Erdős Problem #169
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Fix an integer $k\ge 3$.
A set $A\subseteq\mathbb N:=\{1,2,3,\dots\}$ is $k$-AP-free if it contains no arithmetic progression of length $k$, i.e. there do not exist integers $a\ge 1$ and $d\ge 1$ such that \[ \{a,a+d,a+2d,\dots,a+(k-1)d\}\subseteq A. \]
Define \[ f(k):=\sup\left\{\sum_{n\in A}\frac{1}{n}: A\subseteq\mathbb N\text{ is $k$-AP-free}\right\}\in[0,\infty]. \]
Let $W(k)$ denote the (two-color) van der Waerden number: the smallest $N$ such that every 2-coloring of $\{1,2,\dots,N\}$ contains a monochromatic $k$-term arithmetic progression.
Questions:
1. Give good lower/upper estimates for $f(k)$. 2. Decide whether \[ \lim_{k\to\infty} \frac{f(k)}{\log W(k)} = \infty. \]
Edge cases: for each fixed $k$, finite sets are allowed, so $f(k)\ge \sum_{n=1}^{k-1} \frac1n$ always.
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Restatement from Math-5473-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-5473
Erdős Problem 169: reciprocal sums of progression-free sets
Statement and outcome
For $k\ge3$, let $f(k)$ be the supremum of $\sum_{n\in A}1/n$ over subsets of the positive integers with no nonconstant $k$-term arithmetic progression. Let $W(k)$ be the two-colour van der Waerden number. The problem asks for estimates and whether $f(k)/\log W(k)\to\infty$.We prove the basic Ramsey lower bound, construct an explicit infinite admissible set, and establish a uniform vanishing reciprocal tail for $k=3$ using one explicitly external quantitative Roth theorem. The comparison as $k\to\infty$ remains unresolved in this attempt.
Finite truncations and the Ramsey comparison
Every nonnegative reciprocal sum is the supremum of its finite truncations. Consequently $f(k)=\sup_N F_k(N)$, where $F_k(N)$ maximizes the weighted sum on admissible subsets of $[1,N]$. Also $f(k)\le f(k+1)$, since a $(k+1)$-term progression contains a $k$-term one.A colouring of $[1,W(k)-1]$ with neither colour containing a $k$-term progression partitions $H_{W(k)-1}$ into two admissible sums. Thus \[ f(k)\ge \frac12H_{W(k)-1}\ge\frac12\log W(k). \tag{1} \] The last step follows by comparing each $1/j$ with $\int_j^{j+1}dt/t$. Independently, $f(k)\ge H_{k-1}$. These elementary arguments also appeared in the earlier local attempt and have been checked.
A digit construction with a rigorous tail
Let $B$ consist of the nonnegative integers whose ternary digits all lie in $\{0,1\}$, and put $A=1+B$. Suppose $x+z=2y$ with $x,y,z\in B$. Modulo three, the allowed digits force the last digits of all three numbers to agree: unequal endpoint digits give residue one, which $2y$ cannot have. Subtract the common digit and divide by three. Repetition through all digits gives $x=y=z$. Hence $B$, and its translate $A$, are three-term-free.For $m\ge1$, let $B_m$ restrict to the first $m$ ternary places. Then \[ \sum_{b\in B_m}\frac1{b+1} \le \sum_{a\in A}\frac1a \le \sum_{b\in B_m}\frac1{b+1} +3(2/3)^m. \tag{2} \] Indeed, numbers of $B$ whose highest nonzero place is $j\ge m$ number $2^j$ and are at least $3^j$. Summing their reciprocal bounds gives the geometric tail. This is an explicit, effectively evaluated lower construction for every $f(k)$, $k\ge3$, not a claim to the known numerical records.
Uniform reciprocal tails when $k=3$
We now use the following external input, not proved here: Bloom--Sisask, Theorem 1.1, gives absolute $c,C>0$ such that every three-term-free subset of an interval of length $X\ge3$ has size at most $CX/(\log X)^{1+c}$. Translation preserves the hypothesis.For any three-term-free $A$ and integer $M\ge3$, partition its elements at least $M$ into the intervals $[2^jM,2^{j+1}M)$, $j\ge0$. Each contributes at most $C/(\log M+j\log2)^{1+c}$ to the reciprocal sum. Comparing this decreasing series with an integral gives \[ \sup_{A\text{ three-term-free}}\ \sum_{\substack{a\in A\\a\ge M}}\frac1a \le C\left((\log M)^{-1-c} +\frac{(\log M)^{-c}}{c\log2}\right). \tag{3} \] In particular $f(3)<\infty$, and the sufficiently-large-minimum question recorded on the problem page has an affirmative answer for $k=3$. Moreover $0\le f(3)-F_3(M-1)$ is bounded by the right side of $3$. This uniform statement supplies a genuine truncation error; convergence separately for each admissible set would not by itself give it.
