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Erdős Problem #36

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Statement

Let $N\ge 1$ and let $A\sqcup B=\{1,2,\dots,2N\}$ be a partition with $|A|=|B|=N$. For an integer $x$, define \[ r(x):=\#\{(a,b)\in A\times B: a-b=x\}. \] Equivalently, $r(x)=(1_A\ast 1_{-B})(x)$ is a cross-correlation count. The minimum overlap problem asks for the optimal constant $c>0$ such that for all sufficiently large $N$, every such partition satisfies \[ \max_x r(x)\ \ge\ cN. \]

Restatement from Math-652-A3 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.

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Math-652-A9 · No claim recorded · LLM-generated · gpt pro 5.4 ·

gpt pro 5.4 attempt on Math-652, version 5

Round 4: A strict asymptotic improvement beyond $1/\sqrt 8$

Round-4 objective

We continue on path (A) (proof direction). Round 3 showed that the entire variance-only strategy is blocked at the constant $1/\sqrt 8$. The most promising next step is therefore to add one genuinely new structural ingredient. In this round we use a finite subset of the Fourier-sign constraints from the continuous Swinnerton-Dyer--Haugland model, and show that these constraints already force a strict asymptotic improvement over the Round 2 bound. The new conclusion is: \[ c\;>\;\frac{1}{\sqrt 8}, \] where $c=\lim_{N\to\infty} M(N)/N$ is the minimum overlap constant. The gain is non-explicit, but rigorous.

Round-3 foundation used

We use the following Round 3 outputs as black boxes:
  • Theorem 36.5: the universal lower bound $M(N)\ge N/\sqrt{8-1/N^2}>N/\sqrt 8$.
  • Theorem 36.8: the constant $1/\sqrt 8$ is a genuine barrier for any argument using only bounded variance of the difference law.
  • The qualitative lesson extracted in Round 3: any improvement beyond $1/\sqrt 8$ must come from additional structure of the overlap function, not from variance alone.

New insight / tool (Round-4)

The new ingredient is a finite Fourier obstruction. Working in the continuous model for the minimum overlap constant, White records two key necessary properties of every overlap function $M$:
  1. $\operatorname{Var}(M)\le 2/3$,
  2. $\int_{-2}^{2}\cos(\pi kx)M(x)\,dx\le 0$ for every integer $k\ge 1$.
Round 2 used only the first item. We show here that adding only the four frequencies \[ k\in\{3,4,7,12\} \] already rules out every variance-extremizing density. This yields a compactness proof that the optimal constant is not merely $\ge 1/\sqrt 8$, but in fact strictly larger.

Attack plan (Round-4)

The exact gap left after Round 3 is that the bound $1/\sqrt 8$ might conceivably still be the true infimum of the continuous relaxation, even though the variance-only method cannot prove anything larger. To close that gap we proceed as follows:
  1. Pass to the continuous overlap model, which equals the asymptotic constant $c$.
  2. Relax to a larger compact class $\mathcal C_4$ of densities satisfying only the necessary conditions: nonnegativity, total mass $1$, height at most $1$, variance at most $2/3$, and the four cosine-sign inequalities for $k=3,4,7,12$.
  3. Show that a minimizer of $\|M\|_\infty$ over $\mathcal C_4$ exists.
  4. Show that if this minimum were $1/\sqrt 8$, then the minimizer would have to be the uniform density on an interval of length $2\sqrt 2$.
  5. Prove that no such interval density can satisfy the four cosine-sign constraints.
This overcomes the Round 3 obstruction: the variance extremizers are now excluded by an additional finite piece of structure.

Work (Round-4)

Let $M(N)$ denote the discrete minimum-overlap quantity and let \[ c:=\lim_{N\to\infty} \frac{M(N)}{N}. \] We use the following external theorem.

External theorem (Swinnerton-Dyer--Haugland, as quoted by White). The constant $c$ equals the infimum of $\|M_f\|_\infty$ over all measurable $f:[-1,1]\to[0,1]$ with $\int_{-1}^{1}f=1$, where \[ M_f(x):=\int_{-1}^{1} f(t)(1-f(x+t))\,dt,\qquad x\in[-2,2]. \] Moreover every such $M_f$ satisfies \[ 0\le M_f(x)\le 1,\qquad \int_{-2}^{2} M_f(x)\,dx=1, \] \[ \int_{-2}^{2}(x-E(M_f))^2M_f(x)\,dx\le \frac23, \] and \[ \int_{-2}^{2}\cos(\pi kx)M_f(x)\,dx\le 0\qquad (k\ge 1). \]

Motivated by this, define $\mathcal C_4$ to be the class of all measurable functions $M:[-2,2]\to[0,1]$ such that \[ \int_{-2}^{2} M(x)\,dx=1, \qquad \int_{-2}^{2}(x-E(M))^2M(x)\,dx\le \frac23, \] and \[ \int_{-2}^{2}\cos(\pi kx)M(x)\,dx\le 0 \qquad \text{for each }k\in\{3,4,7,12\}, \] where \[ E(M):=\int_{-2}^{2} xM(x)\,dx. \] Since every genuine overlap function $M_f$ lies in $\mathcal C_4$, we have \[ c\ge \lambda_4, \qquad \lambda_4:=\inf_{M\in\mathcal C_4}\|M\|_\infty. \] We therefore seek a lower bound for $\lambda_4$.

