Erdős Problem #885
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For $n\in\mathbb N$, define \[D(n):=\{ |a-b| : a,b\in\mathbb N,\ ab=n\}. \] (So $0\in D(n)$ iff $n$ is a perfect square.)
Question: For every integer $k\ge 1$, do there exist integers $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ such that \[\big|D(N_1)\cap D(N_2)\cap\cdots\cap D(N_k)\big|\ge k\ ?\]
Restatement from Math-969-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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Erdős Problem 885 --- collection record
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Original attribution:gpt_pro_5.2. Original file: attacks/erdos/gpt_pro_5.2/885.tex.For integer $n\geq 1$ we define the factor difference set of $n$ by \[D(n) = \{\lvert a-b\rvert : n=ab\}.\] Is it true that, for every $k\geq 1$, there exist integers $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ such that \[\lvert \cap_i D(N_i)\rvert \geq k?\] A question of Erdős and Rosenfeld [ErRo97], who proved this is true for $k=2$. Jiménez-Urroz [Ji99] proved this for $k=3$ and Bremner [Br19] proved this for $k=4$.
1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT
For $n\in\mathbb N$, define \[D(n):=\{ |a-b| : a,b\in\mathbb N,\ ab=n\}. \] (So $0\in D(n)$ iff $n$ is a perfect square.)
Question: For every integer $k\ge 1$, do there exist integers $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ such that \[\big|D(N_1)\cap D(N_2)\cap\cdots\cap D(N_k)\big|\ge k\ ?\]
2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
The problem statement itself reports proofs for $k=2,3,4$ (with references). Per the integrity rule, I do not add further literature. I focus on structural lemmas and explicit small-$k$ examples verified directly.
3) ATTACK PLAN
- Rewrite the condition “$d\in D(n)$” in several equivalent arithmetic forms, to expose Diophantine structure. - Provide explicit verified examples for $k=2$ and $k=3$ as a sanity check. - Attempt a small computational search for $k\ge 4$ in a bounded range (not a proof); record the outcome.
4) WORK
Lemma 885.1 (Divisor-pair description). For every $n\ge 1$, \[D(n)=\{\,\tfrac{n}{d}-d\ :\ d\mid n,\ d\le \sqrt n\,\}. \]
Proof. If $ab=n$ with $a\le b$, then $a\mid n$ and $b=n/a$, so $|a-b|=b-a=n/a-a$. Conversely, for any divisor $d\mid n$ with $d\le \sqrt n$, let $b=n/d\ge d$; then $db=n$ and $b-d\in D(n)$. This gives the stated equality of sets. $\square$
Lemma 885.2 (Quadratic form characterization). Let $n\ge 1$ and $d\ge 0$ be integers. Then \[d\in D(n)\ \Longleftrightarrow\ \exists a\in\mathbb N\text{ such that }n=a(a+d). \]
Proof. ($\Rightarrow$) If $d\in D(n)$, there exist $a,b\in\mathbb N$ with $ab=n$ and $|a-b|=d$. Without loss of generality $b\ge a$, so $b=a+d$ and $n=ab=a(a+d)$. ($\Leftarrow$) If $n=a(a+d)$ for some $a\in\mathbb N$, then $n$ has the factor pair $(a,a+d)$ and the difference of the factors is $d$, hence $d\in D(n)$. $\square$
Lemma 885.3 (Square-completion test). Let $n\ge 1$ and $d\ge 0$. Then $d\in D(n)$ if and only if there exists an integer $m$ such that \[m^2=4n+d^2\quad\text{and}\quad m\equiv d\pmod 2. \] In that case one can take $a=(m-d)/2$ in Lemma 885.2.
Proof. By Lemma 885.2, $d\in D(n)$ iff $n=a(a+d)$ for some $a\in\mathbb N$. Compute \[4n+d^2=4a(a+d)+d^2=(2a+d)^2. \] So if $d\in D(n)$, then $m:=2a+d$ satisfies $m^2=4n+d^2$ and clearly $m\equiv d\pmod 2$.
Conversely, if $m^2=4n+d^2$ and $m\equiv d\pmod2$, then $a:=(m-d)/2$ is an integer and \[a(a+d)=\frac{m-d}{2}\cdot\frac{m+d}{2}=\frac{m^2-d^2}{4}=n. \] Thus $d\in D(n)$. $\square$
FAST REALITY CHECK (explicit examples for $k=2$ and $k=3$). The following examples were found and verified by direct factor pairs.
Example for $k=2$: \[N_1=171360,\quad N_2=196560. \] Their common factor differences include $606$ and $1321$: - $196560=234\cdot 840$ and $171360=210\cdot 816$ give difference $606$. - $196560=135\cdot 1456$ and $171360=119\cdot 1440$ give difference $1321$. Hence $|D(N_1)\cap D(N_2)|\ge 2$.
