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Erdős Problem #488

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Statement

Let $A\subseteq\mathbb{N}$ be a finite nonempty set, and define \[ B := \{ n\ge 1 : \exists a\in A\ \text{such that } a\mid n\}, \] the set of positive integers divisible by at least one element of $A$. For $x\ge 1$ define the counting function \[F(x):=|B\cap[1,x]|\quad\text{and the density-initial-segment }\quad d(x):=\frac{F(x)}{x}. \] The problem asks whether the following inequality always holds: \[ \forall m>n\ge \max(A):\qquad \frac{F(m)}{m} < 2\frac{F(n)}{n}. \] It also notes that the constant $2$ would be best possible, since for $A=\{a\}$, $n=2a-1$, $m=2a$ makes the ratio approach $2$ from below.

Restatement from Math-831-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.

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Reused writeup on Math-831 (gpt pro 5.2)

Erdős Problem 488 --- collection record

PROVENANCE AND STATUS

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FORMAL RESTATEMENT

Let $A\subseteq\mathbb{N}$ be a finite nonempty set, and define \[ B := \{ n\ge 1 : \exists a\in A\ \text{such that } a\mid n\}, \] the set of positive integers divisible by at least one element of $A$. For $x\ge 1$ define the counting function \[F(x):=|B\cap[1,x]|\quad\text{and the density-initial-segment }\quad d(x):=\frac{F(x)}{x}. \] The problem asks whether the following inequality always holds: \[ \forall m>n\ge \max(A):\qquad \frac{F(m)}{m} < 2\frac{F(n)}{n}. \] It also notes that the constant $2$ would be best possible, since for $A=\{a\}$, $n=2a-1$, $m=2a$ makes the ratio approach $2$ from below.

QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK

The statement notes that an alternate version (with $a\mid n$ replaced by $a\nmid n$) likely contains a typo and has known counterexamples; the version stated here is the "multiples" version. Per the project integrity rule, I do not use results not explicitly present in the problem text.

ATTACK PLAN

Proof track:
  • Use the structure of $B$ as a finite union of arithmetic progressions to obtain periodicity modulo $L=\mathrm{lcm}(A)$ and extract asymptotics $d(x)=\delta+O(1/x)$. This proves the inequality for sufficiently large $n$.
  • Analyze small $n$ relative to $L$ by expressing $F(x)$ exactly in terms of $q=\lfloor x/L\rfloor$ and remainder $r=x\bmod L$.
Disproof track:
  • Search computationally for a counterexample $(A,n,m)$ with small parameters.
I obtain (a) full proofs in some special regimes and (b) computational evidence for small parameters, but no complete proof or counterexample in general.

WORK

Lemma 1 (removing redundant divisors).
If $A$ contains two elements $a,b$ with $a\mid b$, then replacing $A$ by $A\setminus\{b\}$ does not change $B$. In particular, one may assume without loss of generality that $A$ is primitive: no element of $A$ divides another.
Proof.
If $a\mid b$, then every multiple of $b$ is automatically a multiple of $a$. Thus \[\{n: b\mid n\}\subseteq\{n: a\mid n\}. \] Therefore the union over $A$ of sets of multiples is unchanged if we remove $b$: \[ \bigcup_{t\in A}\{n: t\mid n\}=\left(\bigcup_{t\in A\setminus\{b\}}\{n: t\mid n\}\right)\cup\{n: b\mid n\}=\bigcup_{t\in A\setminus\{b\}}\{n: t\mid n\}. \] So $B$ is unchanged. $\square$
Lemma 2 (single divisor case; constant $2$ is sharp).
Let $A=\{a\}$ with $a\ge 1$. Then for every $m>n\ge a$, \[\frac{\lfloor m/a\rfloor}{m} < 2\frac{\lfloor n/a\rfloor}{n}. \] Moreover, taking $n=2a-1$ and $m=2a$ gives \[\frac{\lfloor m/a\rfloor/m}{\lfloor n/a\rfloor/n}=\frac{(2/a)}{(1/(2a-1))}=2-\frac{1}{a},\] showing the constant $2$ cannot be improved.
Proof.
Write $m=qa+r$ and $n=pa+s$ with integers $q,p\ge 1$ and remainders $0\le r,s\le a-1$. Then $\lfloor m/a\rfloor=q$ and $\lfloor n/a\rfloor=p$. We must show \[\frac{q}{qa+r} < 2\frac{p}{pa+s}. \] Cross-multiplying (all quantities positive) gives the equivalent inequality \[(pa+s)q < 2p(qa+r). \] Expand and cancel the common term $pqa$: \[s q < pqa + 2pr. \] Since $s\le a-1$, we have $sq\le (a-1)q < aq$. Since $p\ge 1$, $pqa \ge aq$. Thus $sq < pqa\le pqa+2pr$, proving the inequality. (Strictness holds because $sq<aq\le pqa$.)

