Erdős Problem #155
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Let $F(N)$ be the maximum size of a Sidon set $A\subseteq\{1,2,\dots,N\}$. The conjecture is:
For each fixed integer $k\ge 1$ there exists $N_0(k)$ such that for all $N\ge N_0(k)$, \[ F(N+k)\le F(N)+1. \]
Restatement from Math-696-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-696
Erdős Problem 155: a checked attempt
GPT_6_Astra_Ultra
25 September 2026
Statement and scope
Let $F(N)$ be the largest size of a Sidon subset of $\{1,\ldots,N\}$. Does every fixed $k\ge1$ satisfy $F(N+k)\le F(N)+1$ for all sufficiently large $N$? Source: https://www.erdosproblems.com/155. We prove that even $F(N+k)=F(N)$ holds for a density-one set of $N$, and reformulate the eventual assertion using optimal Sidon diameters. The eventual assertion remains unresolved.Most intervals have no jump
Heredity and deleting the last element give \[ 0\le F(N+1)-F(N)\le1. \] Distinct positive differences give $\binom{F(N)}2\le N-1$, hence $F(N)=O(\sqrt N)$. Writing the $k$-step increment as a sum of one-step increments and interchanging the finite sums, \[ \sum_{N=1}^X(F(N+k)-F(N)) \le k\sum_{j=1}^{X+k-1}(F(j+1)-F(j)) \le kF(X+k). \] Every positive $k$-step increment contributes at least one, so the number of $N\le X$ with $F(N+k)\ne F(N)$ is $O_k(\sqrt X)$. In particular the proposed inequality fails on at most $\tfrac{k}{2}F(X+k)=O_k(\sqrt X)$ such $N$. This quantitative exceptional-set bound does not show that there are finitely many exceptions.An exact equivalent formulation
Let $L_m$ be the smallest diameter of an integer Sidon set of size $m$. It exists, since sufficiently separated powers give Sidon sets and the possible diameters are nonnegative integers. Translate a minimizing set to start at zero. Then \[ F(N)=\max\{m:L_m\le N-1\}. \] Also $L_{m+1}\ge L_m+1$: deleting the largest point reduces diameter by at least one and leaves an $m$-element Sidon set. We claim that the requested statement for every fixed $k$ is equivalent to \[ L_{m+1}-L_m\longrightarrow\infty.\tag{1} \] If these gaps fail to diverge, some integer $B$ bounds infinitely many of them. Put $k=B+1$ and $N=L_m$. Then $F(N)=m-1$, while $L_{m+1}\le L_m+B=N+k-1$, so $F(N+k)\ge m+1$. This supplies infinitely many violations. Conversely, if $F(N+k)\ge F(N)+2$ and $m=F(N)+1$, then \[ N\le L_m<L_{m+1}\le N+k-1, \] so $L_{m+1}-L_m\le k-1$. As $N\to\infty$, the relevant $m$ also tends to infinity because finite Sidon sets of arbitrary size exist. Thus $1$ excludes all sufficiently late violations.Why some attractive shortcuts are insufficient
It is not necessary that every maximum set in $[1,N+k]$ have at most one point in its final $k$ positions: the extremal-size inequality could be witnessed by a different Sidon set in $[1,N]$. That structural assertion is therefore stronger than the problem and is not an equivalent reformulation. Nor would an asymptotic $L_m\sim m^2$ alone imply $1$. The abstract strictly increasing sequence \[ u_{2j}=4j^2,\qquad u_{2j+1}=4j^2+1 \] has $u_m\sim m^2$ but infinitely many consecutive gaps equal to one. This is a numerical illustration of a logical limitation, not a sequence of optimal Sidon diameters or a counterexample.Assessment and provenance
The old GPT-Pro-5.2 draft's deletion and difference counts are retained with proofs, while its purported exact tables and the stronger tail condition are not used. The new deductions here isolate the distinction between a density-one conclusion and eventual stability. Proving $1$, or producing infinitely many bounded optimal-diameter gaps, is the remaining task.Completion rate estimate: 20%.
gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-696
Erdos problem #155
1) FORMAL RESTATEMENT
Let $F(N)$ be the maximum size of a Sidon set $A\subseteq\{1,2,\dots,N\}$. The conjecture is:For each fixed integer $k\ge 1$ there exists $N_0(k)$ such that for all $N\ge N_0(k)$, \[ F(N+k)\le F(N)+1. \]
2) QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK
The problem file gives no named theorems here beyond the conjecture itself.3) ATTACK PLAN
Two easy baselines:- Always $F(N+1)\le F(N)+1$ by removing the element $N+1$ if used.
