Erdős Problem #625
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For a graph $G$, the cochromatic number $\zeta(G)$ is the minimum number of colours in a vertex-colouring such that each colour class induces either a clique or an independent set. Let $\chi(G)$ be the usual chromatic number.
Let $G\sim G(n,1/2)$ be the Erdős--Rényi random graph. The question is whether \[ \chi(G)-\zeta(G)\to\infty \] with high probability (equivalently: for every fixed $M$, $\Pr[\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\ge M]\to 1$).
Restatement from Math-5776-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-5776
Erdős Problem 625: an exact overlap calculation for cocolourings
Statement and current context
For $G\sim G(n,1/2)$, let $\chi(G)$ be its chromatic number and $\zeta(G)$ the minimum number of parts in a partition into cliques or independent sets. The question asks whether $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\to\infty$ with probability tending to one, along the full sequence of integers $n$. The current problem page reports a full-sequence resolution by Petkov and GPT-5.6. The linked manuscript proposes a lower bound of order $n/(\log n)^3$. This attempt does not claim to reproduce or independently verify that entire argument. It proves an exact signed-overlap identity, explains a necessary cycle correction, and gives a rigorous concentration criterion sufficient to finish the problem if an expectation gap is established.1. Signed witnesses
A signed witness is a partition $\Pi$ of $[n]$ with every part marked either $I$ or $K$. It is valid if every $I$-part is independent and every $K$-part is a clique. For a partition with $r$ parts put \[ E(\Pi)=\sum_{A\in\Pi}\binom{|A|}{2}. \] A fixed marking is valid with probability $2^{-E(\Pi)}$, since it prescribes distinct edge coordinates. Summing over all markings gives expected signed-witness count $2^{r-E(\Pi)}$. Marks on singleton parts are still counted separately; this harmless convention makes the identities exact.Take two partitions $\Pi=(A_1,\ldots,A_r)$ and $\Pi'=(B_1,\ldots,B_{r'})$, and put $t_{ij}=|A_i\cap B_j|$. Form a bipartite graph $H$ on the $r+r'$ part labels, placing an edge $ij$ exactly when $t_{ij}\ge2$. Let $e(H),v(H),c(H)$ be its numbers of edges, vertices, and connected components, with isolated vertices counted. Set $\beta(H)=e(H)-v(H)+c(H)$. A marking of the two partitions is compatible exactly when the signs agree across every edge of $H$: an intersection with at least two vertices prescribes a common graph edge, while smaller intersections impose no condition. Therefore there are precisely $2^{c(H)}$ compatible pairs of markings. For each compatible pair, the number of distinct prescribed edge coordinates is \[ E(\Pi)+E(\Pi')-\sum_{i,j}\binom{t_{ij}}2. \] After summing joint probabilities and dividing by the two individual signed expectations, the resulting overlap factor is \begin{align*} W(\Pi,\Pi') &=2^{\sum_{i,j}\binom{t_{ij}}2-r-r'+c(H)}\\ &=\boxed{2^{\,\beta(H)+\sum_{t_{ij}\ge2}(\binom{t_{ij}}2-1)}}. \tag{1} \end{align*} This derivation proves every factor, including the component count.
