Erdős Problem #655
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Fix $n\in\mathbb{N}$ and distinct points $x_1,\dots,x_n\in\mathbb{R}^2$.
- Convention: a circle with center $x_i$ means the set $\{y\in\mathbb{R}^2: \|y-x_i\|=\rho\}$ for some radius $\rho>0$ (not the closed disk).
- Hypothesis ("no centered circle contains three other points"): for every $i\in\{1,\dots,n\}$ and every radius $\rho>0$, the circle centered at $x_i$ of radius $\rho$ contains at most two points of $\{x_1,\dots,x_n\}\setminus\{x_i\}$. Equivalently, \[ \forall i\ \forall \rho>0:\quad \left|\{j\neq i: \|x_i-x_j\|=\rho\}\right|\le 2. \]
- Let the distance set \[ D(x_1,\dots,x_n):=\{\|x_i-x_j\|: 1\le i<j\le n\}, \] and write $|D|$ for its cardinality.
Question (as written): Does there exist an absolute constant $c>0$ and an $n_0\in\mathbb{N}$ such that for all $n\ge n_0$ and all point sets satisfying the hypothesis, \[ |D(x_1,\dots,x_n)|\ \ge\ (1+c)\frac{n}{2}\ ? \]
Restatement from Math-5797-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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gpt pro 5.4 attempt on Math-5797
Erdős problems #655, #738, #740 --- Round 2 continuation
Problem #655
1) ROUND-2 OBJECTIVE
Path (C): turn the Round-1 disproof into the exact corrected statement. Round 1 already produced a regular $n$-gon counterexample, so the natural gap to close is the sharp lower bound that actually follows from the stated hypothesis.2) Round-1 FOUNDATION USED
I use the following vetted Round-1 fact.The regular $n$-gon satisfies the hypothesis of the problem and determines exactly $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ distinct distances. Therefore the claimed bound $(1+c)n/2$ is false for every fixed $c>0$.
I do not re-prove that counterexample here.
3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND-2)
The hypothesis controls the multiplicity of each radius around a fixed point. If one fixes a point $x_i$, then among the $n-1$ distances from $x_i$ to the other points, each distinct value can occur at most twice. Therefore $x_i$ itself determines at least $\lceil (n-1)/2\rceil$ distinct distances. Since these are all global interpoint distances, the whole configuration determines at least that many distinct distances.Combined with the Round-1 regular $n$-gon construction, this gives the exact optimum.
4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND-2)
The only remaining gap after Round 1 is to identify the best possible lower bound replacing the false inequality \[ |D|\geq (1+c)\frac n2. \] I will prove the sharp correction \[ |D|\geq \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor, \] and then use the Round-1 regular $n$-gon to show equality is attainable for every $n$.5) WORK (ROUND-2)
Let $x_1,\dots,x_n$ be distinct points in the plane satisfying the hypothesis that for every $i$ and every radius $\rho>0$, the circle centred at $x_i$ with radius $\rho$ contains at most two of the other points.Let \[ D:=\{\,|x_i-x_j|:1\leq i<j\leq n\,\} \] be the global distance set.
For a fixed index $i$, define the set of distances seen from $x_i$ by \[ D_i:=\{\,|x_i-x_j|:j\neq i\,\}. \] Every value in $D_i$ belongs to $D$, so \[ |D|\geq |D_i| \qquad \text{for every } i. \] Now fix $i$. There are $n-1$ points other than $x_i$. By hypothesis, each radius about $x_i$ can hit at most two of them. Hence each element of $D_i$ accounts for at most two points, and therefore \[ 2|D_i|\geq n-1. \] So \[ |D_i|\geq \left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil = \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor. \] Since $|D|\ge |D_i|$, we obtain the sharp universal lower bound \[ |D|\geq \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor. \]
Thus the exact corrected theorem is:
Corrected theorem. For every $n\ge 1$, every $n$-point set in the plane satisfying the stated hypothesis determines at least $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ distinct distances.
To see that this is best possible, invoke the Round-1 construction: the $n$ vertices of a regular $n$-gon satisfy the hypothesis and determine exactly $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ distinct distances. Therefore \[ \min |D| = \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor \] over all such $n$-point configurations.
6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION
- Quantifiers. The proof gives the lower bound for every $n\ge 1$, not merely for large $n$.
- Odd/even parity. The identity $\lceil (n-1)/2\rceil=\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ handles both parity cases exactly.
- Edge cases. For $n=1$, the distance set is empty and $\lfloor n/2\rfloor=0$. For $n=2$, there is exactly one distance and $\lfloor n/2\rfloor=1$. The argument still works.
