Erdős Problem #739
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Attempt dated 2026-09-23. If a graph $G$ has infinite chromatic number $\mathfrak m$, must it have a subgraph of chromatic number exactly $\mathfrak n$ for every infinite cardinal $\mathfrak n<\mathfrak m$? Edges may be deleted: "subgraph" does not mean "induced subgraph".
The current page [1] labels the question NOT PROVABLE. Komjáth [2] proves consistency of an $\aleph_2$-chromatic graph with no $\aleph_1$-chromatic subgraph. The live page leaves the general assertion under GCH open, and records a positive constructibility result for the $\aleph_2,\aleph_1$ case. An unconditional proof would conflict with the known consistency obstruction. This attempt therefore proves the countable-target case and examines, with complete proofs, why an induced-subgraph construction does not settle the ordinary-subgraph question.
Restatement from Math-5857-A1 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-5857
Problem 739: countable extraction and a precise induced-subgraph barrier
1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT AND CURRENT STATUS
Attempt dated 2026-09-23. If a graph $G$ has infinite chromatic number $\mathfrak m$, must it have a subgraph of chromatic number exactly $\mathfrak n$ for every infinite cardinal $\mathfrak n<\mathfrak m$? Edges may be deleted: "subgraph" does not mean "induced subgraph".The current page [1] labels the question NOT PROVABLE. Komjáth [2] proves consistency of an $\aleph_2$-chromatic graph with no $\aleph_1$-chromatic subgraph. The live page leaves the general assertion under GCH open, and records a positive constructibility result for the $\aleph_2,\aleph_1$ case. An unconditional proof would conflict with the known consistency obstruction. This attempt therefore proves the countable-target case and examines, with complete proofs, why an induced-subgraph construction does not settle the ordinary-subgraph question.
2) THE COUNTABLE TARGET
Proposition 1. Every graph of infinite chromatic number contains a countable induced subgraph of chromatic number $\aleph_0$.Proof. For each positive integer $r$, some finite subgraph $F_r$ has chromatic number exceeding $r$. To justify this, suppose every finite subgraph were $r$-colourable. In the compact product $\{1,\ldots,r\}^{V(G)}$, each edge prescribes a closed set of assignments assigning different colours to its endpoints. Every finite collection of these constraints is satisfiable, so compactness gives an $r$-colouring of $G$, a contradiction. Let $X=\bigcup_{r\ge1}V(F_r)$. Then $X$ is countable and $G[X]$ contains every $F_r$, hence has no finite colouring. Giving each vertex its own colour proves $\chi(G[X])\le\aleph_0$, yielding equality.$\square$
This is a standard consequence of finite-colour compactness, not a claimed new solution. In the stated problem it settles $\mathfrak n=\aleph_0$ whenever $\mathfrak m>\aleph_0$.
3) THE SHIFT TRANSFORM FOR ARBITRARY EDGE SETS
Let $(S,<)$ be a linearly ordered set and let $X\subseteq[S]^2$. Write $G_X=(S,X)$. Define $H_X$ to have vertex set $X$, with an edge between $\{a,b\}$ and $\{b,c\}$ whenever $a<b<c$ and both pairs belong to $X$.Lemma 2. For any infinite cardinal $\lambda$, \[ \chi(H_X)\le\lambda\quad\Longleftrightarrow\quad\chi(G_X)\le2^\lambda.\tag{1} \] This is the standard shift-transform argument behind Galvin's induced-subgraph obstruction [3]; both directions are proved here.
Forward direction. Let $q:X\to\lambda$ properly colour $H_X$. For $a\in S$ put \[ B_a=\{q(\{a,b\}):a<b,\ \{a,b\}\in X\}. \] If $\{a,b\}\in X$ with $a<b$, then $q(\{a,b\})\in B_a$. This colour does not belong to $B_b$, since every vertex $\{b,c\}\in X$ with $b<c$ is adjacent to $\{a,b\}$ in $H_X$. Thus $B_a\ne B_b$. The map $a\mapsto B_a\in\mathcal P(\lambda)$ is a proper $2^\lambda$-colouring of $G_X$.
