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Erdős Problem #520

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Statement

Let $\{\sigma_p\}_{p\ \text{prime}}$ be independent random variables with \[\mathbb P(\sigma_p=1)=\mathbb P(\sigma_p=-1)=\tfrac12.\] Define a random arithmetic function $f:\mathbb N\to\{-1,0,1\}$ by

  • $f(1)=1$;
  • for each prime $p$, $f(p)=\sigma_p$;
  • if $n\ge 2$ is squarefree with prime factorization $n=p_1\cdots p_r$, set $f(n)=\sigma_{p_1}\cdots \sigma_{p_r}$;
  • if $n$ is not squarefree (i.e. $p^2\mid n$ for some prime $p$), set $f(n)=0$.
For $N\ge 1$ define the partial sums $S(N)=\sum_{m\le N} f(m)$. (Here and below $\log$ is the natural logarithm; the normalization $\sqrt{N\log\log N}$ is defined for $N\ge 3$.)

Question: Does there exist a deterministic constant $c>0$ such that, with probability $1$, \[\limsup_{N\to\infty}\frac{S(N)}{\sqrt{N\log\log N}}=c\ ?\]

Restatement from Math-5710-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.

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Erdős Problem 520 --- collection record

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Original attribution: gpt_pro_5.2. Original file: attacks/erdos/gpt_pro_5.2/520.tex.

FORMAL RESTATEMENT. Let $\{\sigma_p\}_{p\ \text{prime}}$ be independent random variables with \[\mathbb P(\sigma_p=1)=\mathbb P(\sigma_p=-1)=\tfrac12.\] Define a random arithmetic function $f:\mathbb N\to\{-1,0,1\}$ by

  • $f(1)=1$;
  • for each prime $p$, $f(p)=\sigma_p$;
  • if $n\ge 2$ is squarefree with prime factorization $n=p_1\cdots p_r$, set $f(n)=\sigma_{p_1}\cdots \sigma_{p_r}$;
  • if $n$ is not squarefree (i.e. $p^2\mid n$ for some prime $p$), set $f(n)=0$.
For $N\ge 1$ define the partial sums $S(N)=\sum_{m\le N} f(m)$. (Here and below $\log$ is the natural logarithm; the normalization $\sqrt{N\log\log N}$ is defined for $N\ge 3$.)

Question: Does there exist a deterministic constant $c>0$ such that, with probability $1$, \[\limsup_{N\to\infty}\frac{S(N)}{\sqrt{N\log\log N}}=c\ ?\]

QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK. The problem statement itself reports the following almost-sure upper bounds for $S(N)$: Wintner proved $S(N)\ll N^{1/2+o(1)}$, Erdős strengthened this to $N^{1/2}(\log N)^{O(1)}$, Lau--Tenenbaum--Wu proved $S(N)\ll N^{1/2}(\log\log N)^{2+o(1)}$, and Caich improved this to $S(N)\ll N^{1/2}(\log\log N)^{3/4+o(1)}$. The statement also reports that Harper proved $S(N)$ is almost surely not $O\big(N^{1/2}/(\log\log N)^{5/2+o(1)}\big)$ and conjectured a sharper upper bound $S(N)\ll N^{1/2}(\log\log N)^{1/4+o(1)}$ almost surely.

ATTACK PLAN.

  • Proof track idea 1: Find a martingale approximation for $S(N)$ by revealing primes in increasing order and expressing $S(N)$ as a sum of contributions of each prime; then try to apply a law-of-the-iterated-logarithm (LIL) for martingales with a computable quadratic variation.
  • Proof track idea 2: Show $S(N)$ is close (in a strong invariance principle sense) to a Gaussian process whose suprema are understood, and identify the correct scaling and constant.
  • Disproof track: Attempt to show the limsup constant is random (depends on the realization of $\{\sigma_p\}$), or that $\limsup$ does not stabilize to any constant (e.g. by constructing events forcing unusually large prime-block correlations at infinitely many scales).
I do not complete either track below; I instead record clean, fully proved moment identities and a basic probabilistic consequence.

WORK.

Fast reality check (exact small-$N$ moment computation). For $N=30$ one can average over all $2^{10}=1024$ sign-assignments on primes $\le 30$ and compute exactly:

N=30 #assignments 1024
E[S]= 1.0
E[S^2]= 19.0
#squarefree <=N = 19
(Computation done by brute force enumeration of prime-sign assignments. Here $S=S(30)$.)