- No hidden assumption. The proof uses only the stated circle-multiplicity hypothesis; it does not assume convexity, general position, or any structure beyond distinctness of the points.
- Sharpness. The regular $n$-gon from Round 1 attains equality, so the correction cannot be improved.
7) FINAL
FULL SOLUTION --- COUNTEREXAMPLE / DISPROOFThe original statement is false. The exact corrected statement is: \[ |D|\ge \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor, \] and this bound is sharp for every $n$, with equality achieved by the regular $n$-gon.
8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE
COMPLETION: 100%9) REFERENCES
No external theorem is needed for the Round-2 correction; the proof above is self-contained.References
References
- [Bloom738] T. F. Bloom (ed.), Erdős Problem #738, Erdős Problems Project, accessed 8 March 2026.
- [Bloom740] T. F. Bloom (ed.), Erdős Problem #740, Erdős Problems Project, accessed 8 March 2026.
- [Scott97] A. D. Scott, Induced trees in graphs of large chromatic number, Journal of Graph Theory 24 $1997$, 297--311.
- [NguyenScottSeymour24] T. Nguyen, A. Scott, and P. Seymour, A note on the Gyárfás--Sumner conjecture, Graphs and Combinatorics 40 $2024$, Article 33.
- [Rodl77] V. Rödl, On the chromatic number of subgraphs of a given graph, Proceedings of the American Mathematical Society 64 $1977$, 370--371.
- [KomjathShelah88] P. Komjáth and S. Shelah, Forcing constructions for uncountably chromatic graphs, Journal of Symbolic Logic 53 $1988$, 696--707.
Reused writeup on Math-5797 (gpt pro 5.4)
Erdős Problem 655 --- collection record
PROVENANCE AND STATUS
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Primary source (latest numbered version in the preferred model folder): attacks/erdos/gpt_pro_5.4/655.tex.
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Original attribution:gpt_pro_5.2. Original file: attacks/erdos/gpt_pro_5.2/655.tex.PROBLEM 1 $\#655$: Distinct distances with bounded concentric multiplicity
FORMAL RESTATEMENT
Fix $n\in\mathbb{N}$ and distinct points $x_1,\dots,x_n\in\mathbb{R}^2$.- Convention: a circle with center $x_i$ means the set $\{y\in\mathbb{R}^2: \|y-x_i\|=\rho\}$ for some radius $\rho>0$ (not the closed disk).
- Hypothesis ("no centered circle contains three other points"): for every $i\in\{1,\dots,n\}$ and every radius $\rho>0$, the circle centered at $x_i$ of radius $\rho$ contains at most two points of $\{x_1,\dots,x_n\}\setminus\{x_i\}$. Equivalently, \[ \forall i\ \forall \rho>0:\quad \left|\{j\neq i: \|x_i-x_j\|=\rho\}\right|\le 2. \]
- Let the distance set \[ D(x_1,\dots,x_n):=\{\|x_i-x_j\|: 1\le i<j\le n\}, \] and write $|D|$ for its cardinality.
Question (as written): Does there exist an absolute constant $c>0$ and an $n_0\in\mathbb{N}$ such that for all $n\ge n_0$ and all point sets satisfying the hypothesis, \[ |D(x_1,\dots,x_n)|\ \ge\ (1+c)\frac{n}{2}\ ? \]
QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
A quick scan of the online discussion of Erdős problem #655 reports that the conjectured bound is false, and specifically notes an observation (attributed there to Zach Hunter) that $n$ equally spaced points on a circle give a counterexample.ATTACK PLAN
- Disproof strategy: take the vertex set of a regular $n$-gon on a circle. Check the hypothesis by computing, for a fixed vertex, how many other vertices occur at the same distance. Then compute the number of distinct interpoint distances.
- Verification strategy: handle odd/even $n$ carefully (the "opposite vertex" case when $n$ is even) and confirm that the chord lengths are all distinct for step sizes $1,\dots,\lfloor n/2\rfloor$.
WORK
Step 1: Verify the hypothesis. Fix a vertex $x_i$. For each integer $t$ with $1\le t\le n-1$, the two vertices $x_{i+t}$ and $x_{i-t}$ (indices modulo $n$) have the same distance to $x_i$, and that distance depends only on $t$. Indeed, the central angle between $x_i$ and $x_{i+t}$ is $2\pi t/n$, so the chord length is \[ d_t := \|x_i-x_{i+t}\| = 2\sin\left(\frac{\pi t}{n}\right). \] For a fixed $t$ with $1\le t< n/2$, there are exactly two vertices at distance $d_t$ from $x_i$ (namely $x_{i\pm t}$). If $n$ is even and $t=n/2$, there is exactly one vertex at that distance (the opposite vertex). Hence for every radius $\rho>0$, the circle centered at $x_i$ of radius $\rho$ contains at most two other points of the configuration. This is exactly the hypothesis.
