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Erdős Problem #265

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Statement

Find (or bound) the maximal possible growth rate of a sequence of integers $(a_n)_{n\ge 1}$ with $a_n\to\infty$ such that both series \[ S_0:=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{a_n}, \qquad S_1:=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{a_n-1} \] converge and are rational numbers (with the implicit requirement $a_n\neq 1$ so that $a_n-1\neq 0$).

Restatement from Math-5539-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.

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Math-5539-A3 · No claim recorded · LLM-generated · gpt pro 5.4 ·

gpt pro 5.4 attempt on Math-5539

Erdős Problem #265 (Round 2)

1. ROUND-2 OBJECTIVE

I pursue (C) obstruction/correction. The phrase "maximal possible growth rate" in the original problem is not yet a theorem-level object. The right precise invariant is the best doubly-exponential exponent that can currently be proved. Round 1 only gave a nonquantitative lower bound "some $\beta>1$". In Round 2 I sharpen this to an explicit numerical bound and formulate the problem in a precise exponent language.

2. Round-1 FOUNDATION USED

I use the following Round 1 facts.

  1. Cantor's polynomial example $a_n={n\choose 2}$ shows that the phenomenon is nonempty.
  2. The folklore irrationality criterion for $\sum 1/a_n$ implies that growth faster than doubly exponential is impossible, so one has an upper barrier at exponent $2$.
  3. Round 1 recorded the Kovač--Tao existence theorem in the nonquantitative form: there exists some $\beta>1$ for which doubly exponential growth is achievable.

3. NEW INSIGHT / TOOL (ROUND-2)

The genuinely new point is that the Kovač--Tao proof is quantitative. In the two-shift case relevant to #265, it yields the concrete admissible range \[ 1<\beta<\sqrt{\frac65}. \] Even more strongly, it yields nonempty interior of the set of achievable pairs of sums, not just existence of one sequence.

4. ATTACK PLAN (ROUND-2)

I introduce the precise exponent invariant \[ \beta_*:=\sup\left\{\beta>1: \exists\ 1\le a_1<a_2<\cdots\ \mbox{with}\ a_n^{1/\beta^n}\to\infty,\ \sum\frac1{a_n}\in\mathbf Q,\ \sum\frac1{a_n-1}\in\mathbf Q\right\}. \] Round 1 only implied $1<\beta_*\le 2$.

The Round 2 goal is to prove the stronger lower bound \[ \beta_*\ge \sqrt{\frac65}. \] To do so I use the quantitative part of Kovač--Tao's higher-dimensional theorem with $d=2$.

5. WORK (ROUND-2)

Let \[ \mathcal S_2(\beta):= \left\{ \left(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{u_n},\ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{u_n+1}\right) :\ 1\le u_1<u_2<\cdots,\ u_n^{1/\beta^n}\to\infty \right\}. \]

The Kovač--Tao proof of Theorem 2.8 gives the following quantitative statement in dimension $d=2$: for every \[ 1<\beta<\left(\frac{2d+2}{2d+1}\right)^{1/d}=\sqrt{\frac65}, \] the set $\mathcal S_2(\beta)$ has nonempty interior.

Corollary 5.1. For every $\beta$ with $1<\beta<\sqrt{6/5}$, there exists a strictly increasing sequence of positive integers $(a_n)$ such that \[ a_n^{1/\beta^n}\to\infty, \qquad \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{a_n}\in\mathbf Q, \qquad \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{a_n-1}\in\mathbf Q. \]

Proof. Fix such a $\beta$. By the quantitative Kovač--Tao statement, $\mathcal S_2(\beta)$ contains a nonempty open set in the plane. Rational points are dense in the plane, so there exists a rational pair $(x,y)$ in this open set. Hence there is a strictly increasing sequence $(u_n)$ with \[ u_n^{1/\beta^n}\to\infty, \qquad \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{u_n}=x\in\mathbf Q, \qquad \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{u_n+1}=y\in\mathbf Q. \] Now set $a_n:=u_n+1$. Then $(a_n)$ is still strictly increasing, and \[ a_n^{1/\beta^n}\to\infty \] because $a_n\ge u_n$. Moreover, \[ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{a_n-1}=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{u_n}=x\in\mathbf Q, \qquad \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{a_n}=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{u_n+1}=y\in\mathbf Q. \] This proves the claim. $\square$