Example for $k=3$: \[N_1=28560,\quad N_2=139440,\quad N_3=185640. \] Their common factor differences include $454,674,1663$: - Difference $454$: $185640=260\cdot 714$, $139440=210\cdot 664$, $28560=56\cdot 510$. - Difference $674$: $185640=210\cdot 884$, $139440=166\cdot 840$, $28560=40\cdot 714$. - Difference $1663$: $185640=105\cdot 1768$, $139440=80\cdot 1743$, $28560=17\cdot 1680$. Thus $|D(N_1)\cap D(N_2)\cap D(N_3)|\ge 3$.
Additional bounded search (not exhaustive). A backtracking search among “highly-divisible” numbers $\le 10^6$ did not find a $k=4$ instance within the tested candidate pool (this is not a contradiction to the stated $k=4$ theorem; the first known examples may occur above this range or outside the heuristic pool).
5) VERIFICATION
- Lemma 885.1: verified bijection between factor pairs $(a,b)$ with $a\le b$ and divisors $a\le \sqrt n$. - Lemma 885.3: checked parity condition is necessary so that $a=(m-d)/2$ is integral. - The explicit examples were verified by exhibiting factor pairs for each claimed difference, so membership in each $D(N_i)$ is line-by-line checked.
6) FINAL
UNRESOLVED
(i) Strongest proved partial result. - Exact equivalences for membership $d\in D(n)$ were proved (Lemmas 885.1--885.3). - Explicit verified instances exist for $k=2$ and $k=3$ (given above), matching the statements in the problem text.
(ii) First gap (crisp). Give a construction (or disproof) that for every $k$ produces distinct integers $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ and $k$ distinct integers $d_1,\dots,d_k$ such that \[\forall i\in\{1,\dots,k\}\ \forall j\in\{1,\dots,k\}\ \exists a_{i,j}\in\mathbb N\text{ with }N_i=a_{i,j}(a_{i,j}+d_j).\]
(iii) Top 3 next moves. 1. Use Lemma 885.3 to rephrase the problem as finding many $N_i$ for which $4N_i+d^2$ is a square for many common $d$; attempt to build parametric families. 2. Search computationally for a $k=5$ example to guess a pattern of differences and factor pairs, then try to prove the pattern. 3. Explore whether combining solutions of the two-difference equation $a(a+d)=b(b+e)$ (a quadratic Diophantine equation) can be iterated to force many common differences.
(iv) Minimal counterexample structure. If the conjecture fails, let $k_0$ be the smallest $k$ for which no such $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ exist. A minimal counterexample would manifest as: for every choice of $k_0$ integers, the intersection of their $D(\cdot)$ sets has size at most $k_0-1$. Such a failure would likely already appear for $k_0=5$, so computational searches for $k=5$ are structurally informative.
COMPLETION ESTIMATE
The primary source supplies no extractable numerical completion estimate. Its mathematical progress is not numerically assessed here.Newly verified progress in this collection pass: $0\%$. This measures new verification work, not the amount of mathematics achieved in the reused text.
gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-969
For integer $n\geq 1$ we define the factor difference set of $n$ by \[D(n) = \{\lvert a-b\rvert : n=ab\}.\] Is it true that, for every $k\geq 1$, there exist integers $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ such that \[\lvert \cap_i D(N_i)\rvert \geq k?\] A question of Erdős and Rosenfeld [ErRo97], who proved this is true for $k=2$. Jiménez-Urroz [Ji99] proved this for $k=3$ and Bremner [Br19] proved this for $k=4$.
1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT
For $n\in\mathbb N$, define \[D(n):=\{ |a-b| : a,b\in\mathbb N,\ ab=n\}. \] (So $0\in D(n)$ iff $n$ is a perfect square.)
Question: For every integer $k\ge 1$, do there exist integers $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ such that \[\big|D(N_1)\cap D(N_2)\cap\cdots\cap D(N_k)\big|\ge k\ ?\]
2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
The problem statement itself reports proofs for $k=2,3,4$ (with references). Per the integrity rule, I do not add further literature. I focus on structural lemmas and explicit small-$k$ examples verified directly.
3) ATTACK PLAN
- Rewrite the condition “$d\in D(n)$” in several equivalent arithmetic forms, to expose Diophantine structure. - Provide explicit verified examples for $k=2$ and $k=3$ as a sanity check. - Attempt a small computational search for $k\ge 4$ in a bounded range (not a proof); record the outcome.