Step 2: Compute the number of distinct distances. Every interpoint distance in this configuration is some $d_t$ with $1\le t\le \lfloor n/2\rfloor$ (because $d_t=d_{n-t}$). We claim these values are all distinct: if $1\le s<t\le\lfloor n/2\rfloor$, then \[ 0<\frac{\pi s}{n}<\frac{\pi t}{n}\le\frac{\pi}{2}, \] and $\sin$ is strictly increasing on $(0,\pi/2]$, so $\sin(\pi s/n)<\sin(\pi t/n)$ and therefore $d_s<d_t$. Thus \[ D(x_1,\dots,x_n)=\{d_t: 1\le t\le \lfloor n/2\rfloor\} \quad\text{and}\quad |D(x_1,\dots,x_n)|=\left\lfloor\frac{n}{2}\right\rfloor. \]
Step 3: Contradict the claimed lower bound. Let $c>0$ be arbitrary. For all $n>\frac{2}{c}$, \[ \left\lfloor\frac{n}{2}\right\rfloor\le \frac{n}{2} < (1+c)\frac{n}{2}, \] so the required inequality fails for this $n$ and this configuration. Since this works for arbitrarily large $n$, no such absolute constant $c>0$ can exist. ∎
(Tiny-case computation check.) For the regular $n$-gon construction, one gets $|D|=\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ for small $n$ as well: \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccc} n & 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 & 7 & 8 & 9 & 10\\\hline |D| & 1 & 2 & 2 & 3 & 3 & 4 & 4 & 5 \end{array} \]
VERIFICATION
- Quantifiers: the counterexample is constructed for every $n\ge 3$, so it defeats any universal $c>0$ and any $n_0$.
- Hypothesis check: for each center $x_i$ and each radius $\rho$, the points at distance $\rho$ correspond to a step size $t$; there are at most two such points (or one if $n$ is even and $t=n/2$).
- Distinctness of distances: proved via strict monotonicity of $\sin$ on $(0,\pi/2]$.
- Edge cases: for $n=1,2$ the hypothesis is vacuous and the conclusion is irrelevant; the statement asks for $n$ sufficiently large anyway.
FINAL
LABEL: FULL SOLUTIONSUBLABEL: COUNTEREXAMPLE/DISPROOF
A regular $n$-gon (equally spaced points on a circle) satisfies the hypothesis but determines exactly $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ distinct distances, contradicting any lower bound of the form $(1+c)\,n/2$ with fixed $c>0$.
COMPLETION ESTIMATE
COMPLETION: 100%.REUSED SOURCE 2
Original attribution:gpt_pro_5.4. Original file: attacks/erdos/gpt_pro_5.4/655.tex.Erdős problems #655, #738, #740 --- Round 2 continuation
Problem #655
1) ROUND-2 OBJECTIVE
Path (C): turn the Round-1 disproof into the exact corrected statement. Round 1 already produced a regular $n$-gon counterexample, so the natural gap to close is the sharp lower bound that actually follows from the stated hypothesis.2) Round-1 FOUNDATION USED
I use the following vetted Round-1 fact.The regular $n$-gon satisfies the hypothesis of the problem and determines exactly $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ distinct distances. Therefore the claimed bound $(1+c)n/2$ is false for every fixed $c>0$.
I do not re-prove that counterexample here.
3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND-2)
The hypothesis controls the multiplicity of each radius around a fixed point. If one fixes a point $x_i$, then among the $n-1$ distances from $x_i$ to the other points, each distinct value can occur at most twice. Therefore $x_i$ itself determines at least $\lceil (n-1)/2\rceil$ distinct distances. Since these are all global interpoint distances, the whole configuration determines at least that many distinct distances.Combined with the Round-1 regular $n$-gon construction, this gives the exact optimum.
4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND-2)
The only remaining gap after Round 1 is to identify the best possible lower bound replacing the false inequality \[ |D|\geq (1+c)\frac n2. \] I will prove the sharp correction \[ |D|\geq \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor, \] and then use the Round-1 regular $n$-gon to show equality is attainable for every $n$.5) WORK (ROUND-2)
Let $x_1,\dots,x_n$ be distinct points in the plane satisfying the hypothesis that for every $i$ and every radius $\rho>0$, the circle centred at $x_i$ with radius $\rho$ contains at most two of the other points.Let \[ D:=\{\,|x_i-x_j|:1\leq i<j\leq n\,\} \] be the global distance set.
