Cycle Limits for Words in Random Permutations
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For each integer $n\geq 1$, let $S_n$ be the symmetric group on $\{1,\ldots,n\}$, and let $\sigma_n,\tau_n$ be independent random permutations, each uniformly distributed on $S_n$. Set \[ \pi_n=\sigma_n\tau_n\sigma_n^2\tau_n^2. \] For $\rho\in S_n$, let $L_1(\rho)$ be the length of its cycle containing $1$. Let $M_k(\rho)$ be its $k$-th largest cycle length, counting multiplicities and setting $M_k(\rho)=0$ when $\rho$ has fewer than $k$ cycles.The supplied record asks the following two conjectures: \[ \frac{L_1(\pi_n)}{n}\xrightarrow[n\to\infty]{\mathrm d}\operatorname{Unif}[0,1], \qquad \left(\frac{M_k(\pi_n)}{n}\right)_{k\geq1} \xrightarrow[n\to\infty]{\mathrm d}\operatorname{PD}(1). \] Here $\operatorname{PD}(1)$ denotes the law of the decreasing rearrangement of \[ P_j=V_j\prod_{i<j}(1-V_i),\qquad j\geq1, \] where the $V_j$ are independent and uniformly distributed on $[0,1]$. A precise conventional formulation of the second convergence uses the space \[ \mathcal S^{\downarrow} =\left\{(x_k)_{k\geq1}\in\ell^1: x_1\geq x_2\geq\cdots\geq0,\quad \sum_{k\geq1}x_k=1\right\} \] with the $\ell^1$ metric. The supplied source does not specify a topology; this explicit choice requires review against the intended formulation.
For the generalization, let $w$ be a fixed nonempty finite word in the two formal letters $a,b$, independent of $n$. The source calls $w$ primitive when there do not exist a nonempty shorter word $v$ and an integer $r\geq2$ such that $w=v^r$, where powers mean concatenation. This is the source's word-combinatorial definition, not the definition of a primitive element of a free group. Evaluate $w$ at $a=\sigma_n$, $b=\tau_n$ to obtain $\pi_{n,w}=w(\sigma_n,\tau_n)$. The generalized cycle conjectures ask whether, for every such primitive word $w$, \[ \frac{L_1(\pi_{n,w})}{n}\xrightarrow[n\to\infty]{\mathrm d}\operatorname{Unif}[0,1], \qquad \left(\frac{M_k(\pi_{n,w})}{n}\right)_{k\geq1} \xrightarrow[n\to\infty]{\mathrm d}\operatorname{PD}(1). \] The original excerpt mentions allowing inverses as a possible extension but explicitly does not discuss that extension; words containing inverses are therefore outside this stated domain.
For probability measures $\mu,\nu$ on $S_n$, define \[ d_{\mathrm{TV}}(\mu,\nu)=\frac12\sum_{\rho\in S_n}|\mu(\{\rho\})-\nu(\{\rho\})|. \] A stronger question explicitly posed in the original excerpt for the displayed permutation is whether \[ d_{\mathrm{TV}}\left(\mathcal L(\pi_n),\operatorname{Unif}(S_n)\right)\longrightarrow0. \] The cleaned statement additionally asks about this convergence for general primitive words, namely whether the same limit holds with $\pi_n$ replaced by $\pi_{n,w}$. Its scope is unresolved: the original excerpt explicitly generalizes the two cycle conjectures, without explicitly generalizing the total-variation conjecture. The latter generalized question is retained as a question from the registry, not asserted as a valid conjecture for every primitive word.
As supplied background, if $C_k(\rho)$ is the number of $k$-cycles of $\rho$, the excerpt attributes to Kammoun and Maida the assertion that, for every fixed positive integer $m$ and every fixed primitive word in the stated sense, \[ \left(C_1(\pi_{n,w}),\ldots,C_m(\pi_{n,w})\right) \xrightarrow[n\to\infty]{\mathrm d}(Z_1,\ldots,Z_m), \qquad Z_k\sim\operatorname{Poisson}(1/k), \] with the $Z_k$ independent. This is a supplied attribution, not an independently verified theorem statement. The excerpt also states that the two cycle limits hold for uniform random permutations and that their cycle containing $1$ has length uniform on $\{1,\ldots,n\}$.
Unresolved additional source material. The original excerpt abruptly turns to random functions and undefined $w$-trees. It requests an exact counting formula, recurrence, or functional equation for $w$-trees of size $n$, including the case $W=AB$. It also asserts that $w$ and $w^d$, for $d>0$, have the same cyclic points and hence the same number of associated trees, and calls a primitive-word hypothesis necessary and harmless in an unspecified preceding statement. Finally, it asks when random functions associated with distinct words $W,W'$ have total-variation distance tending to $0$, to $1$, or to neither, and mentions partial answers in reference $[3]$. The definitions, random-function model, preceding statement, and identity of reference $[3]$ are absent. These passages cannot be formulated precisely from the supplied record and are not identified with the permutation questions above.
Short English statement
For two independent uniform permutations of $n$ elements, ask whether the word $\sigma\tau\sigma^2\tau^2$ has the same limiting cycle containing $1$ and ranked cycle lengths as a uniform permutation. The source extends these cycle questions to every fixed word that is not a concatenation power and poses a stronger total-variation question. The scope of that stronger generalization and the appended, undefined random-function questions require review.Sources
- Supplied local UnsolvedMath registry record, permanent ID $30006530$, title "Cycle Limits for Words in Random Permutations," source problem code
catalogue entry, in the Oberwolfach Reports Open Problems collection. The record supplies proposed year $2026$ but names no proposer. - Supplied report citation: Enumerative Combinatorics (2026), Oberwolfach Reports, DOI 10.4171/owr/2026/2, pp. 81--156. https://doi.org/10.4171/owr/2026/2. No specific page or named contributor for this problem is supplied.
- Supplied literature source: Kammoun--Maida, Random Structures and Algorithms. https://doi.org/10.1002/rsa.21203. The record supplies no article title or precise theorem locator.
- Supplied literature source: Kammoun--Maida, Electronic Communications in Probability. https://doi.org/10.1214/20-ECP334. The record supplies no article title or precise theorem locator.
- Supplied literature source: Oberwolfach Report 2026/2. https://doi.org/10.4171/owr/2026/2.
- Literature assessment dated exactly
2026-08-22: the supplied curation labels the problem "partially solved," attributes universal short-cycle Poisson limits to primary work and several low-occurrence cases to the report, and says that the uniform and Poisson--Dirichlet limits for all primitive words remain unproved. This is supplied dated curation, not an independently verified literature assessment. The record itself requests independent verification of time-sensitive status and cited claims. - The original excerpt cites Kammoun and Maida as reference $[7]$, without an explicit mapping to the two supplied articles. Its appended random-function passage cites reference $[3]$, whose bibliographic identity is not supplied.
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