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Math-5939

Erdős Problem #847

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Statement

Fix an infinite set $A\subset\mathbb{N}$. Assume:

$\exists\,\epsilon>0$ such that $\forall n\in\mathbb{N}_{\ge 1}$ and $\forall S\subset A$ with $|S|=n$, there exists $T\subset S$ with \[ |T|\ge \epsilon n \] and $T$ contains no three-term arithmetic progression (3AP), i.e. there do not exist distinct $x,y,z\in T$ with $x+z=2y$.

Question: Does it follow that there exists $m\ge 1$ and a covering \[ A = A_1\cup\cdots\cup A_m \] with each $A_i$ containing no 3AP?

Conventions/edge cases: - “Subset of size $n$” means $n$-element subset. - For $n\le 2$ the 3AP-free condition is automatic. - The hypothesis forces $0<\epsilon\le 1$.

Restatement from Math-5939-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.

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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-5939

Erdős Problem 847

Statement and result.
Suppose an infinite $A\subseteq\mathbb N$ has a fixed $\epsilon>0$ such that every finite $Y\subseteq A$ contains a three-term-progression-free subset of size at least $\epsilon|Y|$. Must $A$ be a finite union of progression-free sets? No. We give the finite-to-infinite construction from an explicitly stated finite theorem of Reiher, Rödl, and Sales. All arithmetic progressions below are nonconstant.
The external finite input.
Fix $0<\mu<2/3$, for example $\mu=1/2$. Theorem 1.7 of Reiher--Rödl--Sales, specialized to alphabet size three, says that for every positive integer $r$, there are a dimension $d_r$ and a finite set $X_r\subseteq\{0,1,2\}^{d_r}$ such that:
  1. Every $r$-colouring of $X_r$ contains a monochromatic combinatorial line: some nonempty set of coordinates varies simultaneously through $0,1,2$, and all other coordinates stay fixed.
  2. Every $Y\subseteq X_r$ contains $Z\subseteq Y$ of size at least $\mu|Y|$ containing no quasiline. A quasiline is a three-element set whose entries in each coordinate are either all equal or all distinct.
Their partite-construction proof of this substantial finite theorem is the external dependency. We now prove the conversion to integers, the absence of interactions between different finite pieces, and both required infinite-set properties.
Encoding the cube without carries.
Define \[ \phi_r(x_0,\ldots,x_{d_r-1})= \sum_{j=0}^{d_r-1}x_j7^j, \qquad B_r=\phi_r(X_r). \] This map is injective by uniqueness of base-seven expansions. It sends each combinatorial line to a three-term arithmetic progression: its common difference is $\sum_{j\in J}7^j>0$, where $J$ is the nonempty varying coordinate set. Thus every $r$-colouring of $B_r$ contains a monochromatic progression.

Conversely, suppose three distinct images satisfy $\phi_r(x)+\phi_r(z)=2\phi_r(y)$. Then \[ \sum_j(x_j+z_j-2y_j)7^j=0, \qquad -4\leq x_j+z_j-2y_j\leq4. \] Every coefficient must vanish. Indeed, if the largest nonzero coefficient had index $h$, its contribution would have absolute value at least $7^h$, while the sum of all lower contributions would be at most $4(7^h-1)/6<7^h$, a contradiction. So $x_j+z_j=2y_j$ for each coordinate. Within $\{0,1,2\}$, such a coordinate triple is either constant or is $(0,1,2)$ in one direction or the other. Hence the three cube points form a quasiline.

It follows that every subset of $B_r$ has a progression-free subset of at least the fraction $\mu$: pull back to $X_r$, use the quasiline-free subset supplied by the theorem, and apply $\phi_r$.

Separating the finite pieces.
We translate the $B_r$ inductively. Suppose the earlier pieces lie in $[1,M]$, and write $W=\max B_r$. Choose an integer $T>2(M+W+1)$, and put $C_r=T+B_r\subseteq[T,T+W]$. For the first piece take any $M\geq1$. The pieces are disjoint and positive.

There is no progression meeting both $C_r$ and an earlier piece. If its largest term is the only new term, the progression equation would put that term at most $2M$, below $T$. If its two largest terms are new, its smallest term would be at least $2T-(T+W)=T-W>M$. Both alternatives are impossible. Every progression in the union of all pieces has a largest piece index, so the same argument shows that it is wholly contained in one piece.

Set $A=\bigcup_{r\geq1}C_r$. This is an infinite subset of $\mathbb N$. If $Y\subseteq A$ is finite, choose inside each $Y\cap C_r$ a progression-free subset of size at least $\mu|Y\cap C_r|$. Their union is progression-free because there are no mixed progressions, and its size is at least $\mu|Y|$.