For a fixed index $i$, define the set of distances seen from $x_i$ by \[ D_i:=\{\,|x_i-x_j|:j\neq i\,\}. \] Every value in $D_i$ belongs to $D$, so \[ |D|\geq |D_i| \qquad \text{for every } i. \] Now fix $i$. There are $n-1$ points other than $x_i$. By hypothesis, each radius about $x_i$ can hit at most two of them. Hence each element of $D_i$ accounts for at most two points, and therefore \[ 2|D_i|\geq n-1. \] So \[ |D_i|\geq \left\lceil\frac{n-1}{2}\right\rceil = \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor. \] Since $|D|\ge |D_i|$, we obtain the sharp universal lower bound \[ |D|\geq \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor. \]
Thus the exact corrected theorem is:
Corrected theorem. For every $n\ge 1$, every $n$-point set in the plane satisfying the stated hypothesis determines at least $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ distinct distances.
To see that this is best possible, invoke the Round-1 construction: the $n$ vertices of a regular $n$-gon satisfy the hypothesis and determine exactly $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ distinct distances. Therefore \[ \min |D| = \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor \] over all such $n$-point configurations.
6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION
- Quantifiers. The proof gives the lower bound for every $n\ge 1$, not merely for large $n$.
- Odd/even parity. The identity $\lceil (n-1)/2\rceil=\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ handles both parity cases exactly.
- Edge cases. For $n=1$, the distance set is empty and $\lfloor n/2\rfloor=0$. For $n=2$, there is exactly one distance and $\lfloor n/2\rfloor=1$. The argument still works.
- No hidden assumption. The proof uses only the stated circle-multiplicity hypothesis; it does not assume convexity, general position, or any structure beyond distinctness of the points.
- Sharpness. The regular $n$-gon from Round 1 attains equality, so the correction cannot be improved.
7) FINAL
FULL SOLUTION --- COUNTEREXAMPLE / DISPROOFThe original statement is false. The exact corrected statement is: \[ |D|\ge \left\lfloor\frac n2\right\rfloor, \] and this bound is sharp for every $n$, with equality achieved by the regular $n$-gon.
8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE
COMPLETION: 100%9) REFERENCES
No external theorem is needed for the Round-2 correction; the proof above is self-contained.References
References
- [Bloom738] T. F. Bloom (ed.), Erdős Problem #738, Erdős Problems Project, accessed 8 March 2026.
- [Bloom740] T. F. Bloom (ed.), Erdős Problem #740, Erdős Problems Project, accessed 8 March 2026.
- [Scott97] A. D. Scott, Induced trees in graphs of large chromatic number, Journal of Graph Theory 24 $1997$, 297--311.
- [NguyenScottSeymour24] T. Nguyen, A. Scott, and P. Seymour, A note on the Gyárfás--Sumner conjecture, Graphs and Combinatorics 40 $2024$, Article 33.
- [Rodl77] V. Rödl, On the chromatic number of subgraphs of a given graph, Proceedings of the American Mathematical Society 64 $1977$, 370--371.
- [KomjathShelah88] P. Komjáth and S. Shelah, Forcing constructions for uncountably chromatic graphs, Journal of Symbolic Logic 53 $1988$, 696--707.
COMPLETION ESTIMATE
Inherited primary-source estimate: $100\%$. This is the original source's unverified estimate, not a new assessment or confirmation that the problem is solved.gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-5797
PROBLEM 1 $\#655$: Distinct distances with bounded concentric multiplicity
FORMAL RESTATEMENT
Fix $n\in\mathbb{N}$ and distinct points $x_1,\dots,x_n\in\mathbb{R}^2$.- Convention: a circle with center $x_i$ means the set $\{y\in\mathbb{R}^2: \|y-x_i\|=\rho\}$ for some radius $\rho>0$ (not the closed disk).
- Hypothesis ("no centered circle contains three other points"): for every $i\in\{1,\dots,n\}$ and every radius $\rho>0$, the circle centered at $x_i$ of radius $\rho$ contains at most two points of $\{x_1,\dots,x_n\}\setminus\{x_i\}$. Equivalently, \[ \forall i\ \forall \rho>0:\quad \left|\{j\neq i: \|x_i-x_j\|=\rho\}\right|\le 2. \]
- Let the distance set \[ D(x_1,\dots,x_n):=\{\|x_i-x_j\|: 1\le i<j\le n\}, \] and write $|D|$ for its cardinality.