2. Exact second moment and a check on the cycle correction
Fix any class-size profile, and let $\mathcal P$ be its set of partitions, with an unambiguous fixed convention for ordering parts. All such partitions have the same $r$ and $E$. Let $Z$ count valid signed witnesses over $\mathcal P$. Then \[ \mathbb EZ=|\mathcal P|2^{r-E},\qquad \frac{\mathbb EZ^2}{(\mathbb EZ)^2} =\frac1{|\mathcal P|^2}\sum_{\Pi,\Pi'\in\mathcal P}W(\Pi,\Pi'). \tag{2} \] The factor $2^{\beta(H)}$ cannot be dropped. For $n=8$, let both partitions have two parts of size four, with all four intersections of size two. Then $H=K_{2,2}$, so $\beta(H)=1$, while every local exponent $\binom22-1$ is zero. Formula $1$ gives $W=2$, not one. Equivalently, the four overlap constraints admit two common signings instead of the one that four independent constraints on four signs would suggest. This is a concrete obstruction to a second-moment argument that treats the cells independently.3. A concentration criterion for the required gap
Expose the random graph in $n$ independent blocks, block $i$ containing all edges $ij$ with $j>i$. Changing one block changes only edges incident with vertex $i$. If two such graphs share the same graph $J$ after deleting $i$, each of $\chi$ and $\zeta$ lies between its value on $J$ and that value plus one. Consequently changing one block changes either parameter by at most one and their difference $D=\chi-\zeta$ by at most two. The bounded-differences inequality therefore gives \[ \Pr\left(D\le\mathbb ED-t\right)\le e^{-t^2/(2n)}. \tag{3} \] For example, if one proves $\mathbb ED/\sqrt n\to\infty$, then putting $t=\mathbb ED/2$ proves $D\to\infty$ with probability tending to one. In particular an expectation lower bound $\mathbb ED\ge c n/(\log n)^3$ would suffice, since $\sqrt n/(\log n)^3\to\infty$. Neither $1$ nor the first moment alone proves this expectation lower bound. Cauchy--Schwarz applied to $Z\mathbf1_{Z>0}$ only gives \[ \Pr(Z>0)\ge (\mathbb EZ)^2/\mathbb EZ^2. \] To make it useful, the complete average in $2$ must be controlled, including large intersections and cycle factors, uniformly across changes in the optimal integer class sizes. This is precisely the substantial estimate not established in this attempt.4. What a weaker concentration transfer cannot show
The deterministic inequality $\zeta(G)\le\chi(\overline G)$ and Harris's inequality imply, for integer $m,a$, \[ \Pr(D>m)\ge\Pr(\chi(G)\le a)\Pr(\chi(G)\ge a+m+1). \] Both events $\{\chi(G)\ge a+m+1\}$ and $\{\chi(\overline G)\le a\}$ are increasing in the edge coordinates of $G$, which proves the assertion. However, a fixed positive lower bound obtained this way for $\Pr(D>m)$ does not imply that this probability tends to one. It rules out one type of concentration; it does not by itself resolve the full-sequence question. Keeping that quantifier distinction prevents an incorrect conclusion from an otherwise valid transfer lemma.Conclusion and sources
Attempt status: unresolved. The exact overlap identity $1$--$2$, its nontrivial cycle example, and the sufficient concentration criterion $3$ are proved. A uniform bound on the profile-overlap average strong enough to produce a diverging gap is still missing here. The database's reported resolution and this attempt's proof coverage are separate statements.- https://www.erdosproblems.com/625, checked 24 September 2026.
- S. Petkov, A full-sequence quantitative gap between the chromatic and cochromatic numbers of a random graph, linked manuscript, https://github.com/SamPetkov/Erdos/blob/main/625/arxiv_625.pdf. Its signed-witness framework motivates the reconstruction above; the manuscript's complete second-moment claim is not assumed as a theorem here.
gpt pro 5.4 attempt on Math-5776
Erdős Problem 625 --- ROUND-2
1) ROUND-2 OBJECTIVE
Path pursued: (C) obstruction / correction-by-reduction.
Round-1 recorded the classical asymptotics and the 2024 progress of Heckel and Steiner, but it still left a qualitative gap: why do anti-concentration statements about $\chi(G(n,1/2))$ control the random variable $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)$, and what exact obstruction remains to a full solution for all $n$?
In this round I prove a precise quantitative transfer lemma: small gap $\chi-\zeta$ forces near-concentration of $\chi$ in a short interval. This isolates the remaining obstruction sharply.
2) Round-1 FOUNDATION USED
I use the following Round-1 facts as fixed background:
- the definitions of $\chi(G)$ and $\zeta(G)$;
- the classical bounds \[ \frac{n}{2\log_2 n}\le \zeta(G)\le \chi(G)\le (1+o(1))\frac{n}{2\log_2 n} \] for $G\sim G(n,1/2)$;
- the Round-1 summary of recent progress by Steiner and Heckel showing that $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)$ is not bounded with high probability and that Heckel proves a positive answer for roughly $95\%$ of all $n$.
3) NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND-2)
The new tool is a quantitative concentration transfer lemma.
For fixed $m\ge 0$, define \[ q_{n,m}:=\Pr\left(\chi(G)-\zeta(G)>m\right), \qquad G\sim G(n,1/2). \] I prove:
- for every integer $a$, \[ q_{n,m}\ge \Pr(\chi(G)\le a)\Pr(\chi(G)\ge a+m+1); \]
- consequently, there exists an interval of width $m$ that contains $\chi(G)$ with probability at least $1-2\sqrt{q_{n,m}}$.
So if $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\le m$ with high probability, then $\chi(G)$ must be concentrated, with high probability, in an interval of width $m$. This is the exact obstruction that remains.