A single sample realization with seed $0$ for primes $\le 10^5$ gave:

seed=0 Nmax 100000
S(Nmax)= -392
max ratio for N>=100: 1.199739691784555 at (155, 19)
This is only a sanity check; small $N$ does not meaningfully reflect the asymptotic limsup question.

Lemma 520.1 (mean and pair correlations). For $n\in\mathbb N$ we have \begin{align*} \mathbb E[f(n)] &= \begin{cases}1,& n=1,\\0,& n\ge 2,\end{cases}\\ \mathbb E[f(m)f(n)] &= \begin{cases}1,& m=n\ \text{and $n$ squarefree},\\0,& \text{otherwise}. \end{cases} \end{align*}

Proof. For $n=1$, $f(1)=1$ deterministically, so $\mathbb E[f(1)]=1$.

Now take $n\ge 2$. If $n$ is not squarefree then $f(n)=0$ deterministically and $\mathbb E[f(n)]=0$. If $n$ is squarefree, write $n=\prod_{p\mid n}p$. Then \[f(n)=\prod_{p\mid n}\sigma_p.\] Because the $\sigma_p$ are independent and $\mathbb E[\sigma_p]=0$ for each prime $p$, we get \[\mathbb E[f(n)] = \prod_{p\mid n} \mathbb E[\sigma_p] = 0,\] since the product runs over at least one prime.

For the correlation, note first that if either $m$ or $n$ is not squarefree then $f(m)f(n)=0$ deterministically, hence expectation $0$. Assume now that both $m$ and $n$ are squarefree. Write \[m=\prod_{p\mid m} p,\qquad n=\prod_{p\mid n} p.\] Then \[f(m)f(n)=\Big(\prod_{p\mid m}\sigma_p\Big)\Big(\prod_{q\mid n}\sigma_q\Big)=\prod_{r\mid mn} \sigma_r^{e_r},\] where $e_r\in\{0,1,2\}$ is the number of times $r$ appears in the combined product. By independence, \[\mathbb E[f(m)f(n)] = \prod_{r\mid mn} \mathbb E[\sigma_r^{e_r}].\] But $\sigma_r^{0}=1$ has expectation $1$, $\sigma_r^{2}=1$ has expectation $1$, and $\sigma_r^{1}=\sigma_r$ has expectation $0$. Therefore this product is $0$ unless every $e_r$ is even, i.e. unless each prime divides $m$ and $n$ simultaneously. Since $m$ and $n$ are squarefree, this condition is equivalent to $m=n$. If $m=n$ and is squarefree, then $f(m)f(n)=f(n)^2=1$ deterministically, giving expectation $1$. $\square$

Lemma 520.2 (exact second moment of partial sums). Let $S(N)=\sum_{m\le N}f(m)$ and let $Q(N)=\#\{1\le m\le N: m\ \text{squarefree}\}$. Then \[\mathbb E\big[S(N)^2\big] = Q(N).\] In particular, $\mathrm{Var}(S(N))=Q(N)-1\le N$.

Proof. Expand the square: \[S(N)^2 = \sum_{m\le N}\sum_{n\le N} f(m)f(n). \] Taking expectation and using Lemma 520.1, \[\mathbb E[S(N)^2]=\sum_{m\le N}\sum_{n\le N} \mathbb E[f(m)f(n)] = \sum_{n\le N\atop n\ \text{squarefree}} 1 = Q(N). \] The variance identity $\mathrm{Var}(S(N))=\mathbb E[S(N)^2]-(\mathbb E[S(N)])^2$ follows from Lemma 520.1, which gives $\mathbb E[S(N)]=\sum_{m\le N}\mathbb E[f(m)]=1$. Finally, $Q(N)\le N$ is immediate. $\square$

Lemma 520.3 (a weak bound in probability). For every $\varepsilon>0$, \[\mathbb P\big(|S(N)|\ge N^{1/2+\varepsilon}\big) \le N^{-2\varepsilon}\qquad (N\ge 1). \] Consequently $S(N)=o(N^{1/2+\varepsilon})$ in probability as $N\to\infty$.