Lemma 36.10 (continuous variance bound with equality case). Let $M$ be a probability density on $\mathbb R$, i.e. $M\ge 0$, $\int_{\mathbb R}M=1$, and assume $\|M\|_\infty\le \Omega$. Then \[ \operatorname{Var}(M)\ge \frac{1}{12\Omega^2}. \] Equality holds if and only if \[ M(x)=\Omega\,\mathbf 1_I(x) \] for some interval $I\subset \mathbb R$ of length $|I|=1/\Omega$.

Proof. Write $\mu:=E(M)$ and let $X$ be a random variable with density $M$. For every $r\ge 0$, \[ \mathbb P(|X-\mu|\le r)=\int_{\mu-r}^{\mu+r}M(x)\,dx\le 2\Omega r. \] Hence \[ \mathbb P(|X-\mu|>r)\ge \max(0,1-2\Omega r). \] Using the tail-integral identity, \[ \operatorname{Var}(M)=\mathbb E[(X-\mu)^2] =\int_0^{\infty}2r\,\mathbb P(|X-\mu|>r)\,dr \ge \int_0^{1/(2\Omega)}2r(1-2\Omega r)\,dr =\frac{1}{12\Omega^2}. \] Now suppose equality holds. Then equality must hold at every step above, so for every $0\le r\le 1/(2\Omega)$, \[ \int_{\mu-r}^{\mu+r}M(x)\,dx=2\Omega r, \] and for every $r\ge 1/(2\Omega)$, $ \mathbb P(|X-\mu|>r)=0 $. The second condition shows that $M$ is supported on $[\mu-1/(2\Omega),\mu+1/(2\Omega)]$. The first condition implies that on each symmetric interval about $\mu$, the average value of $M$ is exactly $\Omega$; since $M\le \Omega$ a.e., this forces $M(x)=\Omega$ almost everywhere on $[\mu-1/(2\Omega),\mu+1/(2\Omega)]$. Because the total mass is $1$, the interval length is exactly $1/\Omega$. Conversely, the uniform density on any interval of length $1/\Omega$ has variance $1/(12\Omega^2)$. $\square$

Lemma 36.11 (interval extremizers violate a finite Fourier-sign set). For each real $c$, define \[ J_c(x):=\frac{1}{2\sqrt 2}\,\mathbf 1_{[c-\sqrt 2,\,c+\sqrt 2]}(x). \] Assume that $[c-\sqrt 2,c+\sqrt 2]\subset[-2,2]$, equivalently $ |c|\le 2-\sqrt 2 $. Then there exists $k\in\{3,4,7,12\}$ such that \[ \int_{-2}^{2}\cos(\pi kx)J_c(x)\,dx>0. \] In particular, no density of the form $J_c$ belongs to $\mathcal C_4$.

Proof. A direct computation gives, for every integer $k\ge 1$, \[ \int_{-2}^{2}\cos(\pi kx)J_c(x)\,dx =\frac{1}{2\sqrt 2}\int_{c-\sqrt 2}^{c+\sqrt 2}\cos(\pi kx)\,dx =\frac{\sin(\pi k\sqrt 2)}{\pi k\sqrt 2}\cos(\pi kc). \] We now analyze signs. Since \[ 3\sqrt 2\in(4,9/2),\qquad 4\sqrt 2\in(11/2,6),\qquad 7\sqrt 2\in(19/2,10),\qquad 12\sqrt 2\in(16,17), \] we have \[ \sin(3\pi\sqrt 2)>0, \qquad \sin(4\pi\sqrt 2)<0, \qquad \sin(7\pi\sqrt 2)<0, \qquad \sin(12\pi\sqrt 2)>0. \] We partition the admissible range $|c|\le 2-\sqrt 2$ into cases.

Case 1: $|c|\le 1/8$. Then $3\pi|c|\le 3\pi/8<\pi/2$, so $\cos(3\pi c)>0$. Since $\sin(3\pi\sqrt 2)>0$, the $k=3$ coefficient is positive.

Case 2: $1/8<|c|<3/8$. Then $4\pi|c|\in(\pi/2,3\pi/2)$, so $\cos(4\pi c)<0$. Since $\sin(4\pi\sqrt 2)<0$, the $k=4$ coefficient is positive.