4) WORK
Lemma 885.1 (Divisor-pair description). For every $n\ge 1$, \[D(n)=\{\,\tfrac{n}{d}-d\ :\ d\mid n,\ d\le \sqrt n\,\}. \]
Proof. If $ab=n$ with $a\le b$, then $a\mid n$ and $b=n/a$, so $|a-b|=b-a=n/a-a$. Conversely, for any divisor $d\mid n$ with $d\le \sqrt n$, let $b=n/d\ge d$; then $db=n$ and $b-d\in D(n)$. This gives the stated equality of sets. $\square$
Lemma 885.2 (Quadratic form characterization). Let $n\ge 1$ and $d\ge 0$ be integers. Then \[d\in D(n)\ \Longleftrightarrow\ \exists a\in\mathbb N\text{ such that }n=a(a+d). \]
Proof. ($\Rightarrow$) If $d\in D(n)$, there exist $a,b\in\mathbb N$ with $ab=n$ and $|a-b|=d$. Without loss of generality $b\ge a$, so $b=a+d$ and $n=ab=a(a+d)$. ($\Leftarrow$) If $n=a(a+d)$ for some $a\in\mathbb N$, then $n$ has the factor pair $(a,a+d)$ and the difference of the factors is $d$, hence $d\in D(n)$. $\square$
Lemma 885.3 (Square-completion test). Let $n\ge 1$ and $d\ge 0$. Then $d\in D(n)$ if and only if there exists an integer $m$ such that \[m^2=4n+d^2\quad\text{and}\quad m\equiv d\pmod 2. \] In that case one can take $a=(m-d)/2$ in Lemma 885.2.
Proof. By Lemma 885.2, $d\in D(n)$ iff $n=a(a+d)$ for some $a\in\mathbb N$. Compute \[4n+d^2=4a(a+d)+d^2=(2a+d)^2. \] So if $d\in D(n)$, then $m:=2a+d$ satisfies $m^2=4n+d^2$ and clearly $m\equiv d\pmod 2$.
Conversely, if $m^2=4n+d^2$ and $m\equiv d\pmod2$, then $a:=(m-d)/2$ is an integer and \[a(a+d)=\frac{m-d}{2}\cdot\frac{m+d}{2}=\frac{m^2-d^2}{4}=n. \] Thus $d\in D(n)$. $\square$
FAST REALITY CHECK (explicit examples for $k=2$ and $k=3$). The following examples were found and verified by direct factor pairs.
Example for $k=2$: \[N_1=171360,\quad N_2=196560. \] Their common factor differences include $606$ and $1321$: - $196560=234\cdot 840$ and $171360=210\cdot 816$ give difference $606$. - $196560=135\cdot 1456$ and $171360=119\cdot 1440$ give difference $1321$. Hence $|D(N_1)\cap D(N_2)|\ge 2$.
Example for $k=3$: \[N_1=28560,\quad N_2=139440,\quad N_3=185640. \] Their common factor differences include $454,674,1663$: - Difference $454$: $185640=260\cdot 714$, $139440=210\cdot 664$, $28560=56\cdot 510$. - Difference $674$: $185640=210\cdot 884$, $139440=166\cdot 840$, $28560=40\cdot 714$. - Difference $1663$: $185640=105\cdot 1768$, $139440=80\cdot 1743$, $28560=17\cdot 1680$. Thus $|D(N_1)\cap D(N_2)\cap D(N_3)|\ge 3$.
Additional bounded search (not exhaustive). A backtracking search among “highly-divisible” numbers $\le 10^6$ did not find a $k=4$ instance within the tested candidate pool (this is not a contradiction to the stated $k=4$ theorem; the first known examples may occur above this range or outside the heuristic pool).
5) VERIFICATION
- Lemma 885.1: verified bijection between factor pairs $(a,b)$ with $a\le b$ and divisors $a\le \sqrt n$. - Lemma 885.3: checked parity condition is necessary so that $a=(m-d)/2$ is integral. - The explicit examples were verified by exhibiting factor pairs for each claimed difference, so membership in each $D(N_i)$ is line-by-line checked.
6) FINAL
UNRESOLVED
(i) Strongest proved partial result. - Exact equivalences for membership $d\in D(n)$ were proved (Lemmas 885.1--885.3). - Explicit verified instances exist for $k=2$ and $k=3$ (given above), matching the statements in the problem text.
(ii) First gap (crisp). Give a construction (or disproof) that for every $k$ produces distinct integers $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ and $k$ distinct integers $d_1,\dots,d_k$ such that \[\forall i\in\{1,\dots,k\}\ \forall j\in\{1,\dots,k\}\ \exists a_{i,j}\in\mathbb N\text{ with }N_i=a_{i,j}(a_{i,j}+d_j).\]
(iii) Top 3 next moves. 1. Use Lemma 885.3 to rephrase the problem as finding many $N_i$ for which $4N_i+d^2$ is a square for many common $d$; attempt to build parametric families. 2. Search computationally for a $k=5$ example to guess a pattern of differences and factor pairs, then try to prove the pattern. 3. Explore whether combining solutions of the two-difference equation $a(a+d)=b(b+e)$ (a quadratic Diophantine equation) can be iterated to force many common differences.
(iv) Minimal counterexample structure. If the conjecture fails, let $k_0$ be the smallest $k$ for which no such $N_1<\cdots<N_k$ exist. A minimal counterexample would manifest as: for every choice of $k_0$ integers, the intersection of their $D(\cdot)$ sets has size at most $k_0-1$. Such a failure would likely already appear for $k_0=5$, so computational searches for $k=5$ are structurally informative.