Proof. By Chebyshev's inequality, \[\mathbb P\big(|S(N)|\ge N^{1/2+\varepsilon}\big)\le \frac{\mathbb E[S(N)^2]}{N^{1+2\varepsilon}}. \] Lemma 520.2 gives $\mathbb E[S(N)^2]=Q(N)\le N$, hence the bound $\le N^{-2\varepsilon}$. The probability therefore tends to $0$. $\square$

VERIFICATION.

  • Lemma 520.1: The only subtlety is non-squarefree inputs. We explicitly set $f(n)=0$ for non-squarefree $n$, making all expectations involving such $n$ equal to $0$.
  • Lemma 520.2: We used only linearity of expectation and Lemma 520.1. No hidden independence assumptions between $f(m)$ and $f(n)$ were made beyond what Lemma 520.1 already encodes.
  • Lemma 520.3: Chebyshev uses only the second moment, which we computed exactly.
  • Normalization: $\sqrt{N\log\log N}$ requires $\log\log N>0$; formally the limsup statement concerns large $N$, so this is not an issue.

FINAL. UNRESOLVED

(i) Strongest proved partial result: Exact second moment identity $\mathbb E[S(N)^2]=Q(N)$ (Lemma 520.2), and the consequent bound $S(N)=o(N^{1/2+\varepsilon})$ in probability for every $\varepsilon>0$ (Lemma 520.3).

(ii) First gap (crisp): Upgrade moment control / bounds in probability to an almost sure law at the iterated-log scale, i.e. prove or disprove the existence of a deterministic constant $c>0$ such that \[\limsup_{N\to\infty}\frac{S(N)}{\sqrt{N\log\log N}}=c\quad\text{a.s.}\]

(iii) Top 3 next moves (concrete):

  1. Find an explicit martingale difference decomposition $S(N)=\sum_{p\le N} D_p(N)$ (revealing primes in increasing order) with computable conditional variance $\sum_p \mathbb E[D_p(N)^2\mid \mathcal F_{p^-}]$, and check Lindeberg-type conditions needed for a martingale LIL.
  2. Prove a sharp asymptotic for the quadratic variation of that martingale (show it is $\asymp N\log\log N$ at the relevant scale, with a deterministic leading constant).
  3. Computationally: simulate $\max_{N\le X} S(N)/\sqrt{N\log\log N}$ for increasing $X$ across many seeds to see whether the putative constant appears stable or drifts.

(iv) Minimal counterexample structure: A disproof would likely show that the limsup constant is not deterministic (depends on the random realization of $\{\sigma_p\}$), or that the limsup is infinite/does not exist. Concretely, one would seek events occurring infinitely often that force unusually coherent signs of $f(n)$ on long ranges (strong prime-block correlations), pushing $S(N)$ above any fixed multiple of $\sqrt{N\log\log N}$.

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gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-5710

FORMAL RESTATEMENT. Let $\{\sigma_p\}_{p\ \text{prime}}$ be independent random variables with \[\mathbb P(\sigma_p=1)=\mathbb P(\sigma_p=-1)=\tfrac12.\] Define a random arithmetic function $f:\mathbb N\to\{-1,0,1\}$ by

  • $f(1)=1$;
  • for each prime $p$, $f(p)=\sigma_p$;
  • if $n\ge 2$ is squarefree with prime factorization $n=p_1\cdots p_r$, set $f(n)=\sigma_{p_1}\cdots \sigma_{p_r}$;
  • if $n$ is not squarefree (i.e. $p^2\mid n$ for some prime $p$), set $f(n)=0$.
For $N\ge 1$ define the partial sums $S(N)=\sum_{m\le N} f(m)$. (Here and below $\log$ is the natural logarithm; the normalization $\sqrt{N\log\log N}$ is defined for $N\ge 3$.)

Question: Does there exist a deterministic constant $c>0$ such that, with probability $1$, \[\limsup_{N\to\infty}\frac{S(N)}{\sqrt{N\log\log N}}=c\ ?\]

QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK. The problem statement itself reports the following almost-sure upper bounds for $S(N)$: Wintner proved $S(N)\ll N^{1/2+o(1)}$, Erdős strengthened this to $N^{1/2}(\log N)^{O(1)}$, Lau--Tenenbaum--Wu proved $S(N)\ll N^{1/2}(\log\log N)^{2+o(1)}$, and Caich improved this to $S(N)\ll N^{1/2}(\log\log N)^{3/4+o(1)}$. The statement also reports that Harper proved $S(N)$ is almost surely not $O\big(N^{1/2}/(\log\log N)^{5/2+o(1)}\big)$ and conjectured a sharper upper bound $S(N)\ll N^{1/2}(\log\log N)^{1/4+o(1)}$ almost surely.