Case 3: $3/8\le |c|<1/2$. Then \[ 7\pi|c|\in[21\pi/8,7\pi/2). \] Reducing modulo $2\pi$, this lies in $[5\pi/8,3\pi/2)$, where cosine is negative. Hence $\cos(7\pi c)<0$. Since $\sin(7\pi\sqrt 2)<0$, the $k=7$ coefficient is positive.

Case 4: $|c|=1/2$. Then \[ \cos(12\pi c)=\cos(6\pi)=1, \] and since $\sin(12\pi\sqrt 2)>0$, the $k=12$ coefficient is positive.

Case 5: $1/2<|c|\le 2-\sqrt 2$. Because $2-\sqrt 2<2/3$, we have \[ 3\pi|c|\in(3\pi/2,2\pi), \] so $\cos(3\pi c)>0$. Again the $k=3$ coefficient is positive.

All cases yield a positive cosine coefficient for some $k\in\{3,4,7,12\}$. $\square$

Theorem 36.12 (four Fourier inequalities already beat the variance barrier). The infimum $\lambda_4=\inf_{M\in\mathcal C_4}\|M\|_\infty$ is attained, and satisfies \[ \lambda_4>\frac{1}{\sqrt 8}. \]

Proof. Let \[ B:=\{M\in L^\infty([-2,2]): \|M\|_\infty\le 1\}. \] By Banach--Alaoglu, $B$ is weak-* compact in $L^\infty([-2,2])=(L^1([-2,2]))^*$. Now set \[ K:=\{M\in B: 0\le M\le 1\ \text{a.e.}\}. \] We claim that $K$ is weak-* closed in $B$. Indeed, if $M_n\in K$ and $M_n\rightharpoonup^* M$, then for every nonnegative $\varphi\in L^1([-2,2])$, \[ \int_{-2}^{2}\varphi(x)M(x)\,dx=\lim_{n\to\infty}\int_{-2}^{2}\varphi(x)M_n(x)\,dx\ge 0, \] so $M\ge 0$ a.e.; applying the same argument to $1-M_n$ gives $1-M\ge 0$ a.e. Hence $K$ is weak-* compact. The class $\mathcal C_4$ is weak-* closed inside $K$, because the maps \[ M\mapsto \int_{-2}^{2}M(x)\,dx, \qquad M\mapsto \int_{-2}^{2}xM(x)\,dx, \qquad M\mapsto \int_{-2}^{2}x^2M(x)\,dx, \] and \[ M\mapsto \int_{-2}^{2}\cos(\pi kx)M(x)\,dx \qquad (k\in\{3,4,7,12\}) \] are all weak-* continuous. Hence $\mathcal C_4$ is weak-* compact. Since the $L^\infty$-norm is weak-* lower semicontinuous, there exists $M_*\in\mathcal C_4$ such that $ \|M_*\|_\infty=\lambda_4 $.

Now Lemma 36.10 applied to $M_*$ gives \[ \operatorname{Var}(M_*)\ge \frac{1}{12\lambda_4^2}. \] But $M_*\in\mathcal C_4$, so $\operatorname{Var}(M_*)\le 2/3$. Therefore \[ \frac{1}{12\lambda_4^2}\le \frac23, \qquad\text{hence}\qquad \lambda_4\ge \frac{1}{\sqrt 8}. \] Suppose for contradiction that $\lambda_4=1/\sqrt 8$. Then \[ \operatorname{Var}(M_*)\le \frac23 = \frac{1}{12\lambda_4^2}, \] so equality holds in Lemma 36.10. Hence \[ M_*(x)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt 2}\,\mathbf 1_{[c-\sqrt 2,\,c+\sqrt 2]}(x) \] for some real $c$. Because $M_*$ is supported in $[-2,2]$, necessarily $|c|\le 2-\sqrt 2$. But Lemma 36.11 shows that such a density violates at least one of the four cosine-sign constraints defining $\mathcal C_4$, contradiction. Therefore $\lambda_4>1/\sqrt 8$. $\square$

Corollary 36.13 (strict asymptotic improvement). Let $c$ be the minimum overlap constant. Then there exists $\eta>0$ such that \[ c\ge \frac{1}{\sqrt 8}+\eta. \] In particular, \[ c>\frac{1}{\sqrt 8}. \]

Proof. Every genuine overlap function $M_f$ belongs to $\mathcal C_4$, so \[ c=\inf_f \|M_f\|_\infty\ge \inf_{M\in\mathcal C_4}\|M\|_\infty=\lambda_4. \] By Theorem 36.12, $\lambda_4>1/\sqrt 8$. Setting $\eta:=\lambda_4-1/\sqrt 8$ gives the claim. $\square$