- Difference-counting gives $F(N)=O(\sqrt N)$.
4) WORK
Lemma 155.1 (one-step Lipschitz).
For all $N\ge 1$, \[ F(N+1)\le F(N)+1. \]Proof. Let $A\subseteq\{1,\dots,N+1\}$ be a Sidon set of maximum size $|A|=F(N+1)$. If $N+1\notin A$ then $A\subseteq\{1,\dots,N\}$ so $|A|\le F(N)$. If $N+1\in A$, then $A\setminus\{N+1\}$ is Sidon in $\{1,\dots,N\}$ so $|A|-1\le F(N)$, i.e. $|A|\le F(N)+1$. In both cases $F(N+1)=|A|\le F(N)+1$. $\square$
Lemma 155.2 (difference-counting upper bound).
For all $N\ge 1$, \[ F(N)\le \frac{1+\sqrt{1+8(N-1)}}{2}. \] In particular, $F(N)=O(\sqrt N)$.Proof. Let $A=\{a_1<\cdots<a_m\}\subseteq\{1,\dots,N\}$ be Sidon. As in Lemma 153.3, the positive differences $a_j-a_i$ for $i<j$ are all distinct and lie in $\{1,\dots,N-1\}$. Hence $\binom{m}{2}\le N-1$, i.e. $m(m-1)\le 2(N-1)$. Solving the quadratic inequality for $m$ gives the stated bound. $\square$
FAST REALITY CHECK (computed small cases).
By brute-force backtracking, I computed $F(N)$ exactly for $N\le 40$: \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccccc} N & 1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8&9&10 \\ \hline F(N) & 1&2&2&3&3&3&4&4&4&4 \end{array} \] \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccccc} N & 11&12&13&14&15&16&17&18&19&20 \\ \hline F(N) & 5&5&5&5&5&6&6&6&6&6 \end{array} \] \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccccc} N & 21&22&23&24&25&26&27&28&29&30 \\ \hline F(N) & 6&6&7&7&7&7&7&7&7&7 \end{array} \] \[ \begin{array}{c|cccccccccc} N & 31&32&33&34&35&36&37&38&39&40 \\ \hline F(N) & 8&8&8&8&8&8&8&8&8&8 \end{array} \] For this range, the conjectured inequality $F(N+k)\le F(N)+1$ holds for $k=2,3,4,5$ for all $N\ge 4$ (violations only occur for very small $N$). An example of a maximum Sidon set for $N=40$ is \[ A=\{1,2,5,12,21,27,35,37\}\qquad(|A|=8). \]5) VERIFICATION
- Lemma 155.1: removing $N+1$ cannot create a repeated sum, so Sidon-ness is preserved.
- Lemma 155.2: the "distinct differences" argument is identical to Lemma 153.3 and uses only the Sidon property.
- Computation: verified by exact search (backtracking) over subsets of $\{1,\dots,N\}$.
6) FINAL
UNRESOLVED- (i) Strongest fully proved partial result obtained here. For every $N$ we have the one-step inequality $F(N+1)\le F(N)+1$ (Lemma 155.1) and the general upper bound $F(N)\le (1+\sqrt{1+8(N-1)})/2$ (Lemma 155.2).
- (ii) Exact first gap. Fix $k\ge 2$. Prove that for all sufficiently large $N$, any Sidon set in $\{1,\dots,N+k\}$ of maximum size contains at most one element from the last $k$ positions $\{N+1,\dots,N+k\}$. Equivalently, show $F(N+k)-F(N)\le 1$ for all large $N$.
- (iii) Top 3 next moves (concrete targets).
- Structural lemma: show a maximum Sidon set $A\subseteq[1,N]$ must have a "stable tail" (e.g. cannot have two very large elements too close to $N$ without forcing sum collisions).
- Develop a transfer argument: from a maximum Sidon set in $[1,N+k]$, delete one element among $\{N+1,\dots,N+k\}$ and "slide" the remainder into $[1,N]$ without losing size.
- Extend computations to larger $N$ for fixed small $k$ (e.g. $k=2,3$) to see whether any late violations occur.
- (iv) Minimal counterexample structure (if the conjecture is false). For some fixed $k$, there would exist infinitely many $N$ and Sidon sets $A\subseteq[1,N+k]$ of size $F(N)+2$ such that $A$ contains at least two elements from $\{N+1,\dots,N+k\}$. Such a family would have to exploit a special arrangement of sums involving the last $k$ integers that does not force sum collisions.