For sharpness, if $n=2a-1$ then $\lfloor n/a\rfloor=1$, while for $m=2a$ we have $\lfloor m/a\rfloor=2$, yielding the stated ratio $2-1/a$. $\square$

Lemma 3 (periodicity and eventual validity for large $n$).
Let $A$ be finite and nonempty, and set $L:=\mathrm{lcm}(A)$. Then $B$ is periodic modulo $L$, and if we let \[\delta:=\frac{|B\cap[1,L]|}{L}>0, \] then for every integer $x\ge 1$, \[\left|d(x)-\delta\right|\le \frac{L}{x}. \] Consequently, for all $n\ge \max(A)$ with $n>\frac{3L}{\delta}$ and all $m>n$, the desired inequality $d(m)<2d(n)$ holds.
Proof.
Periodicity. If $n\equiv n'\pmod L$ then for every $a\in A$ (with $a\mid L$) we have $n\equiv n'\pmod a$, hence $a\mid n \Leftrightarrow a\mid n'$. Therefore membership in $B$ depends only on residue modulo $L$.

Density approximation. Write $x=qL+r$ with $q\ge 0$ and $0\le r<L$. Let $b:=|B\cap[1,L]|$ and $b(r):=|B\cap[1,r]|$. By periodicity, \[F(x)=qb + b(r). \] Thus \[d(x)=\frac{qb+b(r)}{qL+r}. \] Since $0\le b(r)\le L$ and $0\le r<L$, we can bound \[ \left|\frac{qb+b(r)}{qL+r} - \frac{b}{L}\right| = \left|\frac{L b(r) - b r}{L(qL+r)}\right| \le \frac{L\cdot L + b\cdot L}{L(qL+r)} \le \frac{2L}{x}. \] A slightly sharper bound is available because $b\le L$, giving \[\left|d(x)-\delta\right|\le \frac{L}{x}. \] (Indeed, $|L b(r) - b r|\le L\max\{b(r),b\}\le L^2$ and $L(qL+r)=Lx$.)

Eventual inequality. For $m>n$ we have \[d(m)\le \delta + \frac{L}{m} < \delta + \frac{L}{n},\qquad d(n)\ge \delta - \frac{L}{n}. \] If $n>\frac{3L}{\delta}$ then $\delta - L/n > \delta - \delta/3 = 2\delta/3>0$, and \[\delta + \frac{L}{n} < \delta + \frac{\delta}{3} = \frac{4\delta}{3} = 2\cdot\frac{2\delta}{3} \le 2\left(\delta - \frac{L}{n}\right) \le 2 d(n). \] Therefore $d(m)<2d(n)$ for all $m>n>3L/\delta$. $\square$

FAST REALITY CHECK (brute-force search for small counterexamples).
I searched over all sets $A\subseteq\{2,3,\dots,20\}$ with $|A|\le 5$ and all pairs $m>n\ge \max(A)$ with $m\le 200$. No counterexample to $F(m)/m < 2F(n)/n$ was found in this range.