Adversarial verification

  • Use of Round 3. The proof genuinely builds on Round 3's diagnosis that variance alone is insufficient. The new input is precisely the finite Fourier-sign set $k\in\{3,4,7,12\}$.
  • Compactness step. We minimize over the larger relaxed class $\mathcal C_4$, not over the genuine overlap class. This is deliberate: a lower bound for the larger class is automatically a lower bound for the actual problem since every overlap function lies in $\mathcal C_4$.
  • Lower semicontinuity. The weak-* lower semicontinuity of the $L^\infty$-norm is standard. This is enough to ensure the infimum over the weak-* compact class $\mathcal C_4$ is attained.
  • Equality case in Lemma 36.10. The proof forces equality simultaneously in the tail bound and in the support truncation, which leaves only the uniform interval density. No other shape can attain the variance minimum under a height cap.
  • Coverage of all centers $c$. The case split in Lemma 36.11 covers the full admissible interval $|c|\le 2-\sqrt 2$. Endpoints $|c|=1/2$ are handled separately because the $k=7$ coefficient vanishes there.
  • Scope of the conclusion. The theorem proves a strict asymptotic improvement, but it does not produce an explicit numerical value of $\eta$. So it does not compete with the best known explicit lower bounds; it isolates the obstruction more sharply and proves that the Round 2/3 barrier is not the true asymptotic threshold.

Final

UNRESOLVED (but strictly advanced). We have now proved a new theorem beyond Round 3: there exists $\eta>0$ such that the minimum overlap constant satisfies \[ c\ge \frac{1}{\sqrt 8}+\eta. \] Thus the Round 2 constant $1/\sqrt 8$ is not merely a barrier of the variance-only method; it is not the true asymptotic value even in the relaxed class obtained by adding only four Fourier-sign constraints. The remaining gap is quantitative: we do not yet have an explicit lower bound for $\eta$.

Completion estimate

COMPLETION: 68%.

References

  • Round 3 notes in 36_solutions.tex.
  • Ethan Patrick White, "Erdős' minimum overlap problem," arXiv:2201.05704.
  • J. K. Haugland, "The minimum overlap problem revisited," arXiv:1609.08000 (for the Swinnerton-Dyer/Haugland continuous reformulation context).

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Math-652-A8 · No claim recorded · LLM-generated · gpt pro 5.4 ·

gpt pro 5.4 attempt on Math-652, version 4

Round 3: Sharpness of the variance method and a barrier at $1/\sqrt 8$

Round-3 objective

We pursue path (A) (proof direction), but in "gap-closure" mode: the Round 2 lower bound $c\ge 1/\sqrt 8$ is still far below the current record range. The main goal of this round is to isolate (with proof) why the variance method of Round 2 cannot be pushed past $1/\sqrt 8$ without injecting genuinely new structure. Concretely, we prove that both ingredients of Round 2---the variance upper bound (Lemma 36.3) and the atom/variance lower bound (Lemma 36.4)---are individually sharp, and hence the constant $1/\sqrt 8$ is an intrinsic barrier for any argument that treats $D=a-b$ only as an arbitrary integer-valued law with bounded variance.

For context (not used in the proofs below), the current record bounds for the asymptotic constant are extremely narrow: $0.379005 < c < 0.380924$ (White's lower bound and AlphaEvolve's upper bound).

Round-2 foundation used

We use the following Round 2 statements as black boxes:
  • Lemma 36.3: for every partition $A\sqcup B=[2N]$ with $|A|=|B|=N$, the random difference $D=a-b$ satisfies $\mathrm{Var}(D)\le (4N^2-1)/6$.
  • Lemma 36.4: for any integer-valued random variable $X$ with $\max_k \mathbb P(X=k)\le p$, $\mathrm{Var}(X)\ge 1/(12p^2)-1/12$.
  • Theorem 36.5: combining the two yields $\max_x r(x)\ge N/\sqrt{8-1/N^2}>N/\sqrt 8$.

New insight / tool (Round-3)

The new content is a sharpness and barrier analysis:
  • We identify an equality case for Lemma 36.4 (discrete uniform distributions), proving that Lemma 36.4 cannot be improved under its stated hypotheses.
  • We give an explicit partition $A\sqcup B=[2N]$ (for even $N$) achieving equality in Lemma 36.3, proving that the variance upper bound is also best possible.
  • We combine these to formalize a "variance-method barrier": no proof that only inputs "$D$ is integer-valued" and "$\mathrm{Var}(D)\le (4N^2-1)/6$" can yield a universal constant better than $1/\sqrt 8$.
  • As a byproduct, we extract a structural necessary condition: any near-extremal configuration with $\max_x r(x)$ close to $N/\sqrt 8$ must have its first moment nearly balanced ($\sum_{a\in A} a$ close to $\sum_{b\in B} b$).

