\le P^+(n-1)\le n-1. \] Moreover, for even $n=2m$ one has $g(n)\le P^+(m)$.

Proof. Take the decomposition $n=1+(n-1)$. Since $P^+(1)=1$ and $P^+(n-1)\le n-1$, we get \[ g(n)\le \max\left(P^+(1),P^+(n-1)\right)=P^+(n-1)\le n-1. \] If $n=2m$, then $n=m+m$ gives $g(2m)\le \max(P^+(m),P^+(m))=P^+(m)$. $\square$

FAST REALITY CHECK (computed small cases). I computed $g(n)$ exactly by brute force for $n\le 10\,000$ using the definition in Lemma 334.1. For $2\le n\le 20$ the values and one minimizing decomposition $(a,n-a)$ are: \[ \begin{array}{c|ccccccccccccccccccc} n &2&3&4&5&6&7&8&9&10&11&12&13&14&15&16&17&18&19&20\\\hline g(n)&1&2&2&2&2&3&2&2&2&3&2&3&3&3&2&2&2&3&2\\ (a,b)&(1,1)&(1,2)&(2,2)&(1,4)&(2,4)&(1,6)&(4,4)&(1,8)&(2,8)&(2,9)&(4,8)&(1,12)&(2,12)&(3,12)&(8,8)&(1,16)&(2,16)&(1,18)&(4,16) \end{array} \] For larger ranges, the maximum observed values were:

  • $\max_{2\le n\le 200} g(n)=7$ (attained at $n\in\{71,119,142,191\}$).
  • $\max_{2\le n\le 1\,000} g(n)=13$ (attained at $n\in\{479,958\}$).
  • $\max_{2\le n\le 10\,000} g(n)=19$ (attained at $n\in\{5711,8399,9239\}$).
These computations suggest $g(n)$ stays small for $n$ up to $10^4$, but this is far from an asymptotic proof.

5) VERIFICATION.

  • Lemma 334.1 is a direct unpacking of definitions.
  • Lemma 334.2 uses explicit decompositions $n=1+(n-1)$ and $2m=m+m$.
  • The computation for $g(n)$ is finite and exact for the tested range: for each $n$ it searches all $a\in\{1,\dots,n-1\}$ and evaluates $\max(P^+(a),P^+(n-a))$.

6) FINAL.

UNRESOLVED

(i) Strongest fully proved partial result obtained here. The problem reduces pointwise to bounding \[ g(n)=\min_{1\le a\le n-1}\max\left(P^+(a),P^+(n-a)\right) \] (Lemma 334.1), and we have the unconditional bound $g(n)\le P^+(n-1)\le n-1$ (Lemma 334.2). Computations up to $n=10\,000$ found $g(n)\le 19$.

(ii) Exact first gap. We do not have a nontrivial asymptotic upper bound on $g(n)$ that holds for all large $n$ (e.g., $g(n)\le n^\varepsilon$ for every fixed $\varepsilon>0$). Any such bound would require controlling representations of every integer $n$ as a sum of two $y$--smooth numbers with $y$ much smaller than $n$.

(iii) Top 3 next moves (concrete targets).

  1. Prove a deterministic covering lemma of the form: for some explicit $y=y(n)$, every interval $[1,n]$ contains enough $y$--smooth numbers so that $\{a+b: a,b\ \text{$y$--smooth}\}$ covers $[1,n]$.
  2. Try to show that for each residue class modulo a suitable primorial $\prod_{p\le y}p$, every large $n$ has a representation $n\equiv a+b\pmod{\prod_{p\le y}p}$ with $a,b$ chosen from a dense set of $y$--smooth residues.
  3. Compute $g(n)$ to larger ranges (e.g. $10^6$) and record the maximizing $n$ and the structure of minimizing decompositions to guess a sharper conjecture for $g(n)$.

(iv) Minimal counterexample structure. A counterexample to a proposed bound $g(n)\le y(n)$ would be an integer $n$ such that for every $1\le a\le n-1$ at least one of $a$ or $n-a$ has a prime factor $>y(n)$. Equivalently, the complement of the $y(n)$--smooth numbers would have to be "sum-dominating" enough that it blocks every decomposition of $n$.