Erdős Problem #1054
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For each integer $n\ge 1$, define $f(n)$ to be the minimal integer $m\ge 1$ such that there exists some $k\ge 1$ with \[ n = d_1(m)+d_2(m)+\cdots + d_k(m), \] where $1=d_1(m)<d_2(m)<\cdots<d_{\tau(m)}(m)=m$ are the positive divisors of $m$ in increasing order. (Thus the right-hand side is the sum of the $k$ smallest divisors of $m$.) The problem text notes that $f(2)$ and $f(5)$ are undefined (no such $m$). Questions:
- Is $f(n)=o(n)$ as $n\to\infty$?
- If not, is $f(n)=o(n)$ for almost all $n$, and is $\limsup_{n\to\infty} f(n)/n=\infty$?
Restatement from Math-6108-A2 r1, with the source manuscript’s qualifications.
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Erdős Problem 1054 --- collection record
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Original attribution:gpt_pro_5.2. Original file: attacks/erdos/gpt_pro_5.2/1054.tex.FORMAL RESTATEMENT.
For each integer $n\ge 1$, define $f(n)$ to be the minimal integer $m\ge 1$ such that there exists some $k\ge 1$ with \[ n = d_1(m)+d_2(m)+\cdots + d_k(m), \] where $1=d_1(m)<d_2(m)<\cdots<d_{\tau(m)}(m)=m$ are the positive divisors of $m$ in increasing order. (Thus the right-hand side is the sum of the $k$ smallest divisors of $m$.) The problem text notes that $f(2)$ and $f(5)$ are undefined (no such $m$). Questions:- Is $f(n)=o(n)$ as $n\to\infty$?
- If not, is $f(n)=o(n)$ for almost all $n$, and is $\limsup_{n\to\infty} f(n)/n=\infty$?
QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK.
I did not use external sources. I treat as given the statement in the problem text that Tao disproved $f(n)=o(n)$ and proved an upper-density bound for $\{n:f(n)\le \delta n\}$.ATTACK PLAN.
Proof-track: derive structural constraints on sums of smallest divisors, and simple families where $f(n)$ is provably small (e.g. Lemma 2 below). Disproof-track: use the stated Tao density bound to formally negate $f(n)=o(n)$; then investigate (computationally) whether $f(n)/n$ appears unbounded. Best path: (a) prove basic lemmas about the smallest divisors of $m$; (b) infer from Tao's result that $f(n)\neq o(n)$; (c) report computed small cases and record ratios.WORK.
Lemma 1 (lower bound on the $k$ smallest divisors). Let $d_1(m)<d_2(m)<\cdots$ be the increasing divisors of $m$. Then for each $i\ge 1$ one has $d_i(m)\ge i$, and consequently \[ d_1(m)+\cdots + d_k(m)\ \ge\ 1+2+\cdots + k = \frac{k(k+1)}{2}. \] In particular, if $n=d_1(m)+\cdots+d_k(m)$ then $k\le \frac{-1+\sqrt{1+8n}}{2}$.Proof. Since $d_i(m)$ is the $i$th smallest positive integer dividing $m$, and there are only $i-1$ positive integers strictly less than $i$, it is impossible to have $d_i(m)\le i-1$. Thus $d_i(m)\ge i$ for each $i$. Summing gives the inequality. Solving $k(k+1)/2\le n$ for $k$ gives the explicit bound. $\square$
Lemma 2 (exact evaluation when $n-1$ is prime). If $n-1$ is prime, then $f(n)=n-1$.
Proof. Let $p=n-1$ be prime. Taking $m=p$, the divisors are $1$ and $p$, so the sum of the two smallest divisors equals $1+p=n$, showing $f(n)\le p$. Conversely, if $m<p$ then every divisor of $m$ is at most $m<p$, so any sum of the $k$ smallest divisors is at most $1+m < 1+p=n$. Therefore no $m<p$ works, so the minimum is $f(n)=p=n-1$. $\square$
Disproof of the strong claim $f(n)=o(n)$ using the stated Tao bound. The problem text states: for every $\delta>0$, the upper density of the set $A_\delta:=\{n: f(n)\le \delta n\}$ is $\ll \delta^2$. Fix $\delta\in(0,1)$ small enough that this upper density is $<1$. If $f(n)=o(n)$ were true, then there would exist $N$ such that for all $n\ge N$ we have $f(n)\le \delta n$, meaning $A_\delta$ is cofinite and hence has upper density $1$, contradiction. Therefore $f(n)\ne o(n)$.
FAST REALITY CHECK (computation). I computed $f(n)$ by scanning $m$ upward and recording all partial sums of the divisor list of $m$. Up to $n\le 1000$ the only undefined values were $n=2$ and $n=5$. Among $n\le 1000$, the largest observed ratio was
max f(n)/n = 3714/631 ≈ 5.885895..., achieved at n=631.For additional context, among $n\le 200$ the largest observed ratio was
max f(n)/n = 965/199 ≈ 4.849246..., achieved at n=199.
VERIFICATION.
Lemma 1: for $m=12$ the divisors are $1,2,3,4,6,12$, so $(d_1,d_2,d_3,d_4)=(1,2,3,4)$ indeed satisfies $d_i=i$ for $i\le 4$ and the partial sums satisfy the lower bound. Lemma 2: for $n=30$ ($n-1=29$ prime), Lemma 2 predicts $f(30)=29$, matching the computation. The density argument only uses the logical implication “$f(n)=o(n)$ $\Rightarrow$ for fixed small $\delta$, all sufficiently large $n$ lie in $A_\delta$”, which is correct by definition of $o(n)$.FINAL: UNRESOLVED.
