Erdős Problem #920
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Fix an integer k$\ge$ 3. For n$\in\mathbb N$, let g_k(n) be the maximum possible chromatic number of a graph G on n vertices that contains no complete subgraph K_k. Equivalently, \[g_k(n):=\max\{\chi(G): |V(G)|=n,\; K_k\not\subseteq G\}.\]
Question (for k$\ge$ 4): Is there a constant c>0 (depending on k) such that \[ g_k(n) \ge C\, \frac{n^{1-\frac{1}{k-1}}}{(\log n)^c} \] for all sufficiently large n and some constant C=C(k)>0? (Here “$\gg$” in the problem statement is interpreted as a big-Omega statement with constants allowed to depend on k.)
Restatement from Math-5991-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-5991
Erdős Problem #920: chromatic growth without a fixed clique
Statement and current result
Let $f_k(n)$ be the largest chromatic number of an $n$-vertex $K_k$-free graph. For each fixed $k\geq4$, the requested lower bound holds. More precisely, \[ f_k(n)\gg_k \frac{n^{1-1/(k-1)}}{(\log n)^{(2k-4)/(k-1)}}. \tag{1} \] We give an elementary probabilistic construction first, then prove $1$ from the exact current Ramsey input, with constants and rounding controlled. This updates the older local attempt, which preceded the relevant 2026 theorem.A self-contained, weaker construction
Fix $k\geq4$, write $b=\binom{k}{2}$, and choose a constant $c>0$ so small that $2^kc^b\leq1/8$. In the random graph on $2n$ vertices with edge probability $p=cn^{-2/k}$, the expected number of copies of $K_k$ is at most \[ (2n)^kp^b\leq n/8. \] By Markov's inequality, the probability of more than $n$ such cliques is at most $1/8$.Set $t=\lceil6p^{-1}\log(2n)\rceil$. For large $n$, $t\leq2n$, and the expected number of independent $t$-sets is at most \[ \binom{2n}{t}(1-p)^{\binom t2} \leq \exp\left(t\log\frac{2en}{t}-\frac p2t(t-1)\right)=o(1). \] For example, $p(t-1)\geq6\log(2n)-p$, while $\log(2en/t)\leq\log(2en)$, so the exponent tends to negative infinity. Some graph has at most $n$ forbidden cliques and no independent $t$-set. Delete one vertex from each surviving forbidden clique. At least $n$ vertices remain, the graph is $K_k$-free, and its independence number is still less than $t$. Restrict to exactly $n$ vertices. Every proper colour class has at most $t-1$ vertices, and therefore \[ f_k(n)\geq\frac{n}{t-1}\gg_k\frac{n^{1-2/k}}{\log n}. \tag{2} \] This proof is independent of the deeper input below, but its exponent does not yet give $1$.
The exact external Ramsey theorem
Theorem 1.1 of D. Bradač, Off-diagonal Ramsey numbers, arXiv:2605.28793v3, dated 16 June 2026, states that for each fixed $s\geq3$ there is $c_s>0$ such that \[ R(s,t)\geq c_s\frac{t^{s-1}}{(\log t)^{2s-4}}\qquad(t\geq2). \tag{3} \] Source: https://arxiv.org/html/2605.28793v3. Version 1 had a smaller exponent; the version and formula in $3$ are essential. The construction and container estimates proving $3$ are external inputs, not reproved here.An exact-size transfer lemma
If $n<R(k,t)$, there is a $K_k$-free graph on exactly $n$ vertices with independence number less than $t$. Indeed, the definition gives such a graph on $R(k,t)-1$ vertices, and taking an induced $n$-vertex subgraph preserves both restrictions. Counting vertices in proper colour classes then gives \[ f_k(n)\geq\left\lceil\frac{n}{t-1}\right\rceil. \tag{4} \]Put $a=k-1$, $b=2k-4$, and choose $D>0$ with $c_kD^a\geq2$. For sufficiently large $n$, define \[ t=\left\lceil D n^{1/a}(\log n)^{b/a}\right\rceil. \] Then $t\leq n$, so $\log t\leq\log n$, and the ceiling gives \[ R(k,t)\geq c_k\frac{t^a}{(\log t)^b} \geq c_kD^a n\geq2n>n. \] Also $t-1<D n^{1/a}(\log n)^{b/a}$. Applying $4$ proves $1$. The spare factor two ensures the strict Ramsey inequality; a bound $R(k,t)\geq c n$ with $c<1$ would not justify $4$.