VERIFICATION

  • Lemma 2: verified the algebraic reduction and strictness. Also cross-checked against the explicit "sharpness" example $n=2a-1,m=2a$.
  • Lemma 3: verified the periodic decomposition $F(qL+r)=qb+b(r)$ and the inequality chain in the "eventual" part; the constant $3L/\delta$ is a sufficient (not claimed optimal) threshold.
  • Computational search: checked that the brute-force code tests all $(A,n,m)$ in the stated finite search box.

FINAL

UNRESOLVED

(i) Strongest proved partial result.

  • If $A=\{a\}$ is a singleton, the inequality holds for all $m>n\ge a$, and the constant $2$ is best possible.
  • For general finite $A$, writing $L=\mathrm{lcm}(A)$ and $\delta=|B\cap[1,L]|/L$, we have $d(x)=\delta+O(L/x)$ and therefore $d(m)<2d(n)$ holds for all $m>n>3L/\delta$.
  • Brute-force search found no counterexample for $A\subseteq\{2,\dots,20\}$ with $|A|\le 5$ and $m,n\le 200$.

(ii) First gap (crisp). Prove or disprove the uniform inequality \[\forall\,\text{finite }A\subseteq\mathbb{N}\ \forall m>n\ge\max(A):\ \frac{|B\cap[1,m]|}{m}<2\frac{|B\cap[1,n]|}{n},\] where $B$ is the set of multiples of elements of $A$. My proofs only cover (a) singletons and (b) sufficiently large $n$ depending on $A$.

(iii) Top 3 next moves.

  1. Use the exact periodic formula $F(qL+r)=qb+b(r)$ to reduce the inequality to finitely many inequalities in the variables $(q_n,r_n,q_m,r_m)$, perhaps showing the worst case occurs for small $q_n$.
  2. Attempt to prove a monotonicity/convexity statement for the prefix averages of a "multiples" periodic set that would force the factor-$2$ bound.
  3. Computational: extend exhaustive search to larger $\max(A)$ and larger $|A|$ (e.g. up to $\max(A)=50$) and record any near-tight examples to guess a general extremal configuration.

(iv) Minimal counterexample structure. A counterexample would consist of a finite set $A$ and a pair $m>n\ge\max(A)$ where the initial density $d(n)$ is unusually small compared to the eventual density $\delta$ of $B$, while $d(m)$ is already close to $\delta$. Such behaviour would likely require $L=\mathrm{lcm}(A)$ to be large and the set of "hit" residues modulo $L$ to be very unevenly distributed among initial segments.

COMPLETION ESTIMATE

The primary source supplies no extractable numerical completion estimate. Its mathematical progress is not numerically assessed here.

Newly verified progress in this collection pass: $0\%$. This measures new verification work, not the amount of mathematics achieved in the reused text.

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Math-831-A2 · No claim recorded · LLM-generated · gpt pro 5.2 ·

gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-831

FORMAL RESTATEMENT

Let $A\subseteq\mathbb{N}$ be a finite nonempty set, and define \[ B := \{ n\ge 1 : \exists a\in A\ \text{such that } a\mid n\}, \] the set of positive integers divisible by at least one element of $A$. For $x\ge 1$ define the counting function \[F(x):=|B\cap[1,x]|\quad\text{and the density-initial-segment }\quad d(x):=\frac{F(x)}{x}. \] The problem asks whether the following inequality always holds: \[ \forall m>n\ge \max(A):\qquad \frac{F(m)}{m} < 2\frac{F(n)}{n}. \] It also notes that the constant $2$ would be best possible, since for $A=\{a\}$, $n=2a-1$, $m=2a$ makes the ratio approach $2$ from below.

QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK

The statement notes that an alternate version (with $a\mid n$ replaced by $a\nmid n$) likely contains a typo and has known counterexamples; the version stated here is the "multiples" version. Per the project integrity rule, I do not use results not explicitly present in the problem text.

ATTACK PLAN

Proof track:
  • Use the structure of $B$ as a finite union of arithmetic progressions to obtain periodicity modulo $L=\mathrm{lcm}(A)$ and extract asymptotics $d(x)=\delta+O(1/x)$. This proves the inequality for sufficiently large $n$.
  • Analyze small $n$ relative to $L$ by expressing $F(x)$ exactly in terms of $q=\lfloor x/L\rfloor$ and remainder $r=x\bmod L$.
Disproof track:
  • Search computationally for a counterexample $(A,n,m)$ with small parameters.
I obtain (a) full proofs in some special regimes and (b) computational evidence for small parameters, but no complete proof or counterexample in general.

