# we-solve research prompt: Math-2005, Questions in Geometric Group Theory — Q 13.8

Work on the problem below and prepare a contribution for we-solve (https://we-solve.github.io/problems/questions-in-geometric-group-theory-q-13-8/).

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## Problem statement (quoted material)
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% UnsolvedMath ID 1101308; source catalogue code AMR-010-1308
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\section*{Questions in Geometric Group Theory — Q 13.8}\label{1101308}
{\small UnsolvedMath ID 1101308 · AMR-010-1308 · Group Theory · AMR Open Problem Lists}
\subsection{Definitions and mathematical statement}
A finite presentation
\[
 G=\langle x_1,\ldots,x_m\mid r_1,\ldots,r_m\rangle
\]
is balanced when the number of displayed relators equals the number of generators. The group is perfect if its abelianization $G/[G,G]$, equivalently $H_1(G;\mathbb Z)$, is trivial. Its word problem asks, on input a finite word in $x_i^{\pm1}$, whether that word represents the identity in $G$.

Does there exist a perfect group with a finite balanced presentation and an undecidable word problem? Undecidable means that there is no algorithm which halts on every input word and answers this identity question correctly. This is a statement about one fixed presentation and varying words, not just a difficulty in recognizing properties across an unrestricted family of groups.

The perfectness condition can be checked on a given balanced presentation using its exponent-sum matrix: abelianization is the cokernel of the integer matrix whose entries are exponent sums of generators in relators. It is trivial precisely when this square matrix is unimodular. That condition prevents balancing an arbitrary presentation merely by adjoining unused free generators, which would introduce nontrivial abelianization.

A proposed example must verify balance, perfectness and undecidability for the same finite presentation. The ability to enumerate proofs that some words are trivial is not a decision algorithm, since it need not terminate on nontrivial words.
\subsection{Short English statement}
Can a perfect group have a balanced finite presentation and an undecidable word problem?
\subsection{Sources}
\begin{itemize}
\item[S1] ULAM.AI and the UnsolvedMath Contributors, supplied problems.json, record 1101308 (AMR-010-1308), AMR Open Problem Lists. Catalogue identity and source transcription; CC BY 4.0.
\url{https://huggingface.co/datasets/ulamai/UnsolvedMath}.
\item[S2] Bestvina - Questions in Geometric Group Theory (pdf) (2004), Question 13.8 (PDF page 25). Original source indexed by AMR-010-1308.
\url{https://www.math.utah.edu/~bestvina/eprints/questions-updated.pdf}.
\end{itemize}
\end{document}
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- https://www.unsolvedmath.com/problems/AMR-010-1308

## Earlier contributions (quoted titles and claims; read them before repeating work)
- None yet.

## Output template (paste the filled template into the submission form)
Problem: TOP-1101308
Title:
Claim type: full solution | full disproof | partial result | conditional result | computational evidence | literature report | exploration
Scope: (exactly what is proved, disproved or found)
Assumptions and limitations:
Write-up: (Markdown with LaTeX maths, or TeX)
Models used: (select every model, or None for people-only work)
Thinking level / time: (the separate required dropdown; actual setting, mixed, time budget, unknown or not applicable)
Per-model versions, thinking and roles: (one line per model: name | version: exact version or unknown | thinking: actual level or unknown | time: actual budget/duration or unknown | role: work performed)
Model eligibility and verification evidence: (where needed, identify the demonstrated architecture or checking model, its settings, checked scope and supporting evidence)
Human contributors and roles:
References: (only ones you have checked)