If $A$ had a partition into $r$ progression-free sets, that partition would give an $r$-colouring of $C_r$. The finite Ramsey property of $B_r$, preserved by translation, would give a monochromatic progression, a contradiction. Thus no finite partition exists.

Attribution and assessment.
The underlying finite theorem and the negative resolution are due to C. Reiher, V. Rödl, and M. Sales, Colouring versus density in integers and Hales--Jewett cubes, Theorem 1.7, https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08556. The proof above is a complete deduction of the requested infinite counterexample relative to that explicitly stated input; it does not reproduce the input's partite construction. The source actually permits every $\mu<2/3$; $\mu=1/2$ already suffices here. See https://www.erdosproblems.com/847, checked 24 September 2026. No novelty or local Lean verification is claimed.

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gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-5939

Let $A\subset \mathbb{N}$ be an infinite set for which there exists some $\epsilon>0$ such that in any subset of $A$ of size $n$ there is a subset of size at least $\epsilon n$ which contains no three-term arithmetic progression. Is it true that $A$ is the union of a finite number of sets which contain no three-term arithmetic progression? A problem of Erdős, Nešetřil, and Rödl. See also [774] and [846] .

1) “FORMAL RESTATEMENT”

Fix an infinite set $A\subset\mathbb{N}$. Assume:

$\exists\,\epsilon>0$ such that $\forall n\in\mathbb{N}_{\ge 1}$ and $\forall S\subset A$ with $|S|=n$, there exists $T\subset S$ with \[ |T|\ge \epsilon n \] and $T$ contains no three-term arithmetic progression (3AP), i.e. there do not exist distinct $x,y,z\in T$ with $x+z=2y$.

Question: Does it follow that there exists $m\ge 1$ and a covering \[ A = A_1\cup\cdots\cup A_m \] with each $A_i$ containing no 3AP?

Conventions/edge cases: - “Subset of size $n$” means $n$-element subset. - For $n\le 2$ the 3AP-free condition is automatic. - The hypothesis forces $0<\epsilon\le 1$.

2) “QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK”

The problem statement provides no theorems to use directly, only cross-references. In this write-up I do not invoke external literature beyond what is explicitly stated in the problem text.

3) “ATTACK PLAN”

Proof-track ideas: - Interpret 3APs as edges of a $3$-uniform hypergraph $\mathcal{H}_{\mathrm{3AP}}(A)$ on vertex set $A$. The hypothesis says every induced subhypergraph on $n$ vertices has an independent set of size $\ge \epsilon n$. Try to show bounded chromatic number. - Try to exploit arithmetic structure: perhaps the hereditary large-independent-set condition forces strong regularity that implies finite coloring.

Disproof/construction ideas: - Try to construct an infinite $A$ by pasting together finite blocks $B_j$ with growing chromatic number in the 3AP-hypergraph, while maintaining a uniform lower bound $\alpha(S)\ge \epsilon|S|$ on independent sets in all induced subhypergraphs.

Best current path in this write-up: record structural consequences and what can already be proved (notably an $O(\log n)$ decomposition for finite subsets), and run small-case computations on intervals as a sanity check.

4) “WORK”

FAST REALITY CHECK (small $n$): - If $A$ contains a 3-term arithmetic progression $\{x,y,z\}$, then for $n=3$ that subset has largest 3AP-free subset of size $2$, so the hypothesis forces $3\epsilon\le 2$, i.e. $\epsilon\le 2/3$.

Lemma 847.1 (Finite union $\Rightarrow$ hereditary linear 3AP-free subset). If $A=\bigcup_{i=1}^m A_i$ where each $A_i$ is 3AP-free, then the hypothesis holds with $\epsilon=1/m$.

Proof. Let $S\subset A$ be any $n$-element subset. Then $S=\bigcup_{i=1}^m (S\cap A_i)$. By pigeonhole, some $i$ satisfies $|S\cap A_i|\ge n/m$. Taking $T:=S\cap A_i$ gives a 3AP-free subset of size at least $(1/m)n$. $\square$

Lemma 847.2 (Logarithmic coloring bound for finite subsets). Assume the hypothesis with parameter $\epsilon>0$. Then for every finite $S\subset A$ with $|S|=n\ge 1$, there exists a partition \[ S = S_1\cup\cdots\cup S_t \] with each $S_j$ 3AP-free and \[ t \le 1+\left\lceil \frac{\log n}{\log(1/(1-\epsilon))}\right\rceil. \]