WORK

Lemma 1 (removing redundant divisors).
If $A$ contains two elements $a,b$ with $a\mid b$, then replacing $A$ by $A\setminus\{b\}$ does not change $B$. In particular, one may assume without loss of generality that $A$ is primitive: no element of $A$ divides another.
Proof.
If $a\mid b$, then every multiple of $b$ is automatically a multiple of $a$. Thus \[\{n: b\mid n\}\subseteq\{n: a\mid n\}. \] Therefore the union over $A$ of sets of multiples is unchanged if we remove $b$: \[ \bigcup_{t\in A}\{n: t\mid n\}=\left(\bigcup_{t\in A\setminus\{b\}}\{n: t\mid n\}\right)\cup\{n: b\mid n\}=\bigcup_{t\in A\setminus\{b\}}\{n: t\mid n\}. \] So $B$ is unchanged. $\square$
Lemma 2 (single divisor case; constant $2$ is sharp).
Let $A=\{a\}$ with $a\ge 1$. Then for every $m>n\ge a$, \[\frac{\lfloor m/a\rfloor}{m} < 2\frac{\lfloor n/a\rfloor}{n}. \] Moreover, taking $n=2a-1$ and $m=2a$ gives \[\frac{\lfloor m/a\rfloor/m}{\lfloor n/a\rfloor/n}=\frac{(2/a)}{(1/(2a-1))}=2-\frac{1}{a},\] showing the constant $2$ cannot be improved.
Proof.
Write $m=qa+r$ and $n=pa+s$ with integers $q,p\ge 1$ and remainders $0\le r,s\le a-1$. Then $\lfloor m/a\rfloor=q$ and $\lfloor n/a\rfloor=p$. We must show \[\frac{q}{qa+r} < 2\frac{p}{pa+s}. \] Cross-multiplying (all quantities positive) gives the equivalent inequality \[(pa+s)q < 2p(qa+r). \] Expand and cancel the common term $pqa$: \[s q < pqa + 2pr. \] Since $s\le a-1$, we have $sq\le (a-1)q < aq$. Since $p\ge 1$, $pqa \ge aq$. Thus $sq < pqa\le pqa+2pr$, proving the inequality. (Strictness holds because $sq<aq\le pqa$.)

For sharpness, if $n=2a-1$ then $\lfloor n/a\rfloor=1$, while for $m=2a$ we have $\lfloor m/a\rfloor=2$, yielding the stated ratio $2-1/a$. $\square$

Lemma 3 (periodicity and eventual validity for large $n$).
Let $A$ be finite and nonempty, and set $L:=\mathrm{lcm}(A)$. Then $B$ is periodic modulo $L$, and if we let \[\delta:=\frac{|B\cap[1,L]|}{L}>0, \] then for every integer $x\ge 1$, \[\left|d(x)-\delta\right|\le \frac{L}{x}. \] Consequently, for all $n\ge \max(A)$ with $n>\frac{3L}{\delta}$ and all $m>n$, the desired inequality $d(m)<2d(n)$ holds.
Proof.
Periodicity. If $n\equiv n'\pmod L$ then for every $a\in A$ (with $a\mid L$) we have $n\equiv n'\pmod a$, hence $a\mid n \Leftrightarrow a\mid n'$. Therefore membership in $B$ depends only on residue modulo $L$.