(i) Strongest proved partial result here. Using the statement in the problem text attributed to Tao, one can rigorously conclude $f(n)\neq o(n)$. Independently, Lemma 1 bounds the witness length by $k\ll \sqrt{n}$, and Lemma 2 gives an infinite family with $f(p+1)=p$ for primes $p$. (ii) First gap. Decide whether $\limsup_{n\to\infty} f(n)/n=\infty$ (or construct an explicit infinite family with $f(n)$ growing faster than $n$). (iii) Top 3 next moves. $1$ Try to force any representation of $n$ to use large $k$ by choosing $n$ that cannot be represented with small $k$ (e.g. not of the form $1+$prime, and excluding feasible patterns for $k=3,4$), and then lower-bound the necessary $m$. $2$ Extend computation to find record values of $f(n)/n$ and inspect the minimizing $m$ (factorization and divisor pattern) to guess a general obstruction. $3$ Attempt to prove a general inequality of the form $f(n)\ge c\,n$ on a set of $n$ of positive lower density, or to show $f(n)\le n^{1+\varepsilon}$ for all large $n$ (either direction would clarify the second question). (iv) What a minimal counterexample would look like. To refute $\limsup f(n)/n=\infty$, one would need a universal constant $C$ with $f(n)\le Cn$ for all large $n$; a minimal counterexample to that would be an $n$ for which every $m\le Cn$ has the property that no initial divisor-sum equals $n$.COMPLETION ESTIMATE
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gpt pro 5.2 attempt on Math-6108
FORMAL RESTATEMENT.
For each integer $n\ge 1$, define $f(n)$ to be the minimal integer $m\ge 1$ such that there exists some $k\ge 1$ with \[ n = d_1(m)+d_2(m)+\cdots + d_k(m), \] where $1=d_1(m)<d_2(m)<\cdots<d_{\tau(m)}(m)=m$ are the positive divisors of $m$ in increasing order. (Thus the right-hand side is the sum of the $k$ smallest divisors of $m$.) The problem text notes that $f(2)$ and $f(5)$ are undefined (no such $m$). Questions:- Is $f(n)=o(n)$ as $n\to\infty$?
- If not, is $f(n)=o(n)$ for almost all $n$, and is $\limsup_{n\to\infty} f(n)/n=\infty$?
QUICK LITERATURE/CONTEXT CHECK.
I did not use external sources. I treat as given the statement in the problem text that Tao disproved $f(n)=o(n)$ and proved an upper-density bound for $\{n:f(n)\le \delta n\}$.ATTACK PLAN.
Proof-track: derive structural constraints on sums of smallest divisors, and simple families where $f(n)$ is provably small (e.g. Lemma 2 below). Disproof-track: use the stated Tao density bound to formally negate $f(n)=o(n)$; then investigate (computationally) whether $f(n)/n$ appears unbounded. Best path: (a) prove basic lemmas about the smallest divisors of $m$; (b) infer from Tao's result that $f(n)\neq o(n)$; (c) report computed small cases and record ratios.WORK.
Lemma 1 (lower bound on the $k$ smallest divisors). Let $d_1(m)<d_2(m)<\cdots$ be the increasing divisors of $m$. Then for each $i\ge 1$ one has $d_i(m)\ge i$, and consequently \[ d_1(m)+\cdots + d_k(m)\ \ge\ 1+2+\cdots + k = \frac{k(k+1)}{2}. \] In particular, if $n=d_1(m)+\cdots+d_k(m)$ then $k\le \frac{-1+\sqrt{1+8n}}{2}$.Proof. Since $d_i(m)$ is the $i$th smallest positive integer dividing $m$, and there are only $i-1$ positive integers strictly less than $i$, it is impossible to have $d_i(m)\le i-1$. Thus $d_i(m)\ge i$ for each $i$. Summing gives the inequality. Solving $k(k+1)/2\le n$ for $k$ gives the explicit bound. $\square$
Lemma 2 (exact evaluation when $n-1$ is prime). If $n-1$ is prime, then $f(n)=n-1$.
Proof. Let $p=n-1$ be prime. Taking $m=p$, the divisors are $1$ and $p$, so the sum of the two smallest divisors equals $1+p=n$, showing $f(n)\le p$. Conversely, if $m<p$ then every divisor of $m$ is at most $m<p$, so any sum of the $k$ smallest divisors is at most $1+m < 1+p=n$. Therefore no $m<p$ works, so the minimum is $f(n)=p=n-1$. $\square$
Disproof of the strong claim $f(n)=o(n)$ using the stated Tao bound. The problem text states: for every $\delta>0$, the upper density of the set $A_\delta:=\{n: f(n)\le \delta n\}$ is $\ll \delta^2$. Fix $\delta\in(0,1)$ small enough that this upper density is $<1$. If $f(n)=o(n)$ were true, then there would exist $N$ such that for all $n\ge N$ we have $f(n)\le \delta n$, meaning $A_\delta$ is cofinite and hence has upper density $1$, contradiction. Therefore $f(n)\ne o(n)$.
FAST REALITY CHECK (computation). I computed $f(n)$ by scanning $m$ upward and recording all partial sums of the divisor list of $m$. Up to $n\le 1000$ the only undefined values were $n=2$ and $n=5$. Among $n\le 1000$, the largest observed ratio was
max f(n)/n = 3714/631 ≈ 5.885895..., achieved at n=631.For additional context, among $n\le 200$ the largest observed ratio was
max f(n)/n = 965/199 ≈ 4.849246..., achieved at n=199.