Question (as written): Does there exist an absolute constant $c>0$ and an $n_0\in\mathbb{N}$ such that for all $n\ge n_0$ and all point sets satisfying the hypothesis, \[ |D(x_1,\dots,x_n)|\ \ge\ (1+c)\frac{n}{2}\ ? \]
QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
A quick scan of the online discussion of Erdős problem #655 reports that the conjectured bound is false, and specifically notes an observation (attributed there to Zach Hunter) that $n$ equally spaced points on a circle give a counterexample.ATTACK PLAN
- Disproof strategy: take the vertex set of a regular $n$-gon on a circle. Check the hypothesis by computing, for a fixed vertex, how many other vertices occur at the same distance. Then compute the number of distinct interpoint distances.
- Verification strategy: handle odd/even $n$ carefully (the "opposite vertex" case when $n$ is even) and confirm that the chord lengths are all distinct for step sizes $1,\dots,\lfloor n/2\rfloor$.
WORK
Step 1: Verify the hypothesis. Fix a vertex $x_i$. For each integer $t$ with $1\le t\le n-1$, the two vertices $x_{i+t}$ and $x_{i-t}$ (indices modulo $n$) have the same distance to $x_i$, and that distance depends only on $t$. Indeed, the central angle between $x_i$ and $x_{i+t}$ is $2\pi t/n$, so the chord length is \[ d_t := \|x_i-x_{i+t}\| = 2\sin\left(\frac{\pi t}{n}\right). \] For a fixed $t$ with $1\le t< n/2$, there are exactly two vertices at distance $d_t$ from $x_i$ (namely $x_{i\pm t}$). If $n$ is even and $t=n/2$, there is exactly one vertex at that distance (the opposite vertex). Hence for every radius $\rho>0$, the circle centered at $x_i$ of radius $\rho$ contains at most two other points of the configuration. This is exactly the hypothesis.
Step 2: Compute the number of distinct distances. Every interpoint distance in this configuration is some $d_t$ with $1\le t\le \lfloor n/2\rfloor$ (because $d_t=d_{n-t}$). We claim these values are all distinct: if $1\le s<t\le\lfloor n/2\rfloor$, then \[ 0<\frac{\pi s}{n}<\frac{\pi t}{n}\le\frac{\pi}{2}, \] and $\sin$ is strictly increasing on $(0,\pi/2]$, so $\sin(\pi s/n)<\sin(\pi t/n)$ and therefore $d_s<d_t$. Thus \[ D(x_1,\dots,x_n)=\{d_t: 1\le t\le \lfloor n/2\rfloor\} \quad\text{and}\quad |D(x_1,\dots,x_n)|=\left\lfloor\frac{n}{2}\right\rfloor. \]
Step 3: Contradict the claimed lower bound. Let $c>0$ be arbitrary. For all $n>\frac{2}{c}$, \[ \left\lfloor\frac{n}{2}\right\rfloor\le \frac{n}{2} < (1+c)\frac{n}{2}, \] so the required inequality fails for this $n$ and this configuration. Since this works for arbitrarily large $n$, no such absolute constant $c>0$ can exist. ∎
(Tiny-case computation check.) For the regular $n$-gon construction, one gets $|D|=\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ for small $n$ as well: \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccc} n & 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 & 7 & 8 & 9 & 10\\\hline |D| & 1 & 2 & 2 & 3 & 3 & 4 & 4 & 5 \end{array} \]
VERIFICATION
- Quantifiers: the counterexample is constructed for every $n\ge 3$, so it defeats any universal $c>0$ and any $n_0$.
- Hypothesis check: for each center $x_i$ and each radius $\rho$, the points at distance $\rho$ correspond to a step size $t$; there are at most two such points (or one if $n$ is even and $t=n/2$).
- Distinctness of distances: proved via strict monotonicity of $\sin$ on $(0,\pi/2]$.
- Edge cases: for $n=1,2$ the hypothesis is vacuous and the conclusion is irrelevant; the statement asks for $n$ sufficiently large anyway.
FINAL
LABEL: FULL SOLUTIONSUBLABEL: COUNTEREXAMPLE/DISPROOF
A regular $n$-gon (equally spaced points on a circle) satisfies the hypothesis but determines exactly $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ distinct distances, contradicting any lower bound of the form $(1+c)\,n/2$ with fixed $c>0$.
COMPLETION ESTIMATE
COMPLETION: 100%.Reviews 1
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