Reverse direction. Let $a\mapsto f_a\in2^\lambda$ be a proper colouring of $G_X$. Adjacent $a,b$ receive distinct binary functions, so for $\{a,b\}\in X$ with $a<b$ the ordinal \[ d(a,b)=\min\{\xi<\lambda:f_a(\xi)\ne f_b(\xi)\} \] exists. Colour the vertex $\{a,b\}$ of $H_X$ by $(d(a,b),f_a(d(a,b)))$. For adjacent vertices $\{a,b\},\{b,c\}$, different $d$'s separate their colours; if the $d$'s agree at $\xi$, then $f_a(\xi)\ne f_b(\xi)$ separates their second entries. The palette has cardinal $2\cdot\lambda=\lambda$. This proves $1$.$\square$
4) A COMPLETE CONDITIONAL OBSTRUCTION, AND ITS LIMIT
Proposition 3 (the induced version). Suppose infinite cardinals $\lambda<\kappa$ satisfy $2^\lambda=2^\kappa$. There is a graph $H$ with $\chi(H)>\kappa$ and no induced subgraph of chromatic number exactly $\kappa$.Proof. Well-order a set $S$ of size $(2^\kappa)^+$ and let $H=H_{[S]^2}$. Since $G_{[S]^2}$ is the complete graph on $S$, Lemma 2 gives $\chi(H)>\kappa$. Every induced subgraph of $H$ has the form $H_X$ for some $X\subseteq[S]^2$. If $H_X$ is $\kappa$-colourable, $1$ gives \[ \chi(G_X)\le2^\kappa=2^\lambda, \] and applying $1$ again gives $\chi(H_X)\le\lambda<\kappa$. Thus no induced subgraph has chromatic number $\kappa$.$\square$
This does not settle problem 739: an arbitrary subgraph on vertex set $X$ may omit edges of $H_X$. Its $\kappa$-colouring need not properly colour $H_X$, so the forward implication in $1$ cannot be applied. Specifically, if an edge joining $\{a,b\}$ to $\{b,c\}$ is removed, those vertices may receive the same colour, and the proof that $q(\{a,b\})\notin B_b$ fails. That is the exact obstruction to extending this elementary proof to ordinary subgraphs. Moreover, GCH excludes the assumed equality $2^\lambda=2^\kappa$, so this construction gives no answer to the remaining GCH question.
5) A LOCAL REFLECTION REDUCTION
There is also a useful criterion for targets obtainable on few vertices. For any infinite cardinal $\nu$, the following are equivalent: \begin{align*} &\text{some }X\subseteq V(G),\ |X|\le\nu,\text{ satisfies }\chi(G[X])=\nu;\tag{2}\\ &\text{for every cardinal }\rho<\nu\text{ there is }X_\rho\subseteq V(G),\ |X_\rho|\le\nu, \text{ with }\chi(G[X_\rho])>\rho.\tag{3} \end{align*} Certainly $2$ implies $3$. Conversely there are at most $\nu$ cardinals below $\nu$. Taking the union of the witnesses in $3$ gives a set $X$ of size at most $\nu\cdot\nu=\nu$. Its induced graph has chromatic number exceeding every cardinal below $\nu$, and at most $\nu$ by its vertex count, proving $2$.Consequently, if $G$ has no subgraph at all of chromatic number $\nu$, then there is a single $\rho<\nu$ such that every induced subgraph on at most $\nu$ vertices is $\rho$-colourable. The converse is not asserted: a subgraph of chromatic number $\nu$ might require more than $\nu$ vertices. This reduction isolates a necessary local failure of reflection for any counterexample, including limit targets.
6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION
Finite-colour compactness in Proposition 1 uses a finite compact palette. An infinite discrete palette is not compact, so the same proof cannot be used for $\aleph_1$ or larger targets. Lemma 2 applies to all $X$, including empty edge sets and vertices with no outgoing edges. Its upper bound needs the extra bit in the colour. Proposition 3 excludes induced subgraphs only. Criterion $2$--$3$ controls vertex size and explicitly does not assume that chromatic number equals vertex cardinality in an arbitrary subgraph.7) FINAL
UNRESOLVED. The countable target is established, the known induced-subgraph obstruction is proved with its exact limitation, and a local reflection criterion is derived. None of these proves or refutes ordinary-subgraph interpolation for uncountable targets under GCH. No novelty is claimed for the standard constructions or their elementary consequences.8) SOURCES CHECKED
[1] T. F. Bloom, current statement and editorial status of Erdős problem 739, https://www.erdosproblems.com/739, fetched directly on 2026-09-23.[2] P. Komjáth, Consistency results on infinite graphs, Israel Journal of Mathematics 61 $1988$, 285--294, https://doi.org/10.1007/BF02772573. The paper's abstract and introduction were checked in the available scanned original, https://electronicsandbooks.com/edt/manual/Magazine/I/Israel%20Journal%20of%20Mathematics%20IS/1988/61_3/fulltext04.pdf. They distinguish the ordinary and induced subgraph obstructions explicitly.
[3] F. Galvin, Chromatic numbers of subgraphs, Periodica Mathematica Hungarica 4 $1973$, 117--119, https://doi.org/10.1007/BF02276099. Attribution and bibliographic context are corroborated by [2]; the full text of [3] was not available in this check. The shift-transform argument needed here is supplied completely above.