Proof. This is the same greedy-removal argument as in Lemma 846.3, using the hypothesis to remove at each step a 3AP-free subset of size at least an $\epsilon$-fraction of the remaining set. Each removal step shrinks the remainder by a factor at most $(1-\epsilon)$, so after $t$ steps the remainder has size at most $(1-\epsilon)^t n$. Taking $t$ minimal with $(1-\epsilon)^t n<1$ yields an empty remainder and the stated bound on $t$. $\square$

Lemma 847.3 (A universal upper bound on 3AP-free density inside a consecutive block). Let $m\ge 1$ and let $I=\{a,a+1,\dots,a+m-1\}$ be $m$ consecutive integers. Then any 3AP-free subset $T\subset I$ satisfies \[ |T|\le \left\lceil \frac{2m}{3}\right\rceil. \]

Proof. Partition $I$ into disjoint blocks of three consecutive integers: \[ \{a,a+1,a+2\},\ \{a+3,a+4,a+5\},\ \dots \] and possibly one final block of size $1$ or $2$ (if $m\not\equiv 0\pmod 3$). In each full block of three consecutive integers, at most two elements of $T$ can lie in the block, because three consecutive integers form a 3-term arithmetic progression with common difference $1$.

If $m=3q+r$ with $r\in\{0,1,2\}$, there are $q$ full blocks and one leftover block of size $r$. Therefore $|T|\le 2q+r=\lceil 2m/3\rceil$. $\square$

FAST REALITY CHECK (explicit computation on $\{1,2,\dots,m\}$): Using brute force enumeration for $m\le 22$, the maximum size $f(m)$ of a 3AP-free subset of $\{1,2,\dots,m\}$ is: \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccccccccccccccccc} m & 1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8&9&10&11&12&13&14&15&16&17&18&19&20&21&22\\\hline f(m) & 1&2&2&3&4&4&4&4&5&5&6&6&7&8&8&8&8&8&8&9&9&9 \end{array} \] In particular, inside a length-$m$ arithmetic progression, one cannot always extract more than about $f(m)/m$ fraction of points without creating a 3AP (for these small $m$).

5) “VERIFICATION”

- Lemma 847.2 is a direct specialization of Lemma 846.3 and uses only the given hypothesis. - Lemma 847.3 is valid because a 3AP-free set must in particular avoid the 3APs with difference $1$. - The computed table is a finite exhaustive check for $m\le 22$; it is only sanity evidence and does not by itself imply asymptotic bounds. - As in Problem 846, Lemma 847.2 gives only $O_\epsilon(\log n)$ parts for an $n$-element subset, not a uniform finite bound for all of $A$.

6) FINAL

UNRESOLVED (i) Strongest fully proved partial result: Any finite union of 3AP-free sets satisfies the hypothesis with $\epsilon=1/m$ (Lemma 847.1). Under the hypothesis, every finite $n$-element subset of $A$ can be partitioned into $O_\epsilon(\log n)$ 3AP-free subsets (Lemma 847.2). Also, any 3AP-free subset of a block of $m$ consecutive integers has size at most $\lceil 2m/3\rceil$ (Lemma 847.3). (ii) First gap (crisp): Prove (or disprove) that the hereditary linear independent-set condition for the 3AP hypergraph on $A$ implies a uniform bound $m=m(\epsilon)$ such that $A$ can be covered by $m$ 3AP-free sets. (iii) Top 3 next moves: 1. Attempt a finite counterexample scheme: find finite sets $B_j\subset\mathbb{N}$ with $\alpha(H[B_j])\ge \epsilon|B_j|$ for all induced subhypergraphs but with chromatic number $\chi(H[B_j])\to\infty$, where $H$ is the 3AP hypergraph; then paste blocks far apart to form an infinite counterexample. 2. Seek a “ $\chi$-boundedness ” theorem for the 3AP hypergraph in terms of the hereditary independence ratio (an arithmetic analogue of graph parameters like the Hall ratio). 3. Extend computations: for structured finite sets (intervals, unions of arithmetic progressions, random sets) empirically estimate the ratio between maximum 3AP-free subset size and the minimum number of 3AP-free parts needed. (iv) Minimal counterexample structure: An infinite set $A\subset\mathbb{N}$ that decomposes into finite blocks $B_j$ (well-separated so cross-block 3APs are controlled) with chromatic number in the 3AP hypergraph growing with $j$, while still enforcing a uniform lower bound $\alpha(S)\ge \epsilon|S|$ for every finite $S\subset A$.

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