Attack plan (Round-3)

The gap after Round 2 is that the best-known constants are near $0.38$, while the variance method yields only $1/\sqrt 8\approx 0.3536$. To understand what is missing, we:
  1. prove sharpness of the atom/variance inequality (Lemma 36.4);
  2. prove sharpness of the variance upper bound (Lemma 36.3);
  3. conclude that improving Theorem 36.5 requires new constraints on the law of $D$ beyond its variance (e.g. constraints coming from the fact that $D$ is a difference of two uniform measures supported on complementary subsets of $[2N]$).

Work (Round-3)

Lemma 36.6 (sharpness of Lemma 36.4). For each integer $m\ge 0$, let $X$ be uniform on $\{-m,-m+1,\dots,m\}$. Then $\max_k \mathbb P(X=k)=p=1/(2m+1)$ and \[ \mathrm{Var}(X)=\frac{1}{12p^2}-\frac{1}{12}. \] In particular, Lemma 36.4 is best possible as stated.

Proof. Here $p=1/(2m+1)$. By symmetry $\mathbb E[X]=0$ and \[ \mathrm{Var}(X)=\mathbb E[X^2]=\frac{1}{2m+1}\sum_{k=-m}^m k^2 =\frac{2}{2m+1}\sum_{k=1}^m k^2 =\frac{2}{2m+1}\cdot\frac{m(m+1)(2m+1)}{6} =\frac{m(m+1)}{3}. \] On the other hand, \[ \frac{1}{12p^2}-\frac{1}{12}=\frac{(2m+1)^2-1}{12}=\frac{4m(m+1)}{12}=\frac{m(m+1)}{3}, \] so equality holds. $\square$

Lemma 36.7 (sharpness of Lemma 36.3 for even $N$). Assume $N$ is even and set \[ A:=\{1,2,\dots,\tfrac{N}{2}\}\ \cup\ \{\tfrac{3N}{2}+1,\tfrac{3N}{2}+2,\dots,2N\}, \qquad B:=[2N]\setminus A. \] Then $|A|=|B|=N$ and for the associated random difference $D=a-b$, \[ \mathrm{Var}(D)=\frac{4N^2-1}{6}. \] Hence the variance upper bound of Lemma 36.3 is attained.

Proof. The set $A$ consists of $N/2$ pairs $(i,2N+1-i)$ for $1\le i\le N/2$. Each such pair sums to $2N+1$, hence \[ A_1:=\sum_{a\in A} a=\frac{N}{2}(2N+1)=\frac{S}{2}, \qquad S:=\sum_{j=1}^{2N} j = N(2N+1). \] Therefore also $B_1=S-A_1=S/2$, i.e. $A_1=B_1$. In the computation of Lemma 36.3 we had \[ \mathrm{Var}(D)=\frac{Q}{N}-\frac{A_1^2+B_1^2}{N^2}, \qquad Q:=\sum_{j=1}^{2N} j^2. \] Since $A_1=B_1=S/2$, we have $A_1^2+B_1^2=S^2/2$, which is exactly the minimal value used in Lemma 36.3. Thus equality holds throughout the proof of Lemma 36.3 and $\mathrm{Var}(D)=Q/N-S^2/(2N^2)=(4N^2-1)/6$. $\square$

Theorem 36.8 (variance-method barrier at $1/\sqrt 8$). Consider the class of all integer-valued random variables $X$ with $\mathrm{Var}(X)\le (4N^2-1)/6$. For such $X$, any lower bound of the form $\max_k \mathbb P(X=k)\ge C/N$ valid for all $N$ must satisfy $C\le 1/\sqrt 8$. Equivalently, the constant $1/\sqrt 8$ appearing in Theorem 36.5 is optimal for any argument that uses only the information "$D$ is integer-valued" and "$\mathrm{Var}(D)\le (4N^2-1)/6$".

Proof. Fix $N\ge 1$ and define $m:=\lfloor \sqrt{2}\,N-1\rfloor$. Let $X$ be uniform on $\{-m,-m+1,\dots,m\}$. Then by Lemma 36.6, \[ \max_k \mathbb P(X=k)=\frac{1}{2m+1} \quad\text{and}\quad \mathrm{Var}(X)=\frac{m(m+1)}{3}. \] Using $m\le \sqrt{2}N-1$, we have \[ m(m+1)\le (\sqrt{2}N-1)(\sqrt{2}N)=2N^2-\sqrt{2}N\le 2N^2-\tfrac12, \] hence \[ \mathrm{Var}(X)=\frac{m(m+1)}{3}\le \frac{2N^2-\tfrac12}{3}=\frac{4N^2-1}{6}. \] Therefore $X$ belongs to the stated variance-bounded class. But also \[ \frac{1}{2m+1}=\frac{1+o(1)}{2\sqrt{2}\,N}=\frac{1+o(1)}{\sqrt{8}\,N} \qquad (N\to\infty). \] Consequently, no universal inequality of the form $\max_k \mathbb P(X=k)\ge C/N$ can hold with $C>1/\sqrt 8$ on this class. $\square$

