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Erdős Problem #1182

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Statement

Let $R(H,G)$ denote the two-colour Ramsey number. For each $n$, define $f(n)$ as the greatest edge count of a connected $n$-vertex graph $G$ satisfying $R(K_3,G)=2n-1$. Define $F(n)$ as the greatest threshold such that every connected $n$-vertex graph with at most $F(n)$ edges satisfies this equality. Determine the asymptotic sizes of $f(n)$ and $F(n)$. The original questions include whether $F(n)/n\to\infty$.

Restatement from Math-6236-A1 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.

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GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-6236

Erdős Problem 1182 --- GPT 6 Astra Ultra partial attempt

FORMAL RESTATEMENT

Let $R(H,G)$ denote the two-colour Ramsey number. For each $n$, define $f(n)$ as the greatest edge count of a connected $n$-vertex graph $G$ satisfying $R(K_3,G)=2n-1$. Define $F(n)$ as the greatest threshold such that every connected $n$-vertex graph with at most $F(n)$ edges satisfies this equality. Determine the asymptotic sizes of $f(n)$ and $F(n)$. The original questions include whether $F(n)/n\to\infty$.

CONTEXT AND SCOPE

This replaces the earlier statement-only record with an elementary mathematical attempt. The arguments below establish only their stated partial results; no novelty or full solution is claimed.

The official remarks already answer the final subquestion negatively via Brandt's bound F(n)<=84n; the estimation problem remains open. Definitions are intended in the nontrivial large-n regime.

ATTACK PLAN AND WORK

Every connected $n$-vertex graph has Ramsey number at least $2n-1$ against a triangle. On $2n-2$ vertices, make the red graph complete bipartite with two parts of size $n-1$. It has no red triangle, while the blue graph consists of two disjoint cliques, neither large enough to contain a connected $n$-vertex graph.

For every tree $T$ on $n$ vertices the lower bound is attained. Consider any coloring on $2n-1$ vertices with no red triangle. If a vertex has at least $n$ red neighbors, those neighbors form a blue clique, which contains $T$. Otherwise every vertex has red degree at most $n-1$, hence blue degree at least $n-1$. A graph of minimum degree at least $n-1$ contains every $n$-vertex tree: root the tree and embed vertices in parent-before-child order; whenever a new child is needed, its already embedded parent has at most $n-2$ other occupied vertices to avoid and at least $n-1$ neighbors. Thus \[R(K_3,T)=2n-1.\tag{1}\]

Every connected graph with $n-1$ edges is a tree, so $1$ gives the baseline $F(n)\ge n-1$ and $f(n)\ge n-1$. These are independently proved elementary benchmarks, not a claim of a new tree Ramsey theorem. The source's cited linear upper bound for $F$ answers its superlinear subquestion negatively; that external upper-bound proof is not reconstructed here.

VERIFICATION AND REMAINING GAP

Determine how many cycles can be added while preserving the exact Ramsey value, and obtain the requested sharp growth estimates for both extremal functions. The tree case alone only gives their linear baseline.

SOURCES

https://www.erdosproblems.com/1182

FINAL

UNRESOLVED. The full source problem remains outside the scope of the proved partial results.

COMPLETION ESTIMATE

$10\%$. This is a conservative subjective estimate toward the whole problem, not a probability that the argument is correct or a claim that a fixed fraction of the problem has been solved.

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