Kourovka Notebook Problem 18.100
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For classes of groups $\mathfrak A$ and $\mathfrak B$, use the extension convention \[ \mathfrak A\mathfrak B=\{H:\text{there exists }K\trianglelefteq H\text{ with }K\in\mathfrak A\text{ and }H/K\in\mathfrak B\}. \] The supplied record does not explicitly define multiplication of group classes. The formulations below use this convention, retaining the supplied parentheses, and require confirmation of that convention against the source.For a positive integer $m$, let $\mathfrak F$ be the class of finite groups, let \[ \mathfrak E_m=\{H:(\forall h\in H)\ h^m=1\}, \qquad \mathfrak E=\bigcup_{n\geq 1}\mathfrak E_n, \] and let $\mathfrak N$ and $\mathfrak P$ be the classes of nilpotent groups and polycyclic groups, respectively. Here a group is nilpotent if its lower central series reaches the trivial subgroup after finitely many steps, and it is polycyclic if it has a finite subnormal series with cyclic factors. A group $G$ is soluble-by-finite if it has a soluble normal subgroup of finite index; soluble means that the derived series reaches the trivial subgroup after finitely many steps.
Write $x^y=y^{-1}xy$. For any class of groups $\mathfrak X$, define $(\mathfrak X,\infty)^\ast$ by \[ H\in(\mathfrak X,\infty)^\ast \quad\Longleftrightarrow\quad (\forall S\subseteq H)\left[\,S\text{ infinite}\ \Longrightarrow\ (\exists x,y\in S)\left(x\ne y\ \text{and}\ \langle x,x^y\rangle\in\mathfrak X\right)\,\right]. \] Here $\langle x,x^y\rangle$ is the subgroup generated by $x$ and $x^y$. This condition is vacuous for finite $H$; the problem does not exclude finite groups.
The following three questions are attributed to N. Trabelsi. In each question, quantify over every finitely generated soluble-by-finite group $G$.
- (a) Does \[ G\in(\mathfrak E\mathfrak N,\infty)^\ast \quad\Longrightarrow\quad G\in\mathfrak E\mathfrak N \] hold?
- (b) For every positive integer $m$, does \[ G\in(\mathfrak E_m\mathfrak N,\infty)^\ast \quad\Longrightarrow\quad G\in\mathfrak E_m(\mathfrak F\mathfrak N) \] hold? The same integer $m$ occurs in the hypothesis and the conclusion.
- (c) Does \[ G\in(\mathfrak N(\mathfrak P\mathfrak F),\infty)^\ast \quad\Longrightarrow\quad G\in\mathfrak N(\mathfrak P\mathfrak F) \] hold?
Short English statement
For finitely generated soluble-by-finite groups, ask whether requiring every infinite subset to contain distinct $x,y$ whose subgroup $\langle x,x^y\rangle$ belongs to the specified class forces the corresponding global class membership in (a), (b), and (c). In (b), the exponent bound $m$ is fixed and must be preserved. The interpretation of products of group classes requires source confirmation.Sources
- Local UnsolvedMath registry, supplied complete record with permanent ID $701529$, exact source problem code
catalogue entry, title Kourovka Notebook Problem 18.100. The record supplies the statusopenand attribution to N. Trabelsi, proposed in 2014. - Supplied source attribution: The Kourovka Notebook (Unsolved Problems in Group Theory), 18th issue (2014), original problem number 18.100; also identified in the record as the 21st issue edition (2026), arXiv:
1401.0300v48. - The supplied collection description names E. I. Khukhro and V. D. Mazurov as editors of the Kourovka Notebook collection covering Issues 1--21 (1965--2026).
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