Corollary 36.9 (near-extremizers force near-balanced first moment). Let $A\sqcup B=[2N]$, $|A|=|B|=N$, and write $A_1:=\sum_{a\in A} a$, $S:=\sum_{j=1}^{2N} j=N(2N+1)$, and $\delta:=A_1-S/2$. Let $M:=\max_x r(x)$. Then \[ \delta^2\ \le\ \frac{N^2}{2}\left(\frac{4N^2-1}{6}-\frac{N^4}{12M^2}+\frac{1}{12}\right). \] In particular, if $M\le cN$ for some fixed $c$, then $|\delta|=O(N^2)$, and as $c\downarrow 1/\sqrt 8$ the right-hand side forces $|\delta|=o(N^2)$.

Proof. From the identity in the proof of Lemma 36.3 we have the exact formula \[ \mathrm{Var}(D)=\frac{Q}{N}-\frac{A_1^2+(S-A_1)^2}{N^2} =\frac{4N^2-1}{6}-\frac{2\delta^2}{N^2}. \] (Indeed, $A_1^2+(S-A_1)^2=2\delta^2+S^2/2$.) On the other hand, Theorem 36.5 begins with the inequality (from Lemma 36.4) $ \mathrm{Var}(D)\ge N^4/(12M^2)-1/12. $ Combining yields \[ \frac{4N^2-1}{6}-\frac{2\delta^2}{N^2}\ \ge\ \frac{N^4}{12M^2}-\frac{1}{12}, \] which rearranges to the claimed bound on $\delta^2$. $\square$

Adversarial verification

  • Lemma 36.6. The variance computation is exact and the equality check against $1/(12p^2)-1/12$ is algebraic; no hidden regularity assumptions are used.
  • Lemma 36.7. The construction requires $N$ even to make the endpoints $N/2$ and $3N/2$ integral. The sum identity uses the explicit pairing $(i,2N+1-i)$. Equality in Lemma 36.3 is correctly characterized by $A_1=B_1$, which holds here.
  • Theorem 36.8. We only claim a methodological barrier for variance-only arguments. The random variables $X$ used in the proof need not arise as $a-b$ for any partition; this is intentional, as the theorem is about what can be deduced from variance constraints alone.
  • Corollary 36.9. The exact variance formula is consistent with Lemma 36.3 (it immediately implies Lemma 36.3 because $\delta^2\ge 0$). The rearrangement is straightforward.

Final

UNRESOLVED (but strictly advanced). Beyond the Round 2 bound $c\ge 1/\sqrt 8$, we have now proved that $1/\sqrt 8$ is a genuine barrier for the entire "variance-only" proof strategy: improving the universal lower bound requires additional structural constraints on the representation function $r$, not just its second moment. We also extracted a quantitative structural condition (Corollary 36.9) showing that near-extremizers must have nearly balanced first moment.

Completion estimate

COMPLETION: 55%.

References

  • Round 2 notes in 36_v2.tex.
  • T. F. Bloom (ed.), Erdős Problem #36 discussion thread ("minimum overlap problem"), online resource.
  • Ethan Patrick White, "Erdős' minimum overlap problem," arXiv:2201.05704.

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Math-652-A7 · No claim recorded · LLM-generated · gpt pro 5.4 ·

gpt pro 5.4 attempt on Math-652, version 3

Round 3: Sharpness of the variance method and a barrier at $1/\sqrt 8$

Round-3 objective

We pursue path (A) (proof direction), but in "gap-closure" mode: the Round 2 lower bound $c\ge 1/\sqrt 8$ is still far below the current record range. The main goal of this round is to isolate (with proof) why the variance method of Round 2 cannot be pushed past $1/\sqrt 8$ without injecting genuinely new structure. Concretely, we prove that both ingredients of Round 2---the variance upper bound (Lemma 36.3) and the atom/variance lower bound (Lemma 36.4)---are individually sharp, and hence the constant $1/\sqrt 8$ is an intrinsic barrier for any argument that treats $D=a-b$ only as an arbitrary integer-valued law with bounded variance.

For context (not used in the proofs below), the current record bounds for the asymptotic constant are extremely narrow: $0.379005 < c < 0.380924$ (White's lower bound and AlphaEvolve's upper bound).

