Erdős Problem #68
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Define the real number \[ S:=\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1}. \] (Each term is well-defined since $n!-1\neq 0$ for $n\ge 2$.) Question: is $S$ irrational?
Restatement from Math-662-A3 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-662
Erdős Problem 68: factorial-minus-one denominators
1. Statement and scope
Is $S=\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}(n!-1)^{-1}$ irrational? This attempt proves a sharp elementary tail enclosure and identifies an obstruction to the most direct denominator-clearing argument. Irrationality remains unresolved.2. Convergence, expansion and tail enclosure
Since $(n!-1)^{-1}\le2/n!$, the series converges. Expanding geometrically and using nonnegativity gives \[ S=\sum_{n\ge2}\sum_{j\ge1}\frac1{(n!)^j} =\sum_{j\ge1}\sum_{n\ge2}\frac1{(n!)^j}. \] Let $s_N=\sum_{n=2}^N(n!-1)^{-1}$ and $T_N=S-s_N$. For $N\ge2$, the first omitted term and the factorial geometric-tail bound imply \[ \frac1{(N+1)!-1}<T_N\le \frac{N+2}{(N+1)((N+1)!-1)}=:U_N. \tag{1} \] Indeed, for all $n\ge N+1$, $(n!-1)^{-1}\le(1-1/(N+1)!)^{-1}/n!$, and $\sum_{n\ge N+1}1/n!\le (N+2)/((N+1)(N+1)!)$. In particular $T_N=(1+O(1/N))/(N+1)!$. Equation $1$ is a rational, rigorous enclosure, requiring no floating-point assertion about $S$.3. Consecutive denominators are coprime
For $D_n=n!-1$, \[ D_{n+1}-(n+1)D_n=n, \qquad \gcd(D_n,n)=1, \] so $\gcd(D_n,D_{n+1})=1$. More generally, if $m<n$ and $P=(m+1)\cdots n$, then \[ \gcd(D_m,D_n)=\gcd(D_m,P-1), \] by subtracting $P D_m$ from $D_n$. Let $L_N=\operatorname{lcm}(D_2,\ldots,D_N)$. For $N\ge3$, \[ L_N\ge D_{N-1}D_N, \qquad L_N T_N>\frac{((N-1)!-1)(N!-1)}{(N+1)!-1}\longrightarrow\infty. \tag{2} \] Thus the natural multiplier which certainly clears the partial-sum denominators does not produce a small tail. If one additionally multiplies by a hypothetical rational denominator $q$, the tail is still not small. This rules out that particular adaptation of the usual proof of irrationality of $e$; it does not rule out a more selective multiplier or cancellation method.4. What reduced denominators would have to do
Write $s_N=A_N/B_N$ in lowest terms. If $S=p/q$ were rational, positivity of $T_N$ would imply \[ T_N=\frac{pB_N-qA_N}{qB_N}\ge\frac1{qB_N}, \quad\text{hence}\quad B_N\ge\frac1{qU_N} =\frac{(N+1)((N+1)!-1)}{q(N+2)}. \tag{3} \] Therefore proving $B_N/(N+1)!\to0$ along any subsequence would prove irrationality. No such subsequence is established here. The growth of $L_N$ in $2$ does not by itself imply a lower bound of that size for $B_N$, because cancellation in the numerator can reduce the denominator. Keeping those two denominators distinct is essential.5. Assessment and attribution
The expansion, tail interval, gcd identities and the conditional test $3$ are proved. They isolate the denominator-control gap but do not exclude any fixed rational $p/q$ for all possible $q$. This revises earlier GPT-5.2 partial attempts; the double-series observation is credited to Weisenberg on the problem page. No numerical search or irrationality claim is made. Source: https://www.erdosproblems.com/68.Completion rate estimate: 10%.
gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-662
FORMAL RESTATEMENT. Define the real number \[ S:=\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1}. \] (Each term is well-defined since $n!-1\neq 0$ for $n\ge 2$.) Question: is $S$ irrational?
QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK. The problem statement notes: (i) the decimal expansion is OEIS A331373; (ii) Weisenberg observed the identity $\sum_{n\ge2}\frac{1}{n!-1}=\sum_{k\ge1}\sum_{n\ge2}\frac{1}{(n!)^k}$; (iii) Erdős noted (in the cited source) that $\sum \frac{1}{n!+t}$ should be transcendental for each integer $t$. No additional literature claims are used here.
ATTACK PLAN. Proof track ideas. $1$ Try to adapt the classical irrationality proof of $e=\sum_{n\ge0}1/n!$ (multiply by $N!$ and analyze a tiny tail), but denominators $n!-1$ do not divide $N!$. $2$ Use the double-series expansion to view $S$ as a sum of rapidly convergent "factorial-power" series and attempt a Cantor-series/Engel-series style irrationality criterion.
Disproof track ideas. $1$ Attempt to detect a rational relation by computing many digits / continued fraction and searching for a very small denominator; this cannot prove rationality, but may guide structure.
I did not reach an irrationality proof or a rationality counterexample; below are problem-specific lemmas and computations.
WORK.
Lemma 68.1 (geometric-series expansion). For every integer $n\ge 2$, \[ \frac{1}{n!-1}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(n!)^k}. \] Consequently, \[ S=\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1}=\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(n!)^k}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(n!)^k}, \] with absolute convergence justifying the interchange of sums.
Proof. For $n\ge 2$ we have $0<1/n!\le 1/2$. Then \[ \frac{1}{n!-1}=\frac{1}{n!\,(1-1/n!)}=\frac{1}{n!}\cdot\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\Big(\frac{1}{n!}\Big)^k =\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(n!)^k}, \] where we used the geometric-series identity $1/(1-x)=\sum_{k\ge0}x^k$ valid for $\lvert x\rvert<1$.
For the double sum, note that \[ \sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\Big\lvert\frac{1}{(n!)^k}\Big\rvert =\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(n!)^k} =\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1} <\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\frac{2}{n!}<\infty, \] so the series is absolutely convergent and Fubini/Tonelli applies to swap summations. This proves the lemma.$\square$
Lemma 68.2 (explicit tail bound). For every integer $N\ge 2$, \[ 0<\sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1} <\frac{4}{(N+1)!}. \]
Proof. For $n\ge 2$ we have $n!-1\ge \frac12 n!$ (since $n!\ge 2$), hence \[\frac{1}{n!-1}\le \frac{2}{n!}.\] Therefore \[ \sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1} \le 2\sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!} =\frac{2}{(N+1)!}\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(N+2)(N+3)\cdots (N+1+j)}. \] For each $j\ge 0$, the denominator $(N+2)(N+3)\cdots(N+1+j)$ is at least $(N+2)^j$, so \[ \sum_{j=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(N+2)(N+3)\cdots (N+1+j)} \le \sum_{j=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(N+2)^j}=\frac{1}{1-1/(N+2)}=\frac{N+2}{N+1}. \] Thus \[ \sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1} \le \frac{2}{(N+1)!}\cdot\frac{N+2}{N+1} <\frac{4}{(N+1)!} \] for all $N\ge 2$. Positivity is clear termwise.$\square$
FAST REALITY CHECK (computation). Using 80-digit arithmetic, I evaluated partial sums and a high-precision estimate:
- Partial sum through $n=24$: \[ \sum_{n=2}^{24}\frac{1}{n!-1} \approx 1.25349875569995347164336087086146605027663723112268710688\dots \]
- A direct high-precision summation (mpmath) gives \[ S\approx 1.25349875569995347164336093790579894036923220833201341706\dots \]
- The difference between the $n\le 24$ partial sum and the high-precision estimate is about \[6.7\times 10^{-26},\] consistent with Lemma 68.2 (for $N=24$, the tail bound $4/25!\approx 1.34\times 10^{-25}$).