ATTACK PLAN.

  • Proof track idea 1: Find a martingale approximation for $S(N)$ by revealing primes in increasing order and expressing $S(N)$ as a sum of contributions of each prime; then try to apply a law-of-the-iterated-logarithm (LIL) for martingales with a computable quadratic variation.
  • Proof track idea 2: Show $S(N)$ is close (in a strong invariance principle sense) to a Gaussian process whose suprema are understood, and identify the correct scaling and constant.
  • Disproof track: Attempt to show the limsup constant is random (depends on the realization of $\{\sigma_p\}$), or that $\limsup$ does not stabilize to any constant (e.g. by constructing events forcing unusually large prime-block correlations at infinitely many scales).
I do not complete either track below; I instead record clean, fully proved moment identities and a basic probabilistic consequence.

WORK.

Fast reality check (exact small-$N$ moment computation). For $N=30$ one can average over all $2^{10}=1024$ sign-assignments on primes $\le 30$ and compute exactly:

N=30 #assignments 1024
E[S]= 1.0
E[S^2]= 19.0
#squarefree <=N = 19
(Computation done by brute force enumeration of prime-sign assignments. Here $S=S(30)$.)

A single sample realization with seed $0$ for primes $\le 10^5$ gave:

seed=0 Nmax 100000
S(Nmax)= -392
max ratio for N>=100: 1.199739691784555 at (155, 19)
This is only a sanity check; small $N$ does not meaningfully reflect the asymptotic limsup question.

Lemma 520.1 (mean and pair correlations). For $n\in\mathbb N$ we have \begin{align*} \mathbb E[f(n)] &= \begin{cases}1,& n=1,\\0,& n\ge 2,\end{cases}\\ \mathbb E[f(m)f(n)] &= \begin{cases}1,& m=n\ \text{and $n$ squarefree},\\0,& \text{otherwise}. \end{cases} \end{align*}

Proof. For $n=1$, $f(1)=1$ deterministically, so $\mathbb E[f(1)]=1$.

Now take $n\ge 2$. If $n$ is not squarefree then $f(n)=0$ deterministically and $\mathbb E[f(n)]=0$. If $n$ is squarefree, write $n=\prod_{p\mid n}p$. Then \[f(n)=\prod_{p\mid n}\sigma_p.\] Because the $\sigma_p$ are independent and $\mathbb E[\sigma_p]=0$ for each prime $p$, we get \[\mathbb E[f(n)] = \prod_{p\mid n} \mathbb E[\sigma_p] = 0,\] since the product runs over at least one prime.

For the correlation, note first that if either $m$ or $n$ is not squarefree then $f(m)f(n)=0$ deterministically, hence expectation $0$. Assume now that both $m$ and $n$ are squarefree. Write \[m=\prod_{p\mid m} p,\qquad n=\prod_{p\mid n} p.\] Then \[f(m)f(n)=\Big(\prod_{p\mid m}\sigma_p\Big)\Big(\prod_{q\mid n}\sigma_q\Big)=\prod_{r\mid mn} \sigma_r^{e_r},\] where $e_r\in\{0,1,2\}$ is the number of times $r$ appears in the combined product. By independence, \[\mathbb E[f(m)f(n)] = \prod_{r\mid mn} \mathbb E[\sigma_r^{e_r}].\] But $\sigma_r^{0}=1$ has expectation $1$, $\sigma_r^{2}=1$ has expectation $1$, and $\sigma_r^{1}=\sigma_r$ has expectation $0$. Therefore this product is $0$ unless every $e_r$ is even, i.e. unless each prime divides $m$ and $n$ simultaneously. Since $m$ and $n$ are squarefree, this condition is equivalent to $m=n$. If $m=n$ and is squarefree, then $f(m)f(n)=f(n)^2=1$ deterministically, giving expectation $1$. $\square$

Lemma 520.2 (exact second moment of partial sums). Let $S(N)=\sum_{m\le N}f(m)$ and let $Q(N)=\#\{1\le m\le N: m\ \text{squarefree}\}$. Then \[\mathbb E\big[S(N)^2\big] = Q(N).\] In particular, $\mathrm{Var}(S(N))=Q(N)-1\le N$.

