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Erdős Problem #335

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Statement

Let $A,B\subseteq\mathbb{N}$ have (asymptotic) densities \[ d(A)=\lim_{N\to\infty}\frac{|A\cap[1,N]|}{N}=\alpha>0, \qquad d(B)=\lim_{N\to\infty}\frac{|B\cap[1,N]|}{N}=\beta>0. \] Define the sumset $A+B:=\{a+b: a\in A,\ b\in B\}$. The problem asks to characterize all pairs $(A,B)$ such that \[ d(A+B)=d(A)+d(B)=\alpha+\beta. \]

Restatement from Math-767-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.

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Erdős Problem 335: equality in the density of a sumset

Statement and scope

Characterize positive-density sets $A,B\subset\mathbb N$ with $d(A+B)=d(A)+d(B)$. We prove periodic, irrational-rotation, and random examples, including examples separated in density from every periodic set. A general characterization is unresolved here.

The periodic reduction retains a valid part of the earlier GPT-5.2 attempt. Its proposed periodic-only direction is insufficient, as the rotation examples show. Source and current structural results: https://www.erdosproblems.com/335. No new classification is claimed.

Periodic sets

If $A$ and $B$ are unions of residue classes $R,S$ modulo $q$, then \[ d(A)=|R|/q,\quad d(B)=|S|/q,\quad d(A+B)=|R+S|/q. \] The last statement is eventual: each residue in $R+S$ has a representation by two fixed positive representatives, and adding sufficiently many multiples of $q$ to one summand represents every sufficiently large integer of that residue. There can be finitely many initial omissions.

Thus the equality reduces exactly to $|R+S|=|R|+|S|$. For example $R=\{0,1\}$ and $S=\{0,2\}$ give equality for every $q\ge4$, since their sumset has four residues.

Irrational rotations

Fix irrational $\theta$ and positive $\alpha,\beta$ with $\alpha+\beta<1$. Put \[ A=\{n\ge1:\{n\theta\}\in(0,\alpha)\},\qquad B=\{n\ge1:\{n\theta\}\in(0,\beta)\}. \] Irrational rotation is uniformly distributed: for every nonzero integer $h$, the mean of $e^{2\pi i h n\theta}$ tends to zero by the geometric-series formula, and trigonometric approximation of interval indicators gives the interval frequency. Hence $d(A)=\alpha$, $d(B)=\beta$.

Every sum belongs to $C=\{n:\{n\theta\}\in(0,\alpha+\beta)\}$, so the upper density of $A+B$ is at most $\alpha+\beta$. For the reverse inequality fix $0<\delta<(\alpha+\beta)/2$. If $t=\{n\theta\}\in[\delta,\alpha+\beta-\delta]$, the interval \[ J_t=(\max(0,t-\beta),\min(\alpha,t)) \] has length at least $\min(\alpha,\beta,\delta)>0$. A finite prefix of the dense orbit $\{\{j\theta\}:j\ge1\}$ meets every interval of this fixed minimum length: take a sufficiently fine finite net from the orbit. Therefore one fixed $K$ works for every such $t$. For $n>K$, choose $1\le j\le K$ with $\{j\theta\}\in J_t$. Then $j\in A$, $n-j\in B$, since $t-\{j\theta\}\in(0,\beta)$ with no wrap around the circle.

It follows that the lower density of $A+B$ is at least $\alpha+\beta-2\delta$. Let $\delta\downarrow0$ to obtain \[ d(A+B)=\alpha+\beta. \] These $A$ cannot even be approximated arbitrarily well in density by periodic sets. On every residue class modulo $q$, irrationality of $q\theta$ gives frequency $\alpha$. Thus for any union $P$ of residue classes with density $\gamma$, \[ d(A\mathbin{\triangle}P)=\alpha+\gamma-2\alpha\gamma \ge\min(\alpha,1-\alpha)>0. \tag{1} \]

A random example supported on the even integers

Choose each positive even integer independently with probability $1/2$, forming $A=B$. With probability one, $d(A)=1/4$. For completeness, if $S_n$ counts selected numbers among the first $n$ even integers, Chebyshev's inequality along $n=k^2$ gives \[ \Pr(|S_{k^2}-k^2/2|>\varepsilon k^2)\le(4\varepsilon^2 k^2)^{-1}. \] The sum converges, so the union bound on tails implies that only finitely many such deviations occur. Apply this for rational $\varepsilon>0$, and interpolate using monotonicity between consecutive squares, to get $S_n/n\to1/2$.

For each $n$, the integer $2n$ has $\lfloor(n-1)/2\rfloor$ pairs of distinct positive even summands $\{2j,2(n-j)\}$. These pairs use disjoint selected variables. Therefore \[ \Pr(2n\notin A+A)\le(3/4)^{\lfloor(n-1)/2\rfloor}. \] Again the sum converges, so almost surely every sufficiently large even integer is in $A+A$. No odd integer is in it. Consequently $d(A+A)=1/2=2d(A)$ almost surely. This verifies that equality can coexist with arbitrary independent choices inside a residue class.

Remaining gap

These are rigorously established families, not an exhaustive list. Formula $1$ rules out an exclusively periodic characterization, and the random construction warns against imposing rigid internal structure on every residue class. The general necessary and sufficient conditions are not proved here.