For $k=4$, this gives $f_4(n)\gg n^{2/3}/(\log n)^{4/3}$. For general $k$, one may take $c_k$ in the problem's logarithmic exponent to be $(2k-4)/(k-1)$; this exponent notation is unrelated to the positive constant named $c_k$ in $3$.
Attribution and scope
The random-deletion argument is classical, and the sharp-exponent deduction uses Bradač's explicitly stated theorem. The current problem page is https://www.erdosproblems.com/920, checked 24 September 2026. The requested statement is completely derived relative to $3$; neither that theorem nor its construction is claimed as new, and no local Lean verification is claimed.COMPLETION ESTIMATE
COMPLETION: 100%gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-5991
1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT
Fix an integer k$\ge$ 3. For n$\in\mathbb N$, let g_k(n) be the maximum possible chromatic number of a graph G on n vertices that contains no complete subgraph K_k. Equivalently, \[g_k(n):=\max\{\chi(G): |V(G)|=n,\; K_k\not\subseteq G\}.\]
Question (for k$\ge$ 4): Is there a constant c>0 (depending on k) such that \[ g_k(n) \ge C\, \frac{n^{1-\frac{1}{k-1}}}{(\log n)^c} \] for all sufficiently large n and some constant C=C(k)>0? (Here “$\gg$” in the problem statement is interpreted as a big-Omega statement with constants allowed to depend on k.)
2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
The problem statement itself records: - Upper bound (Graver–Yackel): $g_k(n) \ll \big(n\frac{\log\log n}{\log n}\big)^{1-\frac{1}{k-1}}$. - For k=3, Erdős proved $g_3(n) \gg n^{1/2}/\log n$ via a lower bound on R$3,m$; Shearer improves this to $g_3(n) \gg (n/\log n)^{1/2}$. - For k=4, a lower bound on R$4,m$ implies $g_4(n) \gg n^{2/3}/(\log n)^{4/3}$. - In general, a known lower bound $R(k,m)\gg (\log m)^{-O_k(1)} m^{(k+1)/2}$ implies $g_k(n)\gg n^{1-2/(k+1)}/(\log n)^{c_k}$.
I do not use or assert any additional external results beyond what is stated in the problem file.
3) ATTACK PLAN
Proof-track ideas (establish the conjectured lower bound): - Improve lower bounds on Ramsey numbers R(k,m) in the range relevant to forcing large chromatic number while forbidding K_k. - Construct explicit or probabilistic K_k-free graphs with small independence number and analyze their chromatic number.
Disproof-track ideas (show conjectured exponent is too optimistic): - Try to build K_k-free graphs whose chromatic number provably cannot exceed $n^{1-1/(k-1)}/(\log n)^c$, e.g. by finding large independent sets forced by the absence of K_k.
Best path: I can rigorously derive the standard Ramsey-to-chromatic-number lower bound (which matches what the statement already sketches) and verify small-n exact values by computation. The main conjectured exponent for k$\ge$ 5 remains out of reach.
4) WORK
Definition (Ramsey numbers). For integers a,b$\ge$ 2, R(a,b) is the least integer N such that every graph on N vertices contains either a clique K_a or an independent set of size b. Equivalently, for every n<R(a,b) there exists a graph on n vertices with no K_a and no independent set of size b.
Proposition 920.1 (Ramsey lower bound $\Rightarrow$ chromatic lower bound). Let k$\ge$ 2 and m$\ge$ 2. If n < R(k,m), then $g_k(n) \ge \left\lceil \frac{n}{m-1}\right\rceil$.