Round-2 foundation used

We use the following Round 2 statements as black boxes:
  • Lemma 36.3: for every partition $A\sqcup B=[2N]$ with $|A|=|B|=N$, the random difference $D=a-b$ satisfies $\mathrm{Var}(D)\le (4N^2-1)/6$.
  • Lemma 36.4: for any integer-valued random variable $X$ with $\max_k \mathbb P(X=k)\le p$, $\mathrm{Var}(X)\ge 1/(12p^2)-1/12$.
  • Theorem 36.5: combining the two yields $\max_x r(x)\ge N/\sqrt{8-1/N^2}>N/\sqrt 8$.

New insight / tool (Round-3)

The new content is a sharpness and barrier analysis:
  • We identify an equality case for Lemma 36.4 (discrete uniform distributions), proving that Lemma 36.4 cannot be improved under its stated hypotheses.
  • We give an explicit partition $A\sqcup B=[2N]$ (for even $N$) achieving equality in Lemma 36.3, proving that the variance upper bound is also best possible.
  • We combine these to formalize a "variance-method barrier": no proof that only inputs "$D$ is integer-valued" and "$\mathrm{Var}(D)\le (4N^2-1)/6$" can yield a universal constant better than $1/\sqrt 8$.
  • As a byproduct, we extract a structural necessary condition: any near-extremal configuration with $\max_x r(x)$ close to $N/\sqrt 8$ must have its first moment nearly balanced ($\sum_{a\in A} a$ close to $\sum_{b\in B} b$).

Attack plan (Round-3)

The gap after Round 2 is that the best-known constants are near $0.38$, while the variance method yields only $1/\sqrt 8\approx 0.3536$. To understand what is missing, we:
  1. prove sharpness of the atom/variance inequality (Lemma 36.4);
  2. prove sharpness of the variance upper bound (Lemma 36.3);
  3. conclude that improving Theorem 36.5 requires new constraints on the law of $D$ beyond its variance (e.g. constraints coming from the fact that $D$ is a difference of two uniform measures supported on complementary subsets of $[2N]$).

Work (Round-3)

Lemma 36.6 (sharpness of Lemma 36.4). For each integer $m\ge 0$, let $X$ be uniform on $\{-m,-m+1,\dots,m\}$. Then $\max_k \mathbb P(X=k)=p=1/(2m+1)$ and \[ \mathrm{Var}(X)=\frac{1}{12p^2}-\frac{1}{12}. \] In particular, Lemma 36.4 is best possible as stated.

Proof. Here $p=1/(2m+1)$. By symmetry $\mathbb E[X]=0$ and \[ \mathrm{Var}(X)=\mathbb E[X^2]=\frac{1}{2m+1}\sum_{k=-m}^m k^2 =\frac{2}{2m+1}\sum_{k=1}^m k^2 =\frac{2}{2m+1}\cdot\frac{m(m+1)(2m+1)}{6} =\frac{m(m+1)}{3}. \] On the other hand, \[ \frac{1}{12p^2}-\frac{1}{12}=\frac{(2m+1)^2-1}{12}=\frac{4m(m+1)}{12}=\frac{m(m+1)}{3}, \] so equality holds. $\square$

Lemma 36.7 (sharpness of Lemma 36.3 for even $N$). Assume $N$ is even and set \[ A:=\{1,2,\dots,\tfrac{N}{2}\}\ \cup\ \{\tfrac{3N}{2}+1,\tfrac{3N}{2}+2,\dots,2N\}, \qquad B:=[2N]\setminus A. \] Then $|A|=|B|=N$ and for the associated random difference $D=a-b$, \[ \mathrm{Var}(D)=\frac{4N^2-1}{6}. \] Hence the variance upper bound of Lemma 36.3 is attained.

Proof. The set $A$ consists of $N/2$ pairs $(i,2N+1-i)$ for $1\le i\le N/2$. Each such pair sums to $2N+1$, hence \[ A_1:=\sum_{a\in A} a=\frac{N}{2}(2N+1)=\frac{S}{2}, \qquad S:=\sum_{j=1}^{2N} j = N(2N+1). \] Therefore also $B_1=S-A_1=S/2$, i.e. $A_1=B_1$. In the computation of Lemma 36.3 we had \[ \mathrm{Var}(D)=\frac{Q}{N}-\frac{A_1^2+B_1^2}{N^2}, \qquad Q:=\sum_{j=1}^{2N} j^2. \] Since $A_1=B_1=S/2$, we have $A_1^2+B_1^2=S^2/2$, which is exactly the minimal value used in Lemma 36.3. Thus equality holds throughout the proof of Lemma 36.3 and $\mathrm{Var}(D)=Q/N-S^2/(2N^2)=(4N^2-1)/6$. $\square$

Theorem 36.8 (variance-method barrier at $1/\sqrt 8$). Consider the class of all integer-valued random variables $X$ with $\mathrm{Var}(X)\le (4N^2-1)/6$. For such $X$, any lower bound of the form $\max_k \mathbb P(X=k)\ge C/N$ valid for all $N$ must satisfy $C\le 1/\sqrt 8$. Equivalently, the constant $1/\sqrt 8$ appearing in Theorem 36.5 is optimal for any argument that uses only the information "$D$ is integer-valued" and "$\mathrm{Var}(D)\le (4N^2-1)/6$".