4) ATTACK PLAN (ROUND-2)
The Round-1 obstacle was qualitative: recent work implies large gaps for infinitely many $n$ and for about $95\%$ of all $n$, but not for every $n$.
To sharpen this, I prove a deterministic-probabilistic lemma reducing the open problem to one precise question about fixed-width concentration of $\chi(G(n,1/2))$. The proof uses only three facts:
- $\zeta(G)\le \chi(\overline G)$;
- $\overline G$ has the same distribution as $G$ when $G\sim G(n,1/2)$;
- Harris--FKG for increasing events in the edge-exposure product space.
5) WORK (ROUND-2)
Let $G\sim G(n,1/2)$ and let $\overline G$ denote its complement.
Lemma 1 (deterministic comparison).
For every graph $G$, \[ \zeta(G)\le \chi(\overline G). \]Proof.
A proper colouring of $\overline G$ partitions $V(G)$ into independent sets of $\overline G$, equivalently into cliques of $G$. Such a partition is a valid cocolouring of $G$. Hence the minimum number of colours in a cocolouring is at most $\chi(\overline G)$. $\square$Lemma 2 (quantitative transfer).
Fix an integer $m\ge 0$ and put \[ q_{n,m}:=\Pr\left(\chi(G)-\zeta(G)>m\right). \] Then for every integer $a$, \[ q_{n,m}\ge \Pr(\chi(G)\le a)\Pr(\chi(G)\ge a+m+1). \tag{1} \]Proof.
Consider the events \[ A_a:=\{\chi(G)\ge a+m+1\}, \qquad B_a:=\{\chi(\overline G)\le a\}. \] The event $A_a$ is increasing in the edge set of $G$: adding edges cannot decrease $\chi(G)$.The event $B_a$ is also increasing in the edge set of $G$: adding an edge to $G$ removes an edge from $\overline G$, and removing edges cannot increase $\chi(\overline G)$. Therefore $A_a$ and $B_a$ are both increasing events in the product probability space of edge indicators of $G$. By Harris--FKG, \[ \Pr(A_a\cap B_a)\ge \Pr(A_a)\Pr(B_a). \tag{2} \] Because $\overline G$ has the same distribution as $G(n,1/2)$, \[ \Pr(B_a)=\Pr(\chi(G)\le a). \tag{3} \] On the event $A_a\cap B_a$, Lemma 1 gives \[ \zeta(G)\le \chi(\overline G)\le a, \] while also $\chi(G)\ge a+m+1$. Hence \[ \chi(G)-\zeta(G)\ge m+1, \] so $A_a\cap B_a\subseteq \{\chi(G)-\zeta(G)>m\}$. Thus, using $2$ and $3$, \[ q_{n,m}\ge \Pr(A_a\cap B_a)\ge \Pr(\chi(G)\ge a+m+1)\Pr(\chi(G)\le a), \] which is exactly $1$. $\square$
Lemma 3 (concentration consequence).
For every $n$ and every integer $m\ge 0$, there exists an integer $a_n$ such that \[ \Pr\left(a_n\le \chi(G)\le a_n+m\right)\ge 1-2\sqrt{q_{n,m}}. \tag{4} \]Proof.
Let \[ F(t):=\Pr(\chi(G)\le t). \] If $q_{n,m}=0$, choose $a_n$ minimal such that $F(a_n)>0$. Then $F(a_n-1)=0$, and applying Lemma 2 with $a=a_n$ gives $F(a_n)\left(1-F(a_n+m)\right)=0$. Since $F(a_n)>0$, we get $F(a_n+m)=1$, so \[ \Pr\left(a_n\le \chi(G)\le a_n+m\right)=1, \] which is exactly $4$. Thus it remains only to treat the case $q_{n,m}>0$.Choose $a_n$ minimal such that \[ F(a_n)\ge \sqrt{q_{n,m}}. \] Then by minimality, \[ F(a_n-1)<\sqrt{q_{n,m}}. \tag{5} \] Apply Lemma 2 with $a=a_n$: \[ q_{n,m}\ge F(a_n)\left(1-F(a_n+m)\right). \] Since $F(a_n)\ge \sqrt{q_{n,m}}$, it follows that \[ 1-F(a_n+m)\le \sqrt{q_{n,m}}. \tag{6} \] Now \[ \Pr\left(a_n\le \chi(G)\le a_n+m\right) = F(a_n+m)-F(a_n-1). \] Using $5$ and $6$, \[ F(a_n+m)-F(a_n-1)\ge 1-\sqrt{q_{n,m}}-\sqrt{q_{n,m}} =1-2\sqrt{q_{n,m}}. \] This proves $4$. $\square$
Corollary 4.