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Erdős problem #335

1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT. Let $A,B\subseteq\mathbb{N}$ have (asymptotic) densities \[ d(A)=\lim_{N\to\infty}\frac{|A\cap[1,N]|}{N}=\alpha>0, \qquad d(B)=\lim_{N\to\infty}\frac{|B\cap[1,N]|}{N}=\beta>0. \] Define the sumset $A+B:=\{a+b: a\in A,\ b\in B\}$. The problem asks to characterize all pairs $(A,B)$ such that \[ d(A+B)=d(A)+d(B)=\alpha+\beta. \]

2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK. No external results are assumed beyond the problem statement.

3) ATTACK PLAN.

  • Note basic necessary constraints (e.g. $\alpha+\beta\le 1$).
  • Analyze the periodic case (unions of residue classes), where density reduces to finite group counting.
  • Use periodic examples as sanity checks and as a source of families satisfying the equality.

4) WORK.

Lemma 335.1 (periodic sets reduce to residue-class counting). Fix $m\ge 1$. Let $A,B\subseteq\mathbb{N}$ be unions of residue classes modulo $m$: \[ A=\{n\ge 1: n\bmod m\in A_0\},\qquad B=\{n\ge 1: n\bmod m\in B_0\} \] for some $A_0,B_0\subseteq\mathbb{Z}/m\mathbb{Z}$. Then the densities exist and \[ d(A)=\frac{|A_0|}{m},\qquad d(B)=\frac{|B_0|}{m},\qquad d(A+B)=\frac{|A_0+B_0|}{m}, \] where $A_0+B_0:=\{a+b\bmod m: a\in A_0,\ b\in B_0\}$.

Proof. Each residue class modulo $m$ has density $1/m$ in $\mathbb{N}$. Since $A$ is a disjoint union of $|A_0|$ residue classes, $d(A)=|A_0|/m$, and similarly for $B$.

If $n\in A+B$, then $n\equiv a+b\pmod m$ for some residues $a\in A_0$, $b\in B_0$, so $(A+B)\bmod m\subseteq A_0+B_0$. Conversely, if $r\in A_0+B_0$, choose residues $a\in A_0$, $b\in B_0$ with $r\equiv a+b\pmod m$; then every sufficiently large integer $n\equiv r\pmod m$ can be written as $n=(a+tm)+(b+t'm)$ with $t,t'\ge 0$ large enough, hence $n\in A+B$. Thus $A+B$ is also a union of residue classes with residue set $A_0+B_0$, and therefore $d(A+B)=|A_0+B_0|/m$. $\square$

Lemma 335.2 (an explicit infinite family with $d(A+B)=d(A)+d(B)$). Fix any integer $m\ge 4$, and define \[ A:=\{n\ge 1: n\bmod m\in\{0,1\}\},\qquad B:=\{n\ge 1: n\bmod m\in\{0,2\}\}. \] Then $d(A)=2/m$, $d(B)=2/m$, and $d(A+B)=4/m=d(A)+d(B)$.

Proof. By Lemma 335.1, $d(A)=|\{0,1\}|/m=2/m$ and $d(B)=2/m$. The residue sumset is \[ \{0,1\}+\{0,2\}=\{0+0,0+2,1+0,1+2\}=\{0,1,2,3\}\subseteq\mathbb{Z}/m\mathbb{Z}. \] For $m\ge 4$ these are four distinct residues, hence $|A_0+B_0|=4$ and Lemma 335.1 gives $d(A+B)=4/m=d(A)+d(B)$. $\square$

FAST REALITY CHECK (small periodic example). Take $m=5$. Then $d(A)=d(B)=2/5$ and $A+B$ occupies residues $0,1,2,3$ modulo $5$, hence $d(A+B)=4/5=d(A)+d(B)$.

5) VERIFICATION. Lemma 335.1 is a direct density computation for periodic sets. Lemma 335.2 is an explicit construction checked by residue arithmetic.

6) FINAL.

UNRESOLVED

(i) Strongest fully proved partial result obtained here. We proved a complete reduction for periodic (mod $m$) sets: $d(A+B)=d(A)+d(B)$ is equivalent to $|A_0+B_0|=|A_0|+|B_0|$ in $\mathbb{Z}/m\mathbb{Z}$ (Lemma 335.1), and we exhibited an explicit infinite family of nontrivial examples satisfying the equality (Lemma 335.2).

(ii) Exact first gap. For general positive-density sets $A,B$ (not assumed periodic or structured), we do not have a characterization of when $d(A+B)=d(A)+d(B)$ holds.

(iii) Top 3 next moves (concrete targets).

  1. Prove a structure theorem: show that if $d(A+B)=d(A)+d(B)<1$, then $A$ and $B$ must be "almost periodic" (e.g. close in density to unions of residue classes).
  2. Analyze the equality case in finite cyclic groups: classify pairs $(A_0,B_0)\subseteq\mathbb{Z}/m\mathbb{Z}$ with $|A_0+B_0|=|A_0|+|B_0|$, then lift to $\mathbb{N}$ via Lemma 335.1.
  3. Search computationally over small moduli $m$ for residue-class solutions and look for a pattern that could plausibly extend to a full classification.

(iv) Minimal counterexample structure. A counterexample to any proposed "periodic-only" characterization would be a pair of sets $A,B$ of positive density with $d(A+B)=d(A)+d(B)$ but whose characteristic functions are not approximable (in density) by periodic sets. Such a pair would have to avoid the usual heuristic that sumsets create substantial overlap and hence increase density beyond the sum.

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