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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-5441

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Unverified LLM-generated attempt. Automated screening checks form, honesty and scope, not correctness. Status at erdosproblems.com: disproved. Claims here do not change the source status.

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Contents
  1. FORMAL RESTATEMENT
  2. QUICK LITERATURE AND CONTEXT CHECK
  3. WORK
  4. The two-element case
  5. A large set avoiding every odd square product
  6. A transfer lemma isolating the upper-bound difficulty
  7. VERIFICATION
  8. FINAL STATUS
  9. SOURCES
  10. COMPLETION ESTIMATE

FORMAL RESTATEMENT

Erdős #121; partial reconstruction, 2026-09-23. Let $F_k(N)$ be the maximum size of $A\subseteq[N]$ for which no $k$ distinct elements have square product. Is $F_5(N)=(1-o(1))N$, and more generally does this hold for odd $k\ge5$?

QUICK LITERATURE AND CONTEXT CHECK

The assertion is known to be false: Tao's primary paper proves $F_k(N)\le(1-c_k)N$ for sufficiently large $N$ and fixed $k\ge4$, with $c_k>0$. We prove elementary comparison results and the precise probabilistic transfer step, while isolating the analytic construction needed for the full negative answer. The latter is cited, not claimed as independently proved here. No novelty is claimed.

WORK

The two-element case

Write uniquely $n=s(n)t^2$ with $s(n)$ squarefree. Then $uv$ is a square if and only if $s(u)=s(v)$. An admissible set for $F_2$ contains at most one number per kernel, and the squarefree numbers themselves achieve this bound. Thus \[ F_2(N)=\sum_{n\le N}\mu(n)^2 =\sum_{d\le\sqrt N}\mu(d)\lfloor N/d^2\rfloor =\frac{6}{\pi^2}N+O(\sqrt N). \] The final equality uses the absolutely convergent Euler product $\sum_d\mu(d)/d^2=1/\zeta(2)$; its tail and the floor errors are each $O(\sqrt N)$.

A large set avoiding every odd square product

Let $A_N$ consist of integers at most $N$ with a prime divisor $p>\sqrt N$. Each has exactly one such prime, appearing to exponent one. In a product of an odd number of members, the total number of these large-prime occurrences is odd, so at least one prime occurs an odd number of times. The product cannot be a square, whether or not the selected elements are distinct. Consequently \[ F_k(N)\ge |A_N|\quad\hbox{for every odd }k. \] Distinct primes above $\sqrt N$ cannot divide the same integer at most $N$, so, by the prime number theorem and Mertens' prime reciprocal sum, \[ |A_N|=\sum_{\sqrt N<p\le N}\lfloor N/p\rfloor =N\sum_{\sqrt N<p\le N}\frac1p+O(\pi(N)) =(\log2+o(1))N. \tag{1} \] This is a genuine positive-density lower construction, but does not approach density one.

A transfer lemma isolating the upper-bound difficulty

Suppose a random tuple $(X_1,\ldots,X_k)$ has square product always, and there is an event $E$ such that $X_i\in[N]$ on $E$ and \[ \Pr(E)\ge aL^{-k},\qquad \Pr(E\cap\{X_i=x\})\le b/(NL^k),\qquad \Pr(\exists i<j:X_i=X_j)=o(L^{-k}), \tag{2} \] where $L=\log N$ and $a,b>0$ depend only on $k$. If $A\subseteq[N]$ omits at most $aN/(4kb)$ elements, the union bound shows that the probability of $E$ together with some $X_i\notin A$ is at most $a/(4L^k)$. For sufficiently large $N$, the collision probability is also at most $a/(4L^k)$. Thus with positive probability all the $X_i$ are distinct members of $A$ and have square product. This proves \[ F_k(N)\le (1-a/(4kb))N \tag{3} \] under $2$.

The algebraic source of such tuples is particularly simple. Give the edges of a complete graph on $k$ vertices independent positive integer labels $D_{ij}=D_{ji}$ and put $X_i=\prod_{j\ne i}D_{ij}$. Then $\prod_iX_i=\prod_{i<j}D_{ij}^2$ automatically. What is difficult is choosing the distributions so the tuple has the uniform marginal bounds in $2$ after conditioning on its size. Uniform edge labels alone do not establish those bounds. Tao's Proposition 2.1 constructs precisely $2$, using small squarefree factors, larger prime factors, and prime-distribution estimates. Thus $3$, together with that external proposition, reproduces the known negative answer. Its uniform probability estimate has not been proved in this attempt.

VERIFICATION

All products in the question require distinct elements; the transfer lemma explicitly removes collisions. The lower construction $1$ works simultaneously for every odd length, whereas the upper-bound constants are for fixed $k$. Small exact subset searches in the batch checks confirm the squarefree-kernel rule and the odd-product construction. They do not verify Tao's asymptotic probabilistic estimates.

FINAL STATUS

UNRESOLVED within this partial reconstruction; the problem is already disproved in the literature. The elementary bounds and transfer implication are proved. Completing an independent reconstruction requires the distributional estimates in $2$, particularly uniformity in $x$; simply restating Proposition 2.1 is not counted as proving that missing part.

SOURCES

https://www.erdosproblems.com/121. T. Tao, On product representations of squares, Proposition 2.1, https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.11610. Checked 2026-09-23. The estimate below assesses the proof reproduced here, not the established literature status.

COMPLETION ESTIMATE

COMPLETION: 35%