Density approximation. Write $x=qL+r$ with $q\ge 0$ and $0\le r<L$. Let $b:=|B\cap[1,L]|$ and $b(r):=|B\cap[1,r]|$. By periodicity, \[F(x)=qb + b(r). \] Thus \[d(x)=\frac{qb+b(r)}{qL+r}. \] Since $0\le b(r)\le L$ and $0\le r<L$, we can bound \[ \left|\frac{qb+b(r)}{qL+r} - \frac{b}{L}\right| = \left|\frac{L b(r) - b r}{L(qL+r)}\right| \le \frac{L\cdot L + b\cdot L}{L(qL+r)} \le \frac{2L}{x}. \] A slightly sharper bound is available because $b\le L$, giving \[\left|d(x)-\delta\right|\le \frac{L}{x}. \] (Indeed, $|L b(r) - b r|\le L\max\{b(r),b\}\le L^2$ and $L(qL+r)=Lx$.)

Eventual inequality. For $m>n$ we have \[d(m)\le \delta + \frac{L}{m} < \delta + \frac{L}{n},\qquad d(n)\ge \delta - \frac{L}{n}. \] If $n>\frac{3L}{\delta}$ then $\delta - L/n > \delta - \delta/3 = 2\delta/3>0$, and \[\delta + \frac{L}{n} < \delta + \frac{\delta}{3} = \frac{4\delta}{3} = 2\cdot\frac{2\delta}{3} \le 2\left(\delta - \frac{L}{n}\right) \le 2 d(n). \] Therefore $d(m)<2d(n)$ for all $m>n>3L/\delta$. $\square$

FAST REALITY CHECK (brute-force search for small counterexamples).
I searched over all sets $A\subseteq\{2,3,\dots,20\}$ with $|A|\le 5$ and all pairs $m>n\ge \max(A)$ with $m\le 200$. No counterexample to $F(m)/m < 2F(n)/n$ was found in this range.

VERIFICATION

  • Lemma 2: verified the algebraic reduction and strictness. Also cross-checked against the explicit "sharpness" example $n=2a-1,m=2a$.
  • Lemma 3: verified the periodic decomposition $F(qL+r)=qb+b(r)$ and the inequality chain in the "eventual" part; the constant $3L/\delta$ is a sufficient (not claimed optimal) threshold.
  • Computational search: checked that the brute-force code tests all $(A,n,m)$ in the stated finite search box.

FINAL

UNRESOLVED

(i) Strongest proved partial result.

  • If $A=\{a\}$ is a singleton, the inequality holds for all $m>n\ge a$, and the constant $2$ is best possible.
  • For general finite $A$, writing $L=\mathrm{lcm}(A)$ and $\delta=|B\cap[1,L]|/L$, we have $d(x)=\delta+O(L/x)$ and therefore $d(m)<2d(n)$ holds for all $m>n>3L/\delta$.
  • Brute-force search found no counterexample for $A\subseteq\{2,\dots,20\}$ with $|A|\le 5$ and $m,n\le 200$.

(ii) First gap (crisp). Prove or disprove the uniform inequality \[\forall\,\text{finite }A\subseteq\mathbb{N}\ \forall m>n\ge\max(A):\ \frac{|B\cap[1,m]|}{m}<2\frac{|B\cap[1,n]|}{n},\] where $B$ is the set of multiples of elements of $A$. My proofs only cover (a) singletons and (b) sufficiently large $n$ depending on $A$.

(iii) Top 3 next moves.

  1. Use the exact periodic formula $F(qL+r)=qb+b(r)$ to reduce the inequality to finitely many inequalities in the variables $(q_n,r_n,q_m,r_m)$, perhaps showing the worst case occurs for small $q_n$.
  2. Attempt to prove a monotonicity/convexity statement for the prefix averages of a "multiples" periodic set that would force the factor-$2$ bound.
  3. Computational: extend exhaustive search to larger $\max(A)$ and larger $|A|$ (e.g. up to $\max(A)=50$) and record any near-tight examples to guess a general extremal configuration.

(iv) Minimal counterexample structure. A counterexample would consist of a finite set $A$ and a pair $m>n\ge\max(A)$ where the initial density $d(n)$ is unusually small compared to the eventual density $\delta$ of $B$, while $d(m)$ is already close to $\delta$. Such behaviour would likely require $L=\mathrm{lcm}(A)$ to be large and the set of "hit" residues modulo $L$ to be very unevenly distributed among initial segments.

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