Proof. Fix $N\ge 1$ and define $m:=\lfloor \sqrt{2}\,N-1\rfloor$. Let $X$ be uniform on $\{-m,-m+1,\dots,m\}$. Then by Lemma 36.6, \[ \max_k \mathbb P(X=k)=\frac{1}{2m+1} \quad\text{and}\quad \mathrm{Var}(X)=\frac{m(m+1)}{3}. \] Using $m\le \sqrt{2}N-1$, we have \[ m(m+1)\le (\sqrt{2}N-1)(\sqrt{2}N)=2N^2-\sqrt{2}N\le 2N^2-\tfrac12, \] hence \[ \mathrm{Var}(X)=\frac{m(m+1)}{3}\le \frac{2N^2-\tfrac12}{3}=\frac{4N^2-1}{6}. \] Therefore $X$ belongs to the stated variance-bounded class. But also \[ \frac{1}{2m+1}=\frac{1+o(1)}{2\sqrt{2}\,N}=\frac{1+o(1)}{\sqrt{8}\,N} \qquad (N\to\infty). \] Consequently, no universal inequality of the form $\max_k \mathbb P(X=k)\ge C/N$ can hold with $C>1/\sqrt 8$ on this class. $\square$

Corollary 36.9 (near-extremizers force near-balanced first moment). Let $A\sqcup B=[2N]$, $|A|=|B|=N$, and write $A_1:=\sum_{a\in A} a$, $S:=\sum_{j=1}^{2N} j=N(2N+1)$, and $\delta:=A_1-S/2$. Let $M:=\max_x r(x)$. Then \[ \delta^2\ \le\ \frac{N^2}{2}\left(\frac{4N^2-1}{6}-\frac{N^4}{12M^2}+\frac{1}{12}\right). \] In particular, if $M\le cN$ for some fixed $c$, then $|\delta|=O(N^2)$, and as $c\downarrow 1/\sqrt 8$ the right-hand side forces $|\delta|=o(N^2)$.

Proof. From the identity in the proof of Lemma 36.3 we have the exact formula \[ \mathrm{Var}(D)=\frac{Q}{N}-\frac{A_1^2+(S-A_1)^2}{N^2} =\frac{4N^2-1}{6}-\frac{2\delta^2}{N^2}. \] (Indeed, $A_1^2+(S-A_1)^2=2\delta^2+S^2/2$.) On the other hand, Theorem 36.5 begins with the inequality (from Lemma 36.4) $ \mathrm{Var}(D)\ge N^4/(12M^2)-1/12. $ Combining yields \[ \frac{4N^2-1}{6}-\frac{2\delta^2}{N^2}\ \ge\ \frac{N^4}{12M^2}-\frac{1}{12}, \] which rearranges to the claimed bound on $\delta^2$. $\square$

Adversarial verification

  • Lemma 36.6. The variance computation is exact and the equality check against $1/(12p^2)-1/12$ is algebraic; no hidden regularity assumptions are used.
  • Lemma 36.7. The construction requires $N$ even to make the endpoints $N/2$ and $3N/2$ integral. The sum identity uses the explicit pairing $(i,2N+1-i)$. Equality in Lemma 36.3 is correctly characterized by $A_1=B_1$, which holds here.
  • Theorem 36.8. We only claim a methodological barrier for variance-only arguments. The random variables $X$ used in the proof need not arise as $a-b$ for any partition; this is intentional, as the theorem is about what can be deduced from variance constraints alone.
  • Corollary 36.9. The exact variance formula is consistent with Lemma 36.3 (it immediately implies Lemma 36.3 because $\delta^2\ge 0$). The rearrangement is straightforward.

Final

UNRESOLVED (but strictly advanced). Beyond the Round 2 bound $c\ge 1/\sqrt 8$, we have now proved that $1/\sqrt 8$ is a genuine barrier for the entire "variance-only" proof strategy: improving the universal lower bound requires additional structural constraints on the representation function $r$, not just its second moment. We also extracted a quantitative structural condition (Corollary 36.9) showing that near-extremizers must have nearly balanced first moment.

Completion estimate

COMPLETION: 55%.

References

  • Round 2 notes in 36_v2.tex.
  • T. F. Bloom (ed.), Erdős Problem #36 discussion thread ("minimum overlap problem"), online resource.
  • Ethan Patrick White, "Erdős' minimum overlap problem," arXiv:2201.05704.

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