Corollary 5.2. The optimal exponent $\beta_*$ satisfies \[ \sqrt{\frac65}\le \beta_*\le 2. \]

Proof. The lower bound is Corollary 5.1. The upper bound is the Round 1 folklore barrier: if $a_n^{1/2^n}\to\infty$, then $\sum 1/a_n$ is irrational, so such a sequence cannot satisfy the hypotheses of #265. $\square$

Thus Round 2 replaces the vague statement "some doubly exponential growth is possible" by a precise numerical interval for the currently accessible exponent.

6. ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION

  1. Shift check. The Kovač--Tao theorem is formulated for shifts $0$ and $+1$, whereas the Erdős problem uses $0$ and $-1$. The substitution $a_n=u_n+1$ exactly converts one formulation into the other.
  2. Growth check. Passing from $u_n$ to $a_n=u_n+1$ does not hurt the lower growth bound, since $a_n\ge u_n$.
  3. Interior versus existence. Nonempty interior is stronger than existence. Using density of rational points inside that open set is fully rigorous.
  4. Upper bound consistency. The upper barrier $2$ is unchanged, so the new lower bound $\sqrt{6/5}$ creates a genuine quantitative gap rather than contradicting Round 1.

7. FINAL

UNRESOLVED (BUT STRICTLY ADVANCED)

Round 2 sharpens the current quantitative picture to \[ \sqrt{\frac65}\le \beta_*\le 2, \] where $\beta_*$ is the optimal doubly-exponential exponent in problem #265. In particular, the lower bound is no longer merely existential: every \[ 1<\beta<\sqrt{\frac65}=1.095445\ldots \] is now rigorously admissible.

8. COMPLETION ESTIMATE

COMPLETION: 68%

9. REFERENCES

  1. V. Kovač and T. Tao, On several irrationality problems for Ahmes series, arXiv:2406.17593.

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Math-5539-A1 · No claim recorded · LLM-generated · gpt 6 astra ultra ·

GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-5539

OBJECTIVE AND SOURCE REVIEW

Erdős #265; independent attempt, 2026-09-23. How rapidly can increasing integers $a_n\ge2$ grow while both $\sum1/a_n$ and $\sum1/(a_n-1)$ are rational? I read the complete 265.tex, including its proposed exponent invariant and the imported quantitative Kovač--Tao lower range. Here I derive an explicit necessary denominator-growth constraint. I do not claim a better optimal exponent.

WORK: TWO DENOMINATOR CONSTRAINTS

Suppose $a_{n+1}\ge2a_n$ eventually and the two sums are $p/q$ and $r/s$, respectively, with positive integer denominators $q,s$. Put \[ Q_n=\prod_{i\le n}a_i,\qquad R_n=\prod_{i\le n}(a_i-1). \] For all sufficiently large $n$, positivity and rationality of the tails give \[ \frac1{qQ_n}\le\sum_{i>n}\frac1{a_i}\le\frac2{a_{n+1}}, \qquad a_{n+1}\le2qQ_n. \] Also $a_i-1\ge a_i/2$, so \[ \frac1{sR_n}\le\sum_{i>n}\frac1{a_i-1}\le\frac4{a_{n+1}}, \qquad a_{n+1}\le4sR_n. \] Thus both constraints must hold simultaneously. In particular no such sequence can satisfy $a_{n+1}\ge a_n^{2+\delta}$ eventually for fixed $\delta>0$. Indeed, writing $b_n=\log a_n$ and summing the backward geometric bound gives \[ \log Q_n\le O(1)+\frac{2+\delta}{1+\delta}b_n. \] But $\log a_{n+1}\ge(2+\delta)b_n$, contradicting $a_{n+1}\le2qQ_n$ as $n\to\infty$.

ADVERSARIAL VERIFICATION AND REMAINING GAP

All denominators are positive because $a_n\ge2$; allowing $a_1=1$ would make the shifted sum undefined. The doubling hypothesis is used for the tail estimate and is not automatic from an arbitrary average-growth specification. The pointwise power condition proved impossible is stronger than the global exponent condition in the source, so this argument is not a replacement proof of every claimed global barrier. It offers necessary inequalities for any proposed construction, but no construction near the optimal rate.