Proof. Assume n < R(k,m). By the defining property of R(k,m), there exists a graph G on n vertices with no K_k and with no independent set of size m. Thus every independent set in G has size at most m-1. In any proper vertex coloring of G, each color class is an independent set, hence has size at most m-1. Therefore, if G is colored with t colors, then n=|V(G)| is at most t$m-1$, i.e. \[t \ge \frac{n}{m-1}. \] Since t is an integer, $\chi(G)\ge$ $\lceil$ n/$m-1$$\rceil$. Taking the maximum over all K_k-free graphs on n vertices yields g_k(n)$\ge$ $\lceil$ n/$m-1$$\rceil$. $\square$
Proposition 920.2 (deriving the $n^{1-2/(k+1)}$ lower bound from a Ramsey bound). Fix k$\ge$ 3. Assume there exist constants A>0 and B>0 (depending only on k) such that for all integers m$\ge$ 2, \[ R(k,m) \ge A\, \frac{m^{(k+1)/2}}{(\log m)^B}. \tag{*}\] Then there exist constants C>0 and c>0 (depending only on k) such that for all sufficiently large n, \[ g_k(n) \ge C\, \frac{n^{1-2/(k+1)}}{(\log n)^c}. \]
Proof. Let n be large. Choose \[ m := \left\lfloor \left(\frac{n}{A}\right)^{2/(k+1)} (\log n)^{2B/(k+1)} \right\rfloor. \] Then m$\to\infty$ with n. For large n we have m$\ge$ 2 and also $\log$ m $\le$ $\log$ n (since m$\le$ n for k$\ge$ 3 and large n), hence $\log m$^B $\le$ $\log n$^B. Using $*$ we obtain \[ R(k,m) \ge A\, \frac{m^{(k+1)/2}}{(\log m)^B} \ge A\, \frac{m^{(k+1)/2}}{(\log n)^B}. \] By the definition of m, we have approximately $m^{(k+1)/2} \ge (n/A) (\log n)^B$ up to a bounded-factor loss from the floor. More precisely, for large n, \[ m \ge \tfrac12 \left(\frac{n}{A}\right)^{2/(k+1)} (\log n)^{2B/(k+1)}, \] so \[ m^{(k+1)/2} \ge 2^{-(k+1)/2} \left(\frac{n}{A}\right) (\log n)^B. \] Therefore \[ R(k,m) \ge A\, \frac{2^{-(k+1)/2} (n/A) (\log n)^B}{(\log n)^B} = 2^{-(k+1)/2} n. \] In particular, for large n we have R(k,m) > n. Applying Proposition 920.1 gives \[ g_k(n) \ge \left\lceil \frac{n}{m-1}\right\rceil. \] Since m is on the order of n^{2/$k+1$} $\log n$^{2B/$k+1$}, we get \[ \frac{n}{m-1} \ge c_1\, \frac{n^{1-2/(k+1)}}{(\log n)^{2B/(k+1)}} \] for some constant c_1=c_1(k,A,B)>0 and all large n. Taking C=c_1/2 and c=2B/$k+1$ gives the claimed asymptotic lower bound. $\square$
FAST REALITY CHECK (exact small values by brute force). I enumerated all graphs on n$\le$ 7 vertices, computed their chromatic number exactly by backtracking, and filtered by “no K_k”. The exact maxima found were: - For k=4: g_4$1$=1, g_4$2$=2, g_4$3$=3, g_4$4$=3, g_4$5$=3, g_4$6$=4, g_4$7$=4. - For k=5: g_5$1$=1, g_5$2$=2, g_5$3$=3, g_5$4$=4, g_5$5$=4, g_5$6$=4, g_5$7$=5.
(These are sanity checks only; the asymptotic question concerns n$\to\infty$.)
5) VERIFICATION
- Proposition 920.1: Checked that “no independent set of size m” implies every color class has size $\le$ m-1, yielding $\chi\ge$ n/$m-1$. - Proposition 920.2: Checked the only nontrivial steps are bounding $\log$ m by $\log$ n for large n and controlling the floor; both are handled by simple inequalities. - Computational check: For n$\le$ 7, exhaustive enumeration is feasible; the backtracking coloring algorithm was verified internally by consistency on complete graphs and bipartite graphs.
6) FINAL
UNRESOLVED (i) Strongest proved partial result: Assuming the Ramsey lower bound $*$ stated in the problem file (in the form $R(k,m)\gg (\log m)^{-O_k(1)} m^{(k+1)/2}$), one can rigorously derive the corresponding lower bound $g_k(n)\gg n^{1-2/(k+1)}/(\log n)^{c_k}$ via Proposition 920.1–920.2. (ii) First gap (crisp): Improve the exponent from $1-2/(k+1)$ to the conjectured $1-1/(k-1)$ (for k$\ge$ 5) up to polylogarithmic factors, or construct a K_k-free family contradicting such a bound. (iii) Top 3 next moves: 1. Target improved lower bounds for R(k,m) in the diagonal/off-diagonal regime that would imply $g_k(n)\ge n^{1-1/(k-1)}/\mathrm{polylog}(n)$ via Proposition 920.1. 2. Search for explicit K_k-free constructions with very small independence number (e.g. algebraic graphs/hypergraph-to-graph reductions) and compute their chromatic numbers. 3. Attempt a conditional disproof by proving an unconditional upper bound of the form $g_k(n)\ll n^{1-1/(k-1)}/(\log n)^{c'}$ for some c' large, then compare with existing constructions. (iv) Minimal counterexample structure: A counterexample to the conjectured lower bound would be a sequence of K_k-free graphs on n vertices whose chromatic number stays below $n^{1-1/(k-1)}/(\log n)^c$ for every fixed c>0, i.e. graphs that necessarily contain large independent sets compared to the conjectured extremal behavior.