If for some fixed $m$ one has \[ \Pr\left(\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\le m\right)\to 1, \] then there exists a sequence of intervals $I_n$ of width $m$ such that \[ \Pr\left(\chi(G)\in I_n\right)\to 1. \]Proof.
This is immediate from Lemma 3, since in that case $q_{n,m}\to 0$. $\square$Corollary 5.
If for some fixed $m$ and some $\delta>0$ every interval $I$ of width $m$ satisfies \[ \Pr(\chi(G)\in I)\le 1-\delta, \] then \[ \Pr\left(\chi(G)-\zeta(G)>m\right)\ge \delta^2/4. \]Proof.
If $q_{n,m}<\delta^2/4$, then Lemma 3 would produce an interval of width $m$ containing $\chi(G)$ with probability $>1-\delta$, contradiction. $\square$Interpretation.
The full Erdős--Gimbel problem is therefore reduced to the following sharply formulated obstruction:For each fixed $m$, can $\chi(G(n,1/2))$ concentrate with probability $1-o(1)$ inside some interval of width $m$?
If the answer is no for every fixed $m$, then $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\to\infty$ with high probability.
6) ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION
- Monotonicity of $B_a=\{\chi(\overline G)\le a\}$. This is easy to get wrong because the event is phrased in terms of $\overline G$. But as edges are added to $G$, edges are removed from $\overline G$, and removing edges cannot increase chromatic number. So $B_a$ is indeed increasing in the coordinates of $G$.
- Use of complement symmetry. For $G\sim G(n,1/2)$, the complement $\overline G$ has the same distribution as $G$. This is essential in passing from $\Pr(B_a)$ to $\Pr(\chi(G)\le a)$.
- Endpoint conventions. I formulated the gap event as $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)>m$ and the interval as $[a_n,a_n+m]$. This matches the discrete inequality in Lemma 2: the upper tail is $\Pr(\chi\ge a+m+1)$.
- What the lemma does not prove. Lemma 3 does not itself show that $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\to\infty$ with high probability. It shows instead that any failure of the conjecture must be accompanied by near-total concentration of $\chi(G)$ in a bounded-width interval. Thus it identifies the exact remaining obstruction.
7) FINAL
UNRESOLVED (BUT STRICTLY ADVANCED).
The strict advance over Round-1 is a quantitative theorem: small cochromatic gap forces short-interval concentration of the chromatic number. This turns the open problem into a sharp fixed-width concentration problem for $\chi(G(n,1/2))$. That is a precise obstruction, rather than the looser heuristic connection recorded in Round-1.
8) COMPLETION ESTIMATE (MANDATORY)
COMPLETION: 55%
9) REFERENCES
- T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #625,
erdosproblems.com/625, accessed 2026-03-07. - R. Steiner, On the difference between the chromatic and cochromatic number, arXiv:2408.02400v2.
- A. Heckel, On a question of Erdős and Gimbel on the cochromatic number, Electron. J. Combin. 31 $2024$, P4.72.
- A. Heckel, The difference between the chromatic and the cochromatic number of a random graph, arXiv:2409.17614v2.
- N. Alon and J. H. Spencer, The Probabilistic Method, for the Harris--FKG inequality.
10) OUTPUT FORMAT
This section is written in drop-in LaTeX form and starts directly from \section{}, with no preamble.
gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-5776
Problem 625
FORMAL RESTATEMENT
For a graph $G$, the cochromatic number $\zeta(G)$ is the minimum number of colours in a vertex-colouring such that each colour class induces either a clique or an independent set. Let $\chi(G)$ be the usual chromatic number.Let $G\sim G(n,1/2)$ be the Erdős--Rényi random graph. The question is whether \[ \chi(G)-\zeta(G)\to\infty \] with high probability (equivalently: for every fixed $M$, $\Pr[\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\ge M]\to 1$).
QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
This is Erdős Problem #625 and is listed as open. It is classical that for $G\sim G(n,1/2)$, \[ \zeta(G)\le \chi(G)\le (1+o(1))\frac{n}{2\log_2 n}, \] and also $\zeta(G)\ge \frac{n}{2\log_2 n}$ follows from the fact that $G$ a.a.s. has clique number and independence number $<2\log_2 n$.Recent progress $2024$ by Heckel and independently Steiner shows that $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)$ is not bounded with high probability; moreover, if $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\le f(n)$ with high probability, then $f(n)\ge n^{1/2-o(1)}$ along an infinite sequence of $n$. Heckel further proved that for any $\varepsilon>0$ one has $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\ge n^{1-\varepsilon}$ for roughly $95\%$ of all $n$, and conjectured the typical order $\asymp n/(\log n)^3$.