Assessment and attribution
Source: https://www.erdosproblems.com/169. External theorem: T. F. Bloom and O. Sisask, Breaking the logarithmic barrier in Roth's theorem on arithmetic progressions, https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.03528. The oldgpt_pro_5.2/169.tex correctly derived $1$, but treated even finiteness for $k=3$ as unavailable; $3$ records precisely what follows from the primary theorem. Neither this input nor the digit construction addresses general $k$ or improves the factor $1/2$ in $1$ uniformly. No novelty claim is made. COMPLETION ESTIMATE
COMPLETION: 35%gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-5473
PROBLEM
Let $k\geq 3$ and $f(k)$ be the supremum of $\sum_{n\in A}\frac{1}{n}$ as $A$ ranges over all sets of positive integers which do not contain a $k$-term arithmetic progression. Estimate $f(k)$. Is \[\lim_{k\to \infty}\frac{f(k)}{\log W(k)}=\infty\] where $W(k)$ is the van der Waerden number?
OUTPUT
1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT
Fix an integer $k\ge 3$.
A set $A\subseteq\mathbb N:=\{1,2,3,\dots\}$ is $k$-AP-free if it contains no arithmetic progression of length $k$, i.e. there do not exist integers $a\ge 1$ and $d\ge 1$ such that \[ \{a,a+d,a+2d,\dots,a+(k-1)d\}\subseteq A. \]
Define \[ f(k):=\sup\left\{\sum_{n\in A}\frac{1}{n}: A\subseteq\mathbb N\text{ is $k$-AP-free}\right\}\in[0,\infty]. \]
Let $W(k)$ denote the (two-color) van der Waerden number: the smallest $N$ such that every 2-coloring of $\{1,2,\dots,N\}$ contains a monochromatic $k$-term arithmetic progression.
Questions:
1. Give good lower/upper estimates for $f(k)$. 2. Decide whether \[ \lim_{k\to\infty} \frac{f(k)}{\log W(k)} = \infty. \]
Edge cases: for each fixed $k$, finite sets are allowed, so $f(k)\ge \sum_{n=1}^{k-1} \frac1n$ always.
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2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
I will not use or claim any external results beyond what is explicitly written in the problem text.
The problem text reports several lower bounds (Berlekamp; Gerver), record values for $f(3),f(4)$, and a statement that improving $f(k)/\log W(k)\ge 1/2$ to any constant $>1/2$ is open.
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3) ATTACK PLAN
Proof-track (partial):
1. Prove unconditional, elementary lower bounds on $f(k)$ (using explicit finite $k$-AP-free sets). 2. Prove the “trivial” inequality $f(k)\ge \tfrac12\log W(k)$ from the definition of $W(k)$. 3. Do a small-$N$ computational reality check for the finite truncation problem \[ F_k(N):=\max\left\{\sum_{n\in A}\frac1n: A\subseteq\{1,\dots,N\}\text{ is $k$-AP-free}\right\}, \] noting $F_k(N)\le f(k)$.
Disproof-track for the limit question is out of reach here (it would require upper bounds or constructions beyond elementary arguments).
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4) WORK
Phase 1: FAST REALITY CHECK (finite truncations)
For small $N$ I computed exact values of $F_k(N)$ by brute force optimization.
For $k=3$ (no 3-term APs): \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccccc} N&1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8&9&10\\\hline F_3(N)&1&1.5&1.5&1.75&1.95&1.95&1.95&1.95&1.986111\dots&2.05 \end{array} \] \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccccc} N&11&12&13&14&15&16&17&18&19&20\\\hline F_3(N)&2.140909\dots&2.140909\dots&2.217832\dots&2.289260\dots&2.289260\dots&2.289260\dots&2.289260\dots&2.289260\dots&2.289260\dots&2.289260\dots \end{array} \]
For $k=4$ (no 4-term APs), computed for $1\le N\le 16$: \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccc} N&1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8\\\hline F_4(N)&1&1.5&1.833333\dots&1.833333\dots&2.033333\dots&2.2&2.2&2.325 \end{array} \] \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccc} N&9&10&11&12&13&14&15&16\\\hline F_4(N)&2.436111\dots&2.536111\dots&2.536111\dots&2.536111\dots&2.536111\dots&2.556684\dots&2.602777\dots&2.665277\dots \end{array} \]
These are lower bounds for $f(3),f(4)$ because finite sets are allowed in the supremum definition.
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Lemma 4.1 (monotonicity in $k$)
For $k\ge 3$, \[ f(k)\le f(k+1). \]
Proof. If a set $A\subseteq\mathbb N$ contains a $(k+1)$-term arithmetic progression, then it certainly contains a $k$-term arithmetic progression (take the first $k$ terms). Contrapositively, if $A$ is $k$-AP-free, then it is also $(k+1)$-AP-free.