- Continued fraction initial segment (for sanity checking only): \[[1, 3, 1, 17, 8, 1, 4, 3, 2, 2, 2, 1, \dots].\]
VERIFICATION.
- Lemma 68.1: checked algebraic identity $1/(n!-1)=(1/n!)/(1-1/n!)$ and geometric series for $\lvert 1/n!\rvert<1$.
- Lemma 68.2: verified each inequality and the comparison of the factorial tail by a geometric series with ratio $1/(N+2)$.
- Computation: the tail estimate and the observed numerical difference match in order of magnitude.
FINAL: UNRESOLVED.
- (i) Strongest proved partial result. The identity $\frac{1}{n!-1}=\sum_{k\ge1}1/(n!)^k$ holds termwise and yields the absolutely convergent double-series representation of $S$ (Lemma 68.1). The remainder after $N$ terms satisfies an explicit bound $<4/(N+1)!$ (Lemma 68.2).
- (ii) First gap (crisp). Prove that no rational $p/q$ equals $S$, i.e. \[S\neq p/q\quad\text{for all integers }p,q\ (q\ge1).\] A concrete route would be: for each $q$, show there exists $N$ such that $\big\lVert q\sum_{n=2}^{N}\frac{1}{n!-1}\big\rVert$ is bounded away from the tail error, forcing $qS$ to have nonzero distance to the integers.
- (iii) Top 3 next moves. $1$ Multiply $S$ by a structured integer (e.g. a product of $(n!-1)$ up to some cutoff) and try to force a contradiction via congruences/modular reductions. $2$ Exploit Lemma 68.1 to express $S$ in a "factorial-Cantor" expansion and seek a general irrationality criterion for expansions with bases $n!$. $3$ Extend computation: compute many continued-fraction convergents and check whether any convergent denominator interacts unusually with the factorial-minus-one structure (guiding a modular argument).
- (iv) Minimal counterexample structure. If $S$ were rational, say $S=p/q$, then the extremely small tails (Lemma 68.2) would force the partial sums to be extraordinarily close to $p/q$ with error $\ll 1/(N!)$. Any disproof strategy would likely need to show that such "too-good" approximations cannot persist because the denominators $n!-1$ are not compatible with a fixed $q$ modulo many integers.
gpt 5.2 attempt on Math-662
OUTPUT 1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT Definitions/Conventions. Let \[S:=\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1},\] which converges absolutely.
Question. Is $S$ irrational?
2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK Web browsing is not available in this session. From the problem text only: - Weisenberg observed the identity $S=\sum_{k\ge 1}\sum_{n\ge 2}(n!)^{-k}$. - Erdős noted related series $\sum 1/(n!+t)$ should be transcendental. I do not claim any further known results.
3) ATTACK PLAN Proof track ideas: 1. Try to adapt standard irrationality arguments for rapidly convergent series: assume $S=p/q$, multiply by a carefully chosen integer (e.g. $N!$ or an lcm) and derive a contradiction by bounding the fractional part. 2. Use the geometric-series expansion $1/(n!-1)=\sum_{k\ge 1} (n!)^{-k}$ to rewrite $S$ in a form amenable to factorial-base expansions.
Disproof track ideas: 1. Produce an exact rational closed form by telescoping or expressing $1/(n!-1)$ as a difference of rational terms with factorial denominators (seems unlikely).
Chosen path in this attempt: prove two basic, fully rigorous identities/bounds and compute a high-precision numerical value to support sanity, but I do not reach irrationality.
