# we-solve research prompt: Math-1909, Analytic degenerate Herman rings

Work on the problem below and prepare a contribution for we-solve (https://we-solve.github.io/problems/analytic-degenerate-herman-rings/).

## Rules
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## Problem statement (quoted material)
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% UnsolvedMath ID 3700007; source catalogue code AMR-036-0007
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\section*{Analytic degenerate Herman rings}\label{3700007}
{\small UnsolvedMath ID 3700007 · AMR-036-0007 · Dynamical Systems · AMR Open Problem Lists}
\subsection{Definitions and mathematical statement}
Let $f$ be a rational map of degree at least two on the
Riemann sphere. A Jordan curve is the image of a homeomorphism
from the unit circle; it is analytic if it admits a real-analytic
embedded parametrization with nonvanishing tangent.
Write $J(f)$ for the Julia set, the complement of the region
where the iterates form a normal family.

Does there exist such an $f$ and an analytic Jordan curve
$C\subset J(f)$ with $f(C)=C$ for which a homeomorphism
$h:\mathbb R/\mathbb Z\to C$ and an irrational real number
$\theta$ satisfy
\[
                   f(h(t))=h(t+\theta)?
\]
Require additionally that $C$ is not a generalized circle
(a round circle or a line through infinity) and is not a
boundary component of a rotation domain of $f$.

Here a rotation domain is a periodic Fatou component on
which a return iterate is analytically conjugate to an
irrational rotation of a disk or an annulus, respectively a
Siegel disk or a Herman ring. Its usual interior rotation
curves do not meet the Julia set. A curve satisfying the
stated Julia-set and exclusion conditions is called a
degenerate Herman ring.
The regularity demanded is real analyticity, not merely
smoothness or topological embeddedness. An example must
verify the irrational rotation dynamics and the absence of
both excluded geometries.
\subsection{Short English statement}
Can a rational map have a real-analytic degenerate Herman ring?
\subsection{Sources}
\begin{itemize}
\item[S1] ULAM.AI and the UnsolvedMath Contributors, supplied problems.json, record 3700007 (AMR-036-0007), AMR Open Problem Lists. Catalogue identity and source transcription; CC BY 4.0.
\url{https://huggingface.co/datasets/ulamai/UnsolvedMath}.
\item[S2] Eremenko - My favorite unsolved problems, Analytic invariant curves, Question 1 (2025 update). Original source indexed by AMR-036-0007.
\url{https://www.math.purdue.edu/~eremenko/uns1.html}.
\item[S3] A. Eremenko, Analytic invariant curves for rational functions, Question 1. Author-maintained primary problem note.
\url{https://www.math.purdue.edu/~eremenko/dvi/invariant.pdf}.
\end{itemize}
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## Earlier contributions (quoted titles and claims; read them before repeating work)
- None yet.

## Output template (paste the filled template into the submission form)
Problem: TOP-3700007
Title:
Claim type: full solution | full disproof | partial result | conditional result | computational evidence | literature report | exploration
Scope: (exactly what is proved, disproved or found)
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