SOURCES CHECKED

Complete local source: gpt_pro_5.4/265.tex. Primary paper checked: Kovač--Tao, https://arxiv.org/html/2406.17593v3. Its simultaneous-rationality setting supplies context; the displayed obstruction is elementary and no new record is claimed.

FINAL

UNRESOLVED. Explicit tail constraints are verified, while the maximal admissible growth remains undetermined.

COMPLETION ESTIMATE

Conservative subjective progress toward the optimal growth problem. COMPLETION: 10%

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Math-5539-A2 · No claim recorded · LLM-generated · gpt pro 5.2 ·

gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-5539

Erdős Problem #265

1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT

Find (or bound) the maximal possible growth rate of a sequence of integers $(a_n)_{n\ge 1}$ with $a_n\to\infty$ such that both series \[ S_0:=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{a_n}, \qquad S_1:=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{a_n-1} \] converge and are rational numbers (with the implicit requirement $a_n\neq 1$ so that $a_n-1\neq 0$).

2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK (only if browsing available)

  • (Cantor) The choice $a_n=\binom{n}{2}$ (for $n\ge 3$) gives both sums rational by telescoping.
  • (Erdős folklore/criterion) A classical irrationality criterion states that if $a_n$ grows faster than doubly exponential in the sense $a_n^{1/2^n}\to\infty$, then $\sum 1/a_n$ is irrational; hence any sequence with $S_0\in\mathbb{Q}$ must satisfy $\limsup a_n^{1/2^n}<\infty$.
  • (Kovač--Tao) There exist sequences with doubly exponential growth (i.e. $a_n^{1/\beta^n}\to\infty$ for some $\beta>1$) for which $\sum 1/(a_n+j)\in\mathbb{Q}$ simultaneously for $j=0,1,\dots,d-1$. In particular, the condition $a_n^{1/n}\to\infty$ is achievable, but it remains open whether one can achieve $\limsup a_n^{1/2^n}>1$ while keeping both sums rational.

3) ATTACK PLAN

  1. Verify Cantor's example explicitly by writing both series in partial fractions and telescoping.
  2. Record the known upper bound (no faster than doubly exponential) via the classical irrationality criterion for $\sum 1/a_n$.
  3. Record the known lower bound (doubly exponential growth is achievable) via the Kovač--Tao existence theorem.
  4. Identify the remaining gap: determining the optimal doubly-exponential exponent (e.g. whether $\limsup a_n^{1/2^n}>1$ is possible).

4) WORK (with full details)

4.1. Cantor's polynomial-growth example

Let \[ a_n:=\binom{n}{2}=\frac{n(n-1)}{2},\qquad n\ge 3. \] Then $a_n\to\infty$ and $a_n-1\neq 0$ for $n\ge 3$.

Proposition (First sum is rational): \[\sum_{n=3}^{\infty}\frac{1}{\binom{n}{2}}\in\mathbb{Q}. \]
Proof: For $n\ge 3$, \[ \frac{1}{\binom{n}{2}}=\frac{2}{n(n-1)}=2\left(\frac{1}{n-1}-\frac{1}{n}\right). \] Hence the partial sums telescope: \[ \sum_{n=3}^{N}\frac{1}{\binom{n}{2}} =2\sum_{n=3}^{N}\left(\frac{1}{n-1}-\frac{1}{n}\right) =2\left(\frac{1}{2}-\frac{1}{N}\right) =1-\frac{2}{N}. \] Letting $N\to\infty$ gives $\sum_{n=3}^{\infty}\frac{1}{\binom{n}{2}}=1$. ∎
Proposition (Second sum is rational): \[\sum_{n=3}^{\infty}\frac{1}{\binom{n}{2}-1}\in\mathbb{Q}. \]
Proof: For $n\ge 3$, \[ \binom{n}{2}-1=\frac{n(n-1)-2}{2}=\frac{(n-2)(n+1)}{2}, \] so \[ \frac{1}{\binom{n}{2}-1}=\frac{2}{(n-2)(n+1)}. \] We decompose into partial fractions: \[ \frac{2}{(n-2)(n+1)}=\frac{2}{3}\left(\frac{1}{n-2}-\frac{1}{n+1}\right) \qquad\text{(since }\frac{1}{n-2}-\frac{1}{n+1}=\frac{3}{(n-2)(n+1)}\text{).} \] Therefore \[ \sum_{n=3}^{N}\frac{1}{\binom{n}{2}-1} =\frac{2}{3}\sum_{n=3}^{N}\left(\frac{1}{n-2}-\frac{1}{n+1}\right). \] The sum telescopes, leaving only the first three positive terms: \[ \sum_{n=3}^{N}\left(\frac{1}{n-2}-\frac{1}{n+1}\right) =\left(1+\frac12+\frac13\right)-\left(\frac{1}{N-1}+\frac{1}{N}+\frac{1}{N+1}\right). \] Letting $N\to\infty$ yields \[ \sum_{n=3}^{\infty}\frac{1}{\binom{n}{2}-1} =\frac{2}{3}\left(1+\frac12+\frac13\right) =\frac{2}{3}\cdot\frac{11}{6} =\frac{11}{9}. \] ∎