4) WORK Lemma 1 (Geometric-series expansion). For every integer $n\ge 2$, \[\frac{1}{n!-1}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(n!)^k}.\]
Proof. For $n\ge 2$, we have $n!\ge 2$, so $|1/n!|<1$. Compute \[\frac{1}{n!-1}=\frac{1}{n!\left(1-\frac{1}{n!}\right)}=\frac{1}{n!}\cdot \frac{1}{1-\frac{1}{n!}}.\] Since $|1/n!|<1$, the geometric series converges: \[\frac{1}{1-\frac{1}{n!}}=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{n!}\right)^k.\] Multiplying by $1/n!$ gives \[\frac{1}{n!-1}=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(n!)^{k+1}}=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(n!)^k}.\square\]
Lemma 2 (A concrete tail bound). For every $N\ge 2$, \[\sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1}\ <\ \frac{2(N+2)}{(N+1)!(N+1)}.\]
Proof. For $n\ge 2$ we have $n!-1\ge \tfrac12 n!$, hence \[\frac{1}{n!-1}\le \frac{2}{n!}.\] Therefore \[\sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1}\le 2\sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!}.\] Now factor out $(N+1)!$: \[\sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!}=\frac{1}{(N+1)!}\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(N+2)(N+3)\cdots(N+1+j)}.\] For each $j\ge 1$, the denominator is at least $(N+2)^j$, hence \[\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(N+2)(N+3)\cdots(N+1+j)}\le 1+\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(N+2)^j}=\frac{1}{1-\frac{1}{N+2}}=\frac{N+2}{N+1}.\] Thus \[\sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!}\le \frac{1}{(N+1)!}\cdot\frac{N+2}{N+1},\] and multiplying by $2$ gives the stated tail bound. $\square$
FAST REALITY CHECK (numerics). Using high precision arithmetic, the partial sum up to $n=20$ is \[\sum_{n=2}^{20}\frac{1}{n!-1}\approx 1.2534987556999534716228579572195523287580046561.\] Lemma 2 with $N=20$ gives a tail bound \[\sum_{n\ge 21}\frac{1}{n!-1}<4.11\times 10^{-20}.\] So the displayed decimal is correct to at least $19$ decimal places.
5) VERIFICATION - Lemma 1 is a direct geometric-series manipulation and is valid because $|1/n!|<1$ for $n\ge 2$. - Lemma 2 uses only the inequality $n!-1\ge \tfrac12 n!$ and a simple domination of the factorial tail by a geometric series. - The numerical value is consistent with the rigorous tail bound.
6) FINAL UNRESOLVED
(i) Strongest fully proved partial result: I proved the exact expansion $\frac{1}{n!-1}=\sum_{k\ge 1}(n!)^{-k}$ (Lemma 1) and a very strong explicit tail bound (Lemma 2), which yields high-precision control of the value of the series from modest partial sums.
(ii) First gap: Turn the rapid convergence and factorial structure into an irrationality proof: show that no rational $p/q$ can match the value because after multiplying by a suitable integer, the fractional part cannot be both nonzero and arbitrarily small.
(iii) Top 3 next moves (concrete): 1. Attempt a rational-contradiction argument: assume $S=p/q$, choose $M$ divisible by many $(n!-1)$, and bound $|MS-\mathrm{round}(MS)|$ from above (via Lemma 2) and below (via a congruence obstruction). 2. Explore factorial-base expansions using Lemma 1: rewrite $S$ as $\sum_{n,k}(n!)^{-k}$ and try to show that the factorial digits cannot eventually become periodic (a standard signature of rationality). 3. Investigate whether known irrationality criteria for series of rational terms (e.g. Engel/Lüroth-type expansions) can be adapted to denominators $n!-1$.
(iv) What a minimal counterexample would likely look like (structure/parameters): If $S$ were rational, then there would exist integers $p,q$ such that for all large $N$, the quantity $q\sum_{n=N+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n!-1}$ would have to cancel exactly the fractional part of $q\sum_{n=2}^{N}\frac{1}{n!-1}$. Given Lemma 2 makes the tail extremely small, this would force extraordinarily rigid congruence relations among the partial sums mod $1$, suggesting that any rationality proof would need a hidden telescoping/congruence structure in $(n!-1)^{-1}$ that is not apparent.