# we-solve research prompt: Math-6072, Erdős Problem #1018

Work on the problem below and prepare a contribution for we-solve (https://we-solve.github.io/problems/erdos-problem-1018/).

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## Problem statement (quoted material)
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\paragraph{Statement and result.}
For every fixed \(\epsilon>0\), all sufficiently large graphs with \(n\) vertices and at least \(n^{1+\epsilon}\) edges contain a nonplanar subgraph on at most \(C_\epsilon\) vertices. We derive this from Janzer's subdivision theorem, obtaining a possible bound
\[
 C_\epsilon\leq 20/\epsilon+15\qquad(0<\epsilon<1).
\]
We also give a probabilistic construction proving that no absolute bound on \(C_\epsilon\) can work as \(\epsilon\) decreases to zero. The main subdivision theorem is an explicit external dependency.

\paragraph{The external input and the parameter choice.}
For a fixed graph \(F\) and a fixed even integer \(k\geq2\), let \(F^{k-1}\) mean the graph formed by replacing every edge of \(F\) by a path of exactly \(k\) edges, with mutually disjoint internal vertices. Janzer's Theorem 1.6 states
\[
 \operatorname{ex}(n,F^{k-1})=O_{F,k}(n^{1+1/k}).
\tag{1}
\]
The source permits multigraphs \(F\); the simple graph \(F=K_5\) suffices. Equation (1), proved by the source's path-counting argument, is used as a theorem, not reproved here.

Given \(0<\epsilon<1\), take \(k=2\lceil1/\epsilon\rceil\). Then \(1/k\leq\epsilon/2<\epsilon\), and (1) gives a constant \(D_k\) such that
\[
 \operatorname{ex}(n,K_5^{k-1})\leq D_k n^{1+1/k}
\]
for all sufficiently large \(n\). Once \(n^{\epsilon-1/k}>D_k\), the edge count \(n^{1+\epsilon}\) exceeds this bound. Thus the host contains \(K_5^{k-1}\), whose vertex count is
\[
 5+10(k-1)=10k-5\leq20/\epsilon+15.
\]
All constants are fixed before letting \(n\) grow; the unknown size of \(D_k\) affects the threshold on \(n\), not the displayed bound on the subgraph's order.

\paragraph{Why this subgraph is nonplanar.}
The graph \(K_5\) is nonplanar because a simple planar graph on five vertices has at most \(3\cdot5-6=9\) edges, whereas \(K_5\) has ten. Subdividing its edges cannot make it planar: from a hypothetical plane drawing of the subdivision, concatenate the arcs along each replacement path and suppress its internal degree-two vertices. Internally disjoint paths then give a plane drawing of \(K_5\), a contradiction. This verifies precisely the nonplanarity required by the question.

When \(\epsilon\geq1\), a simple graph cannot have \(n^{1+\epsilon}\) edges for large \(n\), so the implication is vacuous.

\paragraph{The bound must depend on \(\epsilon\).}
Fix any integer \(L\geq3\), and take \(0<\epsilon<1/(2L)\). In the random graph \(G(n,p)\), set \(p=n^{-1+2\epsilon}\). The expected number of edges is \((1/2+o(1))n^{1+2\epsilon}\), and its variance is at most its expectation. Chebyshev's inequality therefore implies that, with probability tending to one,
\[
 e(G)\geq\tfrac14n^{1+2\epsilon}.
\]
The expected number \(Z\) of cycles of lengths \(3,\ldots,L\) is at most
\[
 \sum_{j=3}^{L}\frac{(np)^j}{2j}
 =O_L(n^{2\epsilon L})=o(n^{1+2\epsilon}).
\]
Markov's inequality gives \(Z\leq\tfrac18n^{1+2\epsilon}\) with probability tending to one. Choose an outcome satisfying both bounds and remove one edge from each short cycle. At least \(\tfrac18n^{1+2\epsilon}>n^{1+\epsilon}\) edges remain for large \(n\), while the girth exceeds \(L\). Every subgraph on at most \(L\) vertices is then a forest and is planar. Thus, for every fixed \(L\), all sufficiently small positive \(\epsilon\) require \(C_\epsilon>L\).

\paragraph{Attribution and assessment.}
Kostochka and Pyber originally answered the problem. The deduction above uses O. Janzer, \emph{The extremal number of longer subdivisions}, Theorem 1.6, \url{https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.08001}; the original result is also described in its introduction. See \url{https://www.erdosproblems.com/1018}, checked 24 September 2026. This is a complete deduction relative to the explicitly stated subdivision theorem, supplemented by the supplied dependence obstruction. No novelty or local formal verification is claimed.

\paragraph{Completion estimate.}
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- https://www.erdosproblems.com/1018

## Earlier contributions (quoted titles and claims; read them before repeating work)
- Math-6072-A1 [No claim recorded] GPT 6 Astra Ultra attempt on Math-6072 (https://we-solve.github.io/contributions/erdos-problem-1018/attempt-1/r1/)

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Problem: ERDOS-1018
Title:
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