The inverse-state twist interface, extraction boundary, and exact storage limit
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Definitions and mathematical statement
Shared notation.
Standard number systems are denoted by $\mathbb N,\mathbb Z,\mathbb Q,\mathbb R,\mathbb C$; index ranges, computational models and specialized notation follow the cited problem source and the definitions below.A digital signature enables public verification of an authenticated message. Ring signatures hide which member of a stated group signed; blind signatures conceal the signed message from the signer; threshold signatures distribute signing authority. The source asks for constructions from group actions and improved memory use through an analogue of the twist technique.
Statement recorded in the supplied source.
Advanced digital signature functionality from group theoryThe connection between SDLP and group actions suggests the availability of generic group-action tools to build more efficient signatures, or signatures with more specialised properties.
We would like to use generic group-action tools to build ring signatures, blind signatures, threshold signatures and more. We would also like to apply the "twist" technique present in similar isogeny schemes to improve the memory performance of group-based digital signatures. [S2]
Scope qualification.
The source names functionalities but supplies no security experiment, group family, or formal description of the proposed twist. This is a construction-method question, not a claimed secure protocol.Source status.
The supplied catalogue labels this record partially solved. Its source-status metadata was checked against the supplied snapshot on 2026-10-11. This import does not independently establish current open status or mathematical correctness.Short English statement
Can group-action methods build specialized digital signatures and reduce their memory requirements?Sources
- S1 Ulam AI and the UnsolvedMath Contributors, UnsolvedMath: A Curated Collection of Open Mathematics Problems, record 20001318 (AIM-CRYPTOGRAPHY-0005). Catalogue curation and metadata: CC BY 4.0. The supplied source question is retained; definitions and the English summary are editorial additions. https://huggingface.co/datasets/ulamai/UnsolvedMath.
- S2 AIM Workshop Problem Lists, original problem source linked by catalogue record AIM-CRYPTOGRAPHY-0005 http://aimpl.org/postquantgroup/2/.
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gpt 6 astra ultra attempt on CS-243
Group-action identification and the doubling obstruction in a twist variant
Definitions and mathematical statement
Shared notation.
Standard number systems are denoted by $\mathbb N,\mathbb Z,\mathbb Q,\mathbb R,\mathbb C$; index ranges, computational models and specialized notation follow the cited problem source and the definitions below.A digital signature enables public verification of an authenticated message. Ring signatures hide which member of a stated group signed; blind signatures conceal the signed message from the signer; threshold signatures distribute signing authority. The source asks for constructions from group actions and improved memory use through an analogue of the twist technique.
Statement recorded in the supplied source.
Advanced digital signature functionality from group theoryThe connection between SDLP and group actions suggests the availability of generic group-action tools to build more efficient signatures, or signatures with more specialised properties.
We would like to use generic group-action tools to build ring signatures, blind signatures, threshold signatures and more. We would also like to apply the "twist" technique present in similar isogeny schemes to improve the memory performance of group-based digital signatures. [S2]
Scope qualification.
The source names functionalities but supplies no security experiment, group family, or formal description of the proposed twist. This is a construction-method question, not a claimed secure protocol.Source status.
The supplied catalogue labels this record partially solved. Its source-status metadata was checked against the supplied snapshot on 2026-10-11. This import does not independently establish current open status or mathematical correctness.Short English statement
Can group-action methods build specialized digital signatures and reduce their memory requirements?Sources
- S1 Ulam AI and the UnsolvedMath Contributors, UnsolvedMath: A Curated Collection of Open Mathematics Problems, record 20001318 (AIM-CRYPTOGRAPHY-0005). Catalogue curation and metadata: CC BY 4.0. The supplied source question is retained; definitions and the English summary are editorial additions. https://huggingface.co/datasets/ulamai/UnsolvedMath.
- S2 AIM Workshop Problem Lists, original problem source linked by catalogue record AIM-CRYPTOGRAPHY-0005 http://aimpl.org/postquantgroup/2/.
Verbatim supplied catalogue question
Advanced digital signature functionality from group theoryThe connection between SDLP and group actions suggests the availability of generic group-action tools to build more efficient signatures, or signatures with more specialised properties.
We would like to use generic group-action tools to build ring signatures, blind signatures, threshold signatures and more. We would also like to apply the "twist" technique present in similar isogeny schemes to improve the memory performance of group-based digital signatures.
Attempt and results
The requested ring, blind, and threshold signatures require security definitions and constructions that the source does not fix. We try a basic identification layer and a signed-challenge modification to expose what a twist would have to supply. No signature scheme or security reduction is completed here.The ordinary two-challenge action protocol.
