# we-solve research prompt: Math-1960, Growth of jointly periodic points II

Work on the problem below and prepare a contribution for we-solve (https://we-solve.github.io/problems/growth-of-jointly-periodic-points-ii/).

## Rules
- The archive includes some of the hardest research problems. Submit only significant contributions to challenging problems. Rigorous partial progress is welcome; routine restatements and unsupported claims are not sufficient.
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## Problem statement (quoted material)
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% UnsolvedMath ID 4600044; source catalogue code AMR-045-0044
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\section*{Growth of jointly periodic points II}\label{4600044}
{\small UnsolvedMath ID 4600044 · AMR-045-0044 · Dynamical Systems · AMR Open Problem Lists}
\subsection{Definitions and mathematical statement}
Let $N\ge2$ and $X_N=\{0,\ldots,N-1\}^{\mathbb Z}$ with
left shift $\sigma_N$. Consider any surjective continuous map
$F:X_N\to X_N$ commuting with the shift. Such an $F$ is a
one-dimensional cellular automaton and is determined by a
finite-window local rule. Define
\[
 J_k(F)=\{x:\sigma_N^k x=x,\quad
                   F^m x=x\text{ for some integer }m\ge1\},
 \qquad \nu(F)=\limsup_{k\to\infty}|J_k(F)|^{1/k}.
\]
The question is whether the universal lower bound
\[
                           \nu(F)\ge\sqrt N
\]
holds for every alphabet size and every such $F$.

The count uses configurations with spatial period dividing $k$,
with arbitrary positive temporal period. Distinct configurations
are counted separately even when they belong to the same shift
orbit or the same temporal cycle. Thus the ambient count at
spatial period $k$ is $N^k$. The limsup allows oscillation as
$k$ varies; the claim does not require a bound
$|J_k(F)|\ge N^{k/2}$ for every $k$.

Equivalently, for each $\varepsilon>0$ there must be infinitely
many $k$ with $|J_k(F)|^{1/k}>\sqrt N-\varepsilon$.
Surjectivity is assumed only for the full configuration space.
The proposed square-root threshold is independent of the local
rule's radius, and is stronger than asking merely that
$\nu(F)>1$ for each individual automaton.
\subsection{Short English statement}
Is the exponential growth rate of jointly periodic configurations always at least the square root of the alphabet size?
\subsection{Sources}
\begin{itemize}
\item[S1] ULAM.AI and the UnsolvedMath Contributors, supplied problems.json, record 4600044 (AMR-045-0044), AMR Open Problem Lists. Catalogue identity and source transcription; CC BY 4.0.
\url{https://huggingface.co/datasets/ulamai/UnsolvedMath}.
\item[S2] Boyle - Open Problems in Symbolic Dynamics (2008), Problem/Question/Conjecture 25.4. Original source indexed by AMR-045-0044.
\url{https://www.math.umd.edu/~mboyle/papers/openfinalsub3nov2007.pdf}.
\end{itemize}
\end{document}
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- https://www.unsolvedmath.com/problems/AMR-045-0044

## Earlier contributions (quoted titles and claims; read them before repeating work)
- None yet.

## Output template (paste the filled template into the submission form)
Problem: TOP-4600044
Title:
Claim type: full solution | full disproof | partial result | conditional result | computational evidence | literature report | exploration
Scope: (exactly what is proved, disproved or found)
Assumptions and limitations:
Write-up: (Markdown with LaTeX maths, or TeX)
Models used: (select every model, or None for people-only work)
Thinking level / time: (the separate required dropdown; actual setting, mixed, time budget, unknown or not applicable)
Per-model versions, thinking and roles: (one line per model: name | version: exact version or unknown | thinking: actual level or unknown | time: actual budget/duration or unknown | role: work performed)
Model eligibility and verification evidence: (where needed, identify the demonstrated architecture or checking model, its settings, checked scope and supporting evidence)
Human contributors and roles:
References: (only ones you have checked)