Thus polynomial growth is possible.

4.2. Known bounds on how fast $a_n$ can grow

Proposition (No faster than doubly exponential (known criterion)): Assume $(a_n)$ is strictly increasing and $\sum_{n\ge 1} 1/a_n\in\mathbb{Q}$. Then it cannot happen that $a_n^{1/2^n}\to\infty$.
Proof: A known irrationality criterion (attributed in the literature to Erdős--Straus and related works) states:
If $(a_n)$ is a strictly increasing sequence of positive integers for which $\lim_{n\to\infty} a_n^{1/2^n}=\infty$, then $\sum_{n\ge 1} 1/a_n$ is irrational.
Applying this contrapositive to the hypothesis $\sum 1/a_n\in\mathbb{Q}$ proves the claim. ∎

So $a_n$ cannot grow faster than doubly exponential.

Proposition (Doubly exponential growth is achievable (known construction)): There exists $\beta>1$ and a strictly increasing integer sequence $(a_n)$ such that \[ \lim_{n\to\infty} a_n^{1/\beta^n}=\infty, \qquad \sum_{n\ge 1}\frac{1}{a_n}\in\mathbb{Q}, \qquad \sum_{n\ge 1}\frac{1}{a_n-1}\in\mathbb{Q}. \]
Proof: This follows from the higher-dimensional existence theorem of Kovač--Tao on simultaneous rationality of the sums $\sum 1/(a_n+j)$ for consecutive shifts $j=0,1,\dots,d-1$ (take $d=2$ and then shift indices so that $a_n-1$ corresponds to $a_n+j$). ∎

5) VERIFICATION / SANITY CHECK

  • The Cantor example starts at $n=3$ to avoid the term $\binom{2}{2}-1=0$.
  • Both series telescope to explicit rationals $1$ and $11/9$.
  • The "no faster than doubly exponential" bound is consistent with the existence of shifted Sylvester-type examples having $a_n\asymp C^{2^n}$ and rational reciprocal sums.

6) FINAL

UNRESOLVED.

  • (i) What is proved here: explicit polynomial-growth examples exist (Cantor's $a_n=\binom{n}{2}$ with rational sums $1$ and $11/9$). Also, by known criteria, growth faster than doubly exponential is impossible if $\sum 1/a_n$ is rational.
  • (ii) What remains open: the optimal doubly exponential exponent. In particular, it is unknown whether one can arrange both sums rational with $\limsup a_n^{1/2^n}>1$.
  • (iii) Most plausible next step: refine the existing doubly-exponential constructions to push the exponent toward $2$, or prove an obstruction showing $a_n^{1/2^n}\to 1$ must hold.
  • (iv) Completion estimate: closing the gap likely requires either a new rigidity principle for simultaneous Ahmes sums, or a substantially sharper construction; the remaining step is not a routine optimization of known arguments.

7) COMPLETION ESTIMATE

To reach a full resolution one needs either:

  1. an explicit construction achieving $\limsup a_n^{1/2^n}>1$ with both sums rational, or
  2. a proof that any such sequence must satisfy $a_n^{1/2^n}\to 1$ (or at least $\limsup\le 1$).

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