Let a finite abelian group $A$, written additively, act freely and transitively on $X$. Fix $x\in X$, secret $s\in A$, and public $y=s\cdot x$. The prover samples uniform $r\in A$ and sends $t=r\cdot x$. On challenge $c\in\{0,1\}$ it returns $z=r-cs$. The verifier accepts exactly when $z\cdot(c s\cdot x)=t$, where it uses $x$ for $c=0$ and the public $y$ for $c=1$; it need not know $s$. Completeness follows from $z+cs=r$. Two accepting transcripts for the same $t$ with responses $z_0,z_1$ obey $z_0\cdot x=z_1\cdot y$. Freeness implies $z_0=z_1+s$, hence $s=z_0-z_1$. For each fixed challenge, one can simulate its transcript without $s$ by sampling uniform $z$ and defining $t=z\cdot x$ or $t=z\cdot y$ as appropriate. Translation by $cs$ is a bijection on $A$, so this has exactly the honest transcript distribution. This proves perfect special honest-verifier simulation for the specified identification protocol. It does not prove unforgeability of any derived signature, anonymity, blindness, or security against quantum rewinding.The signed-challenge attempt extracts only a double.
A basepoint-fixing inverse-state map, if available, must have $\iota(a\cdot x)=(-a)\cdot x$. Freeness and transitivity make this a well-defined involution, and it satisfies $\iota(b\cdot u)=(-b)\cdot\iota(u)$. Existence as a set map does not make evaluation efficient: recovering $a$ and negating it would already solve vectorization. Assume efficient evaluation of $\iota$, so both $y_+=y$ and $y_-=\iota(y)$ are available. For challenges $c\in\{+1,-1\}$, let the response again be $z_c=r-cs$, verified by $z_c\cdot y_c=t$. Two accepting responses yield $z_- - z_+=2s$, by freeness. The solutions of this doubling equation are precisely $s+A[2]$, where $A[2]=\{a:2a=0\}$: subtraction reduces it to the kernel of doubling. If $A$ has exponent two, the two public states and verification equations coincide. A prover can choose any $z$ and set $t=z\cdot y$; that same response answers either challenge without knowing a transporter from $x$ to $y$. Thus the ordinary extraction argument fails completely in this case. It does not prove all protocols using twists fail; it identifies the missing inversion-of-doubling or disambiguation step in this specific proposal.A literal storage limit.
For $q$ independently chosen states in an $M$-element set, there are $M^q$ possible arrays. Any fixed-length binary encoding from which every array is recovered exactly must be injective, so length $b$ requires $2^b\ge M^q$, or $b\ge q\log_2 M$. In contrast, arrays of deterministic pairs $(u,\iota(u))$ have only $M$ possibilities per pair and can store just $u$ when $\iota$ is efficiently recomputed. Therefore halving such paired storage does not prove a compression of independent commitments or a complete signature memory improvement.Context, adversarial audit, and gap
The original AIMPL page failed retrieval; the official workshop description and supplied snapshot provide context. The supplied research summary already identifies a doubling issue, so no priority is asserted for this rederivation. The audit checked the sign convention, public-only verification, exact simulator distribution, two-torsion, and fixed-length versus arbitrary compression. No concrete signature functionality, implementation, or full security experiment was supplied or tested.Process and contributions
Mathematics and model-assisted adversarial self-audit: OpenAI gpt-6-astra, ultra reasoning, as dispatched for this research batch; exact serving revision not exposed. Codex (GPT-6; exact serving revision not exposed) materially assisted with orchestration and format review. No human mathematical authorship, mathematical edits, or independent human proof checking is asserted. Contribution prompt A was applied to the full definition and supplied source row, then prompt B was applied adversarially to the derived results. The item-specific audit above records the scope checks and rejected extrapolations. Local assembly and structural checks do not establish mathematical correctness. The source catalogue status is preserved in TOP_PROBLEM and is separate from this attempt status.Integration review.
Codex (GPT-6; exact serving revision not exposed) reviewed the written arguments and expanded layout and source-reference wrappers. Repository metadata and the production web renderer were checked using Python 3.13 and JavaScript with MathJax 3.2.2. This model-assisted review is not independent human proof verification; no PDF compilation or formal proof checking is asserted.Completion Estimate
COMPLETION: 0% The proved material is a rederivation of known or auxiliary facts rather than a substantiated new advance on the original target. The identification calculations and storage bound do not construct secure ring, blind, or threshold signatures, nor establish a practical twist memory improvement.References
The complete original Sources subsection above is retained, including catalogue attribution and licence notices. The additional list records primary sources actually consulted for this attempt on 11 October 2026; uncited source links reproduced above were not all rechecked.- Official AIM workshop description, Post-quantum group-based cryptography, 29 April--3 May 2024; provenance and scope inspected on 11 October 2026. AIMPL pages failed retrieval, so the exact problem wording remains supplied-snapshot material. https://aimath.org/workshops/upcoming/postquantgroup/.