Proof. Expand the square: \[S(N)^2 = \sum_{m\le N}\sum_{n\le N} f(m)f(n). \] Taking expectation and using Lemma 520.1, \[\mathbb E[S(N)^2]=\sum_{m\le N}\sum_{n\le N} \mathbb E[f(m)f(n)] = \sum_{n\le N\atop n\ \text{squarefree}} 1 = Q(N). \] The variance identity $\mathrm{Var}(S(N))=\mathbb E[S(N)^2]-(\mathbb E[S(N)])^2$ follows from Lemma 520.1, which gives $\mathbb E[S(N)]=\sum_{m\le N}\mathbb E[f(m)]=1$. Finally, $Q(N)\le N$ is immediate. $\square$

Lemma 520.3 (a weak bound in probability). For every $\varepsilon>0$, \[\mathbb P\big(|S(N)|\ge N^{1/2+\varepsilon}\big) \le N^{-2\varepsilon}\qquad (N\ge 1). \] Consequently $S(N)=o(N^{1/2+\varepsilon})$ in probability as $N\to\infty$.

Proof. By Chebyshev's inequality, \[\mathbb P\big(|S(N)|\ge N^{1/2+\varepsilon}\big)\le \frac{\mathbb E[S(N)^2]}{N^{1+2\varepsilon}}. \] Lemma 520.2 gives $\mathbb E[S(N)^2]=Q(N)\le N$, hence the bound $\le N^{-2\varepsilon}$. The probability therefore tends to $0$. $\square$

VERIFICATION.

  • Lemma 520.1: The only subtlety is non-squarefree inputs. We explicitly set $f(n)=0$ for non-squarefree $n$, making all expectations involving such $n$ equal to $0$.
  • Lemma 520.2: We used only linearity of expectation and Lemma 520.1. No hidden independence assumptions between $f(m)$ and $f(n)$ were made beyond what Lemma 520.1 already encodes.
  • Lemma 520.3: Chebyshev uses only the second moment, which we computed exactly.
  • Normalization: $\sqrt{N\log\log N}$ requires $\log\log N>0$; formally the limsup statement concerns large $N$, so this is not an issue.

FINAL. UNRESOLVED

(i) Strongest proved partial result: Exact second moment identity $\mathbb E[S(N)^2]=Q(N)$ (Lemma 520.2), and the consequent bound $S(N)=o(N^{1/2+\varepsilon})$ in probability for every $\varepsilon>0$ (Lemma 520.3).

(ii) First gap (crisp): Upgrade moment control / bounds in probability to an almost sure law at the iterated-log scale, i.e. prove or disprove the existence of a deterministic constant $c>0$ such that \[\limsup_{N\to\infty}\frac{S(N)}{\sqrt{N\log\log N}}=c\quad\text{a.s.}\]

(iii) Top 3 next moves (concrete):

  1. Find an explicit martingale difference decomposition $S(N)=\sum_{p\le N} D_p(N)$ (revealing primes in increasing order) with computable conditional variance $\sum_p \mathbb E[D_p(N)^2\mid \mathcal F_{p^-}]$, and check Lindeberg-type conditions needed for a martingale LIL.
  2. Prove a sharp asymptotic for the quadratic variation of that martingale (show it is $\asymp N\log\log N$ at the relevant scale, with a deterministic leading constant).
  3. Computationally: simulate $\max_{N\le X} S(N)/\sqrt{N\log\log N}$ for increasing $X$ across many seeds to see whether the putative constant appears stable or drifts.

(iv) Minimal counterexample structure: A disproof would likely show that the limsup constant is not deterministic (depends on the random realization of $\{\sigma_p\}$), or that the limsup is infinite/does not exist. Concretely, one would seek events occurring infinitely often that force unusually coherent signs of $f(n)$ on long ranges (strong prime-block correlations), pushing $S(N)$ above any fixed multiple of $\sqrt{N\log\log N}$.

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