ATTACK PLAN
- Record the standard asymptotic scale of $\chi(G)$ and the sandwich bounds on $\zeta(G)$.
- Explain why these bounds alone do not decide whether $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\to\infty$.
- Summarize the strongest known partial results and indicate a concrete path that could prove the conjectured divergence (e.g. computing expectations/concentration of an auxiliary parameter that couples to $\zeta$).
WORK
(A) Baseline asymptotics.
A standard estimate for the random graph is \[ \chi(G(n,1/2)) = (1+o(1))\frac{n}{2\log_2 n}. \] Also, every cocolouring is a partition of $V(G)$ into parts each of which is either an independent set of $G$ or a clique of $G$. In $G(n,1/2)$, both the independence number $\alpha(G)$ and clique number $\omega(G)$ are a.a.s. $<2\log_2 n$, hence every colour class in a cocolouring has size $<2\log_2 n$. Therefore any cocolouring uses at least \[ \frac{n}{2\log_2 n} \] colours, giving $\zeta(G)\ge \frac{n}{2\log_2 n}$ a.a.s. Together with $\zeta(G)\le \chi(G)$, we have \[ \frac{n}{2\log_2 n}\ \le\ \zeta(G)\ \le\ \chi(G)\ \le\ (1+o(1))\frac{n}{2\log_2 n}. \] This shows $\chi$ and $\zeta$ are asymptotically of the same order, but leaves open whether their difference diverges.(B) Why the classical bounds do not answer the question.
The above inequalities allow the difference $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)$ to be as small as $0$ and as large as, say, $o\left(\tfrac{n}{\log n}\right)$ without contradicting asymptotic order. To prove divergence one needs a quantitative separation between the optimal pure independent-set partition and the optimal mixed clique/independent partition.(C) Present strongest known progress and a plausible route.
The recent results indicate that the difference is not bounded w.h.p. and can be as large as $n^{1/2-o(1)}$ on infinitely many $n$ (and even $n^{1-\varepsilon}$ for most $n$). These results are consistent with the conjecture that typically \[ \chi(G)-\zeta(G) \asymp \frac{n}{(\log n)^3}, \] which would in particular imply $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\to\infty$.A concrete strategy discussed informally in the literature is to couple $\zeta(G)$ to an auxiliary random variable defined via two independent random graphs $G_1,G_2\sim G(n,1/2)$: let $X$ be the minimum $k$ such that $[n]$ can be partitioned into $k$ sets, each of which is an independent set in either $G_1$ or $G_2$. One may compare $X$ to $\zeta(G)$ by a coupling argument and then try to compute $\mathbb E[X]$ and prove concentration of $X$ around its mean; combined with known concentration for $\chi(G)$, a separation of expectations of order $\omega(1)$ would yield the desired divergence.
VERIFICATION
The inequalities in (A) are standard consequences of the typical size of $\alpha(G)$ and $\omega(G)$ and the classical asymptotics for $\chi(G(n,1/2))$. The remaining steps (B)--(C) are not proofs but identify what additional quantitative input is required.FINAL
UNRESOLVED.- (i) What was proved: The classical sandwich bounds $\frac{n}{2\log_2 n}\le \zeta(G)\le \chi(G)\le (1+o(1))\frac{n}{2\log_2 n}$ for $G\sim G(n,1/2)$.
- (ii) Strongest partial result stated here: Recent work (Heckel; Steiner) implies $\chi(G)-\zeta(G)$ is not bounded with high probability, and Heckel gives polynomial lower bounds for most $n$.
- (iii) First gap: None of the cited results imply that for every fixed $M$ we have $\Pr[\chi(G)-\zeta(G)\ge M]\to 1$; they allow the possibility that the difference is small on an infinite subsequence of $n$ with non-negligible probability.
- (iv) Next concrete step: Prove concentration and asymptotics for a variable tightly coupled to $\zeta(G)$ (e.g. the two-graph partition parameter $X$) to within an additive $o(1)$ or $o(n^{1/2})$ window, and separate its expectation from $\mathbb E[\chi(G)]$ by $\omega(1)$.