Therefore the class of $k$-AP-free sets is contained in the class of $(k+1)$-AP-free sets. Taking suprema of the same functional $\sum_{n\in A}1/n$ over a larger class cannot decrease the value, so $f(k)\le f(k+1)$. $\square$
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Lemma 4.2 (finite-set lower bound)
For every $k\ge 3$, \[ f(k)\ge \sum_{n=1}^{k-1}\frac{1}{n}. \]
Proof. The set $A:=\{1,2,\dots,k-1\}$ has size $k-1$, hence it cannot contain any $k$-term arithmetic progression (a $k$-term AP requires $k$ distinct elements). Thus $A$ is $k$-AP-free, and so \[ f(k)\ge \sum_{n\in A}\frac1n=\sum_{n=1}^{k-1}\frac1n. \] $\square$
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Lemma 4.3 (the “trivial” $1/2$ bound from $W(k)$)
For every $k\ge 3$, \[ f(k)\ge \frac12\log W(k), \] and hence \[ \frac{f(k)}{\log W(k)}\ge \frac12. \]
Proof. By definition of $W(k)$, there exists a 2-coloring of $\{1,2,\dots,W(k)-1\}$ with no monochromatic $k$-term arithmetic progression. Let $R$ and $B$ be the red and blue color classes. Then both $R$ and $B$ are $k$-AP-free sets.
Moreover, \[ \sum_{n\in R}\frac1n+\sum_{n\in B}\frac1n=\sum_{n=1}^{W(k)-1}\frac1n=:H_{W(k)-1}. \] Therefore at least one of the two sums is at least half: \[ \max\left\{\sum_{n\in R}\frac1n,\ \sum_{n\in B}\frac1n\right\}\ge \frac12 H_{W(k)-1}. \] Since $R$ and $B$ are admissible in the definition of $f(k)$, we obtain \[ f(k)\ge \frac12 H_{W(k)-1}. \]
It remains to lower bound $H_{W(k)-1}$. For every integer $m\ge 1$, we have the integral comparison \[ \frac1i \ge \int_{i}^{i+1}\frac{dx}{x} \quad\text{for each }i=1,2,\dots,m. \] Summing gives \[ H_m=\sum_{i=1}^m\frac1i \ge \int_{1}^{m+1}\frac{dx}{x}=\log(m+1). \] Taking $m=W(k)-1$ yields $H_{W(k)-1}\ge \log W(k)$ and hence \[ f(k)\ge \frac12\log W(k). \] $\square$
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5) VERIFICATION
* Lemma 4.2 is valid because a $k$-term AP requires $k$ distinct terms, so any set of size $<k$ is automatically $k$-AP-free. * Lemma 4.3 uses only the definition of $W(k)$ and the harmonic-number lower bound $H_m\ge\log(m+1)$, proved by a standard integral estimate. * The computed truncation values $F_3(N),F_4(N)$ are consistent with Lemma 4.2: e.g. for $k=3$, Lemma 4.2 gives $f(3)\ge 1+1/2=1.5$, and indeed $F_3(2)=1.5$.
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6) FINAL
UNRESOLVED
(i) Strongest fully proved partial result obtained here.
We proved elementary lower bounds \[ f(k)\ge \sum_{n=1}^{k-1}\frac1n\qquad\text{and}\qquad f(k)\ge \frac12\log W(k). \] We also computed exact finite truncation maxima $F_3(N)$ for $N\le 20$ and $F_4(N)$ for $N\le 16$.
(ii) Exact first gap.
Any nontrivial upper bound on $f(k)$ (even finiteness of $f(3)$) is beyond what I can prove here, and I cannot improve the bound $f(k)/\log W(k)\ge 1/2$ to any constant $>1/2$.
(iii) Top 3 next moves (concrete targets).
1. Prove or disprove finiteness of $f(3)$ by constructing a 3-AP-free set with divergent harmonic series or proving such divergence is impossible. 2. Attempt to build structured $k$-AP-free “digit-restricted” sets (Kempner-type) with provably large harmonic sums and compare to known lower bounds. 3. Seek a mechanism linking large harmonic sum to large van der Waerden numbers to attack whether $f(k)/\log W(k)\to\infty$.
(iv) What a minimal counterexample would likely look like.
If $\lim_{k\to\infty} f(k)/\log W(k)=\infty$ is false, then there is a constant $C$ and infinitely many $k$ with $f(k)\le C\log W(k)$. Any such counterexample would require an upper-bounding principle that converts “no $k$-AP” into a strong restriction